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Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 06:00PM

Floppybits wrote: »

That's an awful cabinet. Some very weak people in there. Surprised to see McEntee getting justice, glad to see the back of Flanagan but I would think justice would need a more senior politicians in there. Donnelly in health is not going to do much to.improve the health services. I'd say the knives will out in FF.

Ah Helen McEntee was very capable in her previous role and yes the dept of justice is a big jump but I can see her doing well.

Well apparently there are a lot of unhappy FF TDs in the convention centre and from seeing dara Callery he's one of them. Deputy leader of FF used to be a nailed on government post but not this time.

Loafing Oaf · 27-06-2020 06:01PM

jos28 wrote: »

What did Stephen Donnelly do to warrant a cabinet position

Give FF a bit of D4 appeal in the absence of Jim O'Callaghan:P

nc6000 · 27-06-2020 06:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

I'd say Simon Harris is delighted to be able to hide away in the new Department of Higher Education and Science.

What would he be hiding from?

Fann Linn · 27-06-2020 06:01PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

I'd say Simon Harris is delighted to be able to hide away in the new Department of Higher Education and Science.

I hope he does a better job than he did in health.

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

I'd say Simon Harris is delighted to be able to hide away in the new Department of Higher Education and Science.

Money for jam sure. Leave the phone off the hook and tip on home early each day. Sure who would even notice

TheRiverman · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

Great to see the awful trio of Bruton,Flanagan and McHugh gone.

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

Catherine Martin has some broad department. Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport, Media and Tourism. Ridiculously large portfolio.

jos28 · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Give FF a bit of D4 appeal in the absence of Jim O'Callaghan:P

Maybe, just can't see the appeal myself

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Are we gonna have 5 years of you policing threads getting huffy?

Im not policing anything, just an observation that I have yet to see a single positive comment......

At this stage a positive comment would have a bigger affect than the constant stream of negativity.

Continue on for the next 5 years moaning.....no skin off my nose but it must be awful boring sitting on a website 24 x 7 just to moan

KyussB · 27-06-2020 06:02PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Indeed I have. In fact, I quoted him earlier today on this very thread. The sensible thing to do is to borrow enough money to keep the ship afloat and no more. The idea that we borrow tens of billions just because, you know, houses n stuff is, to say the least very selfish. Ever hear of a deficit? Of a national debt? Of future generations? There's not many in the government, past or present, who agree with you.

That's not what Keyne's advocated - he advocated a Keynesian Stimulus through borrowing, to bring the economy back to Full Employment.

Deficits are what governments worldwide do, 90+% of the time...they are perfectly normal and a good thing...

What on earth is selfish about making sure there are enough houses, so that the average person can actually afford to live in this country? Jesus, you sound like someone who's already made it financially - and wants to pull the ladder up on upcoming generations, ruin loads of peoples lives, just to feel virtuous on climate issues...(while pretending to care about future generations, due to the effects of the climate)

You do realize the national debt is not a problem, right? It's leaving huge numbers of people unemployed for a decade that costs the country, and which saddles future generations with costs - right? Countries run up Public Debt all over the world, all the time, perfectly sustainably - it's a perfectly normal part of government finances...

Well that's funny, the Green's were all for Keynesian Stimulus, until it came time to get into government...

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 06:03PM

nc6000 wrote: »

What would he be hiding from?

The 18 other Corona viruses

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 06:03PM

nc6000 wrote: »

What would he be hiding from?

The non stop spotlight of Health.

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 06:04PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

I hope he does a better job than he did in health.

It a poison chalice to be honest, name a "good" Minister for health in the last 20 years?

Its a no win role. At this moment Harris is probably coming out better than most of his predecessors

Mantis Toboggan · 27-06-2020 06:04PM

Nice to see Harris's nightmare in health is over.

jos28 · 27-06-2020 06:04PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Catherine Martin has some broad department. Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport, Media and Tourism. Ridiculously large portfolio.

That's a ridiculous portfolio, pity the people answering the phones in that Department

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 06:04PM

nc6000 wrote: »

I wouldn't say the Fianna Fail education spokesperson for the last few years Thomas Byrne is happy.

Well it's not the first time Kerry have beaten Meath. But yeah I mean he's probably not happy given his time as spokesperson on education. If you don't see someone as potentially being a minister of a certain dept then don't make them a spokesperson in opposition.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 06:04PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Are we gonna have 5 years of you policing threads getting huffy?

Be worse than that. This government isn't lasting 5 years.

And FF will be out on their ear then...

JohnnyFlash · 27-06-2020 06:05PM

Heather Humphreys will be slightly disappointed. A really excellent Minister of Business, Enterprise and Innovation. She was rumoured to be getting the agriculture portfolio, but instead ends up as the Minister for Social Protection and Rural Affairs. .

Floppybits · 27-06-2020 06:05PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ah Helen McEntee was very capable in her previous role and yes the dept of justice is a big jump but I can see her doing well.

Well apparently there are a lot of unhappy FF TDs in the convention centre and from seeing dara Callery he's one of them. Deputy leader of FF used to be a nailed on government post but not this time.

All she did in her previous role was stand behind either coveney on varadkar, she never said anything. Has she even spoke in the dail? FF TD's must be fuming.

Loafing Oaf · 27-06-2020 06:05PM

jos28 wrote: »

That's a ridiculous portfolio, pity the people answering the phones in that Department

Let's craft an acronym for them: CAGASMET?

nc6000 · 27-06-2020 06:06PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Heather Humphreys will be slightly disappointed. A really excellent Minister of Business, Enterprise and Innovation. She was rumoured to be getting the agriculture portfolio, but instead ends up as the Minister for Social Protection and Rural Affairs. .

I would have thought Rural Affairs was a better fit for Agriculture than Social Protection.

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 06:06PM

Floppybits wrote: »

All she did in her previous role was stand behind either coveney on varadkar, she never said anything. Has she even spoke in the dail? FF TD's must be fuming.

Yes she did speak.

is_that_so · 27-06-2020 06:06PM

jos28 wrote: »

That's a ridiculous portfolio, pity the people answering the phones in that Department

C.A.G.S.M.T!

LawBoy2018 · 27-06-2020 06:07PM

Timmy Dooley is being nominated by MM!! Nooooooooooo

suicide_circus · 27-06-2020 06:07PM

jos28 wrote: »

What did Stephen Donnelly do to warrant a cabinet position

Well he's got the poisoned chalice!

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 06:07PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Catherine Martin has some broad department. Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport, Media and Tourism. Ridiculously large portfolio.

I don't think it's that broad really, just a long name.

You could lump culture, art and media into "culture" for a start.

I'm just glad sport and tourism are out of transport now.

Mantis Toboggan · 27-06-2020 06:08PM

The new cabinet wouldn't exactly strike confidence, more like incompetence.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 06:08PM

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Timmy Dooley is being nominated by MM!! Nooooooooooo

You think they're finally out and they get pulled back in...

Snow Garden · 27-06-2020 06:08PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

I hope he does a better job than he did in health.

If you asked anyone in the HSE or on the frontline in January, they would say he was the worst health minister in decades. He was hated. Not sure if their opinion would have changed much since. He lost the dressing room in the dept of Health long ago. He somehow managed to hire even more management into an already bloated managemany layer and did not get rid of the useless ones.

jos28 · 27-06-2020 06:08PM

nc6000 wrote: »

I would have thought Rural Affairs was a better fit for Agriculture than Social Protection.

Absolutely, Social Protection should be a standalone Department considering what's involved. Ridiculous to stick Rural Affairs in there.

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