Where would you go next...

Wailin · 15-06-2020 08:43PM

No offers or anything yet, just being optimistic but best method to receive payment in a private sale? Bank draft and wait for it to clear?

digiman · 15-06-2020 10:47PM

Wailin wrote: »

No offers or anything yet, just being optimistic but best method to receive payment in a private sale? Bank draft and wait for it to clear?

I sold my last car privately, was able to find a very reasonable buyer and we agreed that they would transfer the amount to my bank account, I would then pay off the finance and we would transfer the car as soon as the money hit my account.

The person had called to my house, I had met his family (wife and kid) and there was a lot of trust there obviously that we were both genuine.

I think bank transfer is the safest way.

carsfan2 · 15-06-2020 10:59PM

The next generation M5 is going to be electric apparently.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/bmw/m5/

Leonard Hofstadter · 16-06-2020 12:20AM

carsfan2 wrote: »

The next generation M5 is going to be electric apparently.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/spy-shots/bmw/m5/

There will still be a V8 for those who haven't completely lost their minds, though.

I'm sorry but I just can't get excited by cars like this. Who needs 1006 bhp?

16-06-2020 08:40AM

If a genuine quote it sounds like they are not overly awed themselves ......... ..Comments a member of the M Division R&D team: “The Bavarian Motor Works are latecomers to the EV scene, and the same applies unfortunately to autonomous driving. Mid-term, our only stable competitive advantage is ride, handling and roadholding. But the biggest challenge by far is cost, which is why the board has buried the projected halo car.”

Marcusm · 16-06-2020 03:04PM

supue wrote: »

I think the 740e has more bhp versus the 530e - low 300+ bhp for the 740 versus ~250bhp for the 530e. 2 litre doesn't seem right for such a big car, but the boost from the hybrid helps.

Still 100kgs lighter than the X5 40e!

hooch-85 · 16-06-2020 03:14PM

My cousin had a 740e and he recently traded it for the RR Vogue P400e Hybrid. It only has a 2.0 engine as well but I've been in it and its very impressive, the hybrid boost makes a massive difference.

Wailin · 16-06-2020 05:55PM

Would I be right in saying that due to nox charges the cost of importing a 535d has jumped from 6k to over 12k? Seems to be the case on the vrt calculator. Surely that can't be correct?

maddness · 16-06-2020 06:25PM

Wailin wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that due to nox charges the cost of importing a 535d has jumped from 6k to over 12k? Seems to be the case on the vrt calculator. Surely that can't be correct?

I’d say that’s actually right, any older diesels are now big money to bring in. Ironically petrols are now better value.

Wailin · 16-06-2020 06:32PM

Wow that's crazy. But helps my case in selling the 535d as it's now not feasible to import one anymore.

Sexual Chocolate · 16-06-2020 10:08PM

Wouldn't surprise me. I seen something a while back that my one was 1800 or so in Nox and that's just for the N47.

User1998 · 16-06-2020 10:12PM

Wailin wrote: »

Would I be right in saying that due to nox charges the cost of importing a 535d has jumped from 6k to over 12k? Seems to be the case on the vrt calculator. Surely that can't be correct?

Its because you didn’t input the Nox figure in your calculation, or inputted it incorrectly, if you don’t input a nox figure it automatically applies the highest amount. Most BMW’s post 2014 are Euro 6 so will only have a couple of hundred euros worth of Nox

Wailin · 16-06-2020 10:46PM

Where do I get this nox figure? I found a figure of 73 mg/km but when its put into the vrt calculator it's not correct.

Sexual Chocolate · 16-06-2020 10:49PM

There was an excel spreadsheet that revenue put out a little while back with the Nox prices. I only came across it once and couldn't find it again afterwards.

joseywales · 16-06-2020 11:28PM

I would calculate 73 mg/km as giving a nox charge of €495 using the link below.

https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/guide-to-vrt/calculating-vrt/calculating-the-nox-charge.aspx

bazz26 · 16-06-2020 11:40PM

I think the max Nox charge on Euro6 engines is €600.

Leonard Hofstadter · 17-06-2020 01:01AM

The NOx charge for anything Euro 6 is so small (even for diesels) it realistically isn't going to put anyone off importing if they want to do so.

User1998 · 17-06-2020 01:35AM

Wailin wrote: »

Where do I get this nox figure? I found a figure of 73 mg/km but when its put into the vrt calculator it's not correct.

I’m not sure thats the correct figure but say it is, you’d enter it as 0.073, not 73, entering 73 will give you the highest possible Nox charge

Wailin · 17-06-2020 11:07AM

Took an m3 for a test drive yesterday. The black one in Kildare. Pure raw driving experience but not sure if I could live with one as a daily driver and family car.

My own car, even in sport + with the stiffened dampers is still acceptably comfortable over bumps and bad roads. The M3 in comfort is still a very harsh ride. Fine on good roads of course.

