Madeleine McCann

Banana Republic. wrote: »

So what happened to Madeline in your opinion? Interested in your theory.

I believe I've been quite clear on it, but however, I believe she was abducted. There are numerous stories of break-ins in the area (attempted robbery just the week before in the apartment directly above apartment 3a, for example), of intruders in kids apartments, an attack on child in the same area two years before, scumbags like Brueckner all over the place. It's very possible he or someone else had inside information from a staff member and knew the apartment would be vacant for extended periods. Experienced burglar, No CCTV, unlocked apartment, easy pickings. In and out in less than 5 minutes.

I do not believe the parents could have done it in the timeline, as I've previously posted. I also don't buy any of the reasons put forward as to why they'd do it, anyway. It would be next to impossible logistically, so that only leaves abduction or the possibility she wandered off, however, I tend to discount that for the simple reason I find it difficult to believe she would not only open the heavy patio door, but then close it again behind her on her way out, especially if she was still half asleep and upset. Now, it's possible, but unlikely, imo.

I try to look at the facts and go from there. I believe facts are all you should go on when assessing cases like this, not wild supposition and outlandish conspiracy theories. Logic should be used , not fantasy, imo.

dark crystal wrote: »

I believe I've been quite clear on it, but however, I believe she was abducted. There are numerous stories of break-ins in the area (attempted robbery just the week before in the apartment directly above apartment 3a, for example), of intruders in kids apartments, an attack on child in the same area two years before, scumbags like Brueckner all over the place. It's very possible he or someone else had inside information from a staff member and knew the apartment would be vacant for extended periods. Experienced burglar, No CCTV, unlocked apartment, easy pickings. In and out in less than 5 minutes.

I do not believe the parents could have done it in the timeline, as I've previously posted. I also don't buy any of the reasons put forward as to why they'd do it, anyway. It would be next to impossible logistically, so that only leaves abduction or the possibility she wandered off, however, I tend to discount that for the simple reason I find it difficult to believe she would not only open the heavy patio door, but then close it again behind her on her way out, especially if she was still half asleep and upset. Now, it's possible, but unlikely, imo.

I try to look at the facts and go from there. I believe facts are all you should go on when assessing cases like this, not wild supposition and outlandish conspiracy theories. Logic should be used , not fantasy, imo.

I also believe the restaurant workers are involved in some way with the information there for the public to see and with the amount of sickos about whose to say some of the staff aren’t those sickos in a position to take advantage of tourist who have their apt empty and to work with others to rob whatever they can. If Christian B done it I’d be very interested to know who gave him the “Horrible Job” to do that he spoke about. She may well be still alive somewhere not even knowing she’s Madeline.

buttercups88 wrote: »

How do you suppose they disposed of body while having dinner as normal with friends.

Normal for who? Gerry was flirting with the yoga instructor with the big boobs. Kate was missing to the point of not really being noticed by anybody. The parents claimed line of slignt to the apartment which was a lie. Nobody was checking the kids per the restaurant staff. Gerry castigated Jane for contradicting his reenactment account of where they were standing. They literally hadn't gotten 1 hour into their version of the truth and there was already an obvious string of lies.

Nobody claims to know what happened rather just pointing out the obvious deception.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Fact no. 1 The parents left their three babies, some in nappies I reckon, to sleep without any supervision.

Fact no 2. Parents thought this was totally acceptable.

Fact no 3, They are neglectful. End of story.

Neglectful, yes, but not monstrously neglectful, or neglectful in a way grossly out of the ordinary. The other parents in the Tapas 7 were doing the same thing of leaving their children unattended back at the apartment while they were out for a meal across the pool while heading back for regular checks, and according to this thread and certain posters within it, that's bad enough, before you even get to the unlocked patio door. This leads me to suspect that it was probably a common thing done by many British holiday makers at that resort and other similar resorts where a place to eat and drink was located so nearby, not that anyone would admit to doing it now, of course.

dark crystal wrote: »

Bit rich to be castigating others for lying with a post that full of fiction.

About what we've come to my expect from your posts though. Still, it's good to know they still had time to dispose of their daughter's body amidst all the yoga instructor lustiness and whatnot...

You'd come across a lot better if you tried actually contradicting the points rather than acting like a geratric scolding a young child. Your obsessed with the disposal of the body to the point of ignoring everything else. It's like if you could fathom the disposal of the body it would allow you correctly see the rest of the lies the tapas 7 told. Until then you'll pretend to yourself the Tapas 7 lies can be allowed.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Great stuff, 3 police forces would be happy if you could provide proof, because they have ( UK/Portugal) been unable to find any proof of anything other than she disappeared 13 years ago.

Me provide proof? Proof of what?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

To summarise your post , you claimed the parents are not responsible. What proof have you?

Because they didn’t do it..

Are you for real. Prove someone that didn’t do something didn’t do something?

You do realize that they are not on trial for this, or convicted for this..

Proving a negative you want?

OwlsZat wrote: »

Glad you only care about the facts. The fact is the tapas 7 lied throughout. Now that you have established this fact. Have you ever asked yourself why?

Do you think if an infant in your care was to go missing you would lie to the authorities?

Maybe they lied because they were so negligent she was taken from an open room or maybe they lied because she accidentally died. That's the only fact not yet established.

Ok, let's get this out of the way, what specifically did they lie about that suggests they were covering up a serious crime one or more of their party committed?

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

None of your comment makes any sort of sense. You seem confident of your claim that the parents are blameless but can offer no proof to back up your claim.
Your claim is nothing more than your opinion which you are entitled to but no different than any other poster here.

There is zero evidence that the parents were in anyway involved in her disappearance.

It is not even probable or credible that they would or could. They had did not have the means, the motive or the opportunity to murder their own 3 year old daughter and dispose of her remains while at the same time "boozing" with their mates.

This thread is so groundhog day, it's so boring. Can we not all just agree that the McCanns didn't "make a mistake"? This is the term that seems to insense the McCann hating side of the thread. They didn't make a mistake - they knowingly left their kids alone. I know this. I still feel empathy for them after their daughter was taken. I am still angry at them for leaving her alone in her time of need, I am still baffled by such a decision. I still think that the monster who is responsible for her disappearance should have his balls torn off by Rottweilers and every hair on his body plucked out one by one forever more. Can we just leave it and move on, 150 pages of arguing later, can we please? The authorities didn't see fit to charge them with negligence so just get over it and for God's sake move on.