I still think a non M car with the B58 engine is the better all round option.

carsfan2 · 17-06-2020 11:27AM

Wailin wrote: »

Took an m3 for a test drive yesterday. The black one in Kildare. Pure raw driving experience but not sure if I could live with one as a daily driver and family car.

My own car, even in sport + with the stiffened dampers is still acceptably comfortable over bumps and bad roads. The M3 in comfort is still a very harsh ride. Fine on good roads of course.

I still think a non M car with the B58 engine is the better all round option.

Did you get a cost to change or value on your own?
Has the test drive removed M3 from shopping list?

Wailin · 17-06-2020 11:39AM

€23k for my own and cost to change price of €31k.

I'd need another extended test drive to make my mind up on an M car. Driving around Naas with traffic wasn't great really but fair play to the chap he just handed me the keys and let me off.

I do see why they have a high turnover of ownership though. The one in Morrison's that was sold recently had 3 owners in 4 years. I guess many buy them to scratch the itch but then get bored of the harsh ride and running costs.

carsfan2 · 17-06-2020 01:57PM

It does appear a lot of buyers of M3/4 move on quickly enough alright. Too brutal as a daily driver can become annoying.
The figures to change seem not too bad for the black one But you would need a good warranty I think on a car like M3.
M340i sounds like the direction you are headed of 540i maybe.
The m340i touring in morrisons seems to be gone off their stock list so presumably sold after a long time.

Wailin · 17-06-2020 02:07PM

I wouldn't be interested in that black m3 at all. It's condition, exterior and interior, not the best. It was driven like it should I suppose and certainly wasn't treated too precious.

M340i touring would be perfect tbh. Very few for sale across the pond though. That grey one up north was sold too.

vintagevrs · 17-06-2020 02:10PM

Think you're spot on with going with a b58. Obviously a real M would be great if money was no issue, but I think its a case of diminishing returns for the cash Vs benefit with a real M. Obviously if you were tracking the car 6 times a year and driving like a dick everywhere on public roads, but nobody does that and you'll soon miss a softer place to be.

Performance wise too, a lot of these cars are just getting too fast, but maybe that's just me. I see the latest 911 review by Matt Watson is hitting motorway speed limit in 3 seconds from a launch. I just couldn't see where in Ireland you could safely even play with any of that type of performance. My own car by most standards in this thread is pretty mundane but would still catch me out at times if I'm not paying attention, or choosing not to.

chalky_ie · 17-06-2020 02:12PM

I'd have to say, I haven't found my own car(M4) hard to drive day to day at all. I would assume they are set up essentially the same as an M3, comfort suspension and eco engine settings and you could easily be driving a 430/440. I wouldn't discount it based on that experience, maybe try and get a longer time in one.

Wailin · 17-06-2020 06:38PM

conor-w wrote: »

I'd have to say, I haven't found my own car(M4) hard to drive day to day at all. I would assume they are set up essentially the same as an M3, comfort suspension and eco engine settings and you could easily be driving a 430/440. I wouldn't discount it based on that experience, maybe try and get a longer time in one.

What are you thinking of next after the M4?

chalky_ie · 17-06-2020 07:29PM

Wailin wrote: »

What are you thinking of next after the M4?

Torn between sensibility and just leaning into stupidity. A 997 911 S is the leader at the moment, but fairly wary of committing to that tax rate, and the numerous expensive issues they can have. I'm also considering an older M3 or RS4(high tax but cheaper to buy than the Porsche, so not too bad), or being semi-sensible and getting an M2/M4 with warranty and acceptable tax. Just has to be a manual and a bit special really, can't decide at all! Flip flopping every day.

carsfan2 · 17-06-2020 10:40PM

Wailin wrote: »

I wouldn't be interested in that black m3 at all. It's condition, exterior and interior, not the best. It was driven like it should I suppose and certainly wasn't treated too precious.

M340i touring would be perfect tbh. Very few for sale across the pond though. That grey one up north was sold too.

I have a feeling that what you’re looking for will be few and far between in our market and you may have to bring something in from U.K./N.I.

Would a golf gti/R hold any interest for you?

carsfan2 · 17-06-2020 10:41PM

Wailin wrote: »

I wouldn't be interested in that black m3 at all. It's condition, exterior and interior, not the best. It was driven like it should I suppose and certainly wasn't treated too precious.

M340i touring would be perfect tbh. Very few for sale across the pond though. That grey one up north was sold too.

I have a feeling that what you’re looking for will be few and far between in our market and you may have to bring something in from U.K./N.I.

Would a golf gti/R hold any interest for you?

carsfan2 · 17-06-2020 10:43PM

Wailin wrote: »

I wouldn't be interested in that black m3 at all. It's condition, exterior and interior, not the best. It was driven like it should I suppose and certainly wasn't treated too precious.

M340i touring would be perfect tbh. Very few for sale across the pond though. That grey one up north was sold too.

B58 engined cars are rare in the the Republic.
You may have to look to U.K. market for what you want.

Would a hot hatch hold any attraction for you?