Madeleine McCann

walshb · 15-06-2020 10:07PM

Utterly evil person...

Hope to god this monster never sees the light of day again..

And maybe had he been properly fooking caged the first time we wouldn’t have this thread..

ronivek · 15-06-2020 10:08PM

They were told initially that they believed she was dead, then they were told that they believed she could be alive, and now she's dead again? Without releasing details of the actual evidence surely it's hard to believe the evidence could be that convincing? Unless they've dug something else up in the meantime I suppose...

Hopefully they're closer to knowing what happened at least.

irishproduce · 15-06-2020 10:10PM

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

It's crazy following this case since it happened. I always held the belief that there was a terrible accident and the parents covered it up.

Otherwise she was snatched and killed within 24 hours since that's the statistical most likely outcome with child abduction.

The evidence they have must be photo/video of her dead or being killed which is insane. Absolutely horrible. This guy if proved guilty is beyond redemption.

I hadn't considered what evidence they have but as you mention it, it couldn't be evidence of being killed because that would give them the perpetrator as well.
Could they have her DNA from a site where it suggests she wasn't alive.
I don't know.

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:10PM

retro:electro wrote: »

That’s something that will never stop.

In relation to their reckless negligence, it should never stop.

It's vitally important other parents learn from this.

The attitude alone in this thread is concerning. Ah shur look they were only having a few glasses of wine etc.

It's very important for anyone who thinks of doing similar realize the potential consequences of leaving young kids home alone.

dark crystal · 15-06-2020 10:12PM

limnam wrote: »

In relation to their reckless negligence, it should never stop.

It's vitally important other parents learn from this.

The attitude alone in this thread is concerning. Ah shur look they were only having a few glasses of wine etc.

It's very important for anyone who thinks of doing similar realize the potential consequences of leaving young kids home alone.

I have no doubt you'll keep up the good fight.

Outlaw Pete · 15-06-2020 10:14PM

Anyone remember the 'You know what they're looking at?' scene in Heat? Wouldn't surprise me if that might be what's happening here to some degree. They leak all this info that they have evidence that Madeleine is dead perhaps to see what certain people might do, or say, or maybe even who visits a certain place they are surveilling. Just seems a little odd to be revealing this info in this manner otherwise.

Queasy Tadpole · 15-06-2020 10:14PM

irishproduce wrote: »

I hadn't considered what evidence they have but as you mention it, it couldn't be evidence of being killed because that would give them the perpetrator as well.
Could they have her DNA from a site where it suggests she wasn't alive.
I don't know.

He wore a mask when raping the elderly woman. And he video taped it.

If he did the same it's obvious its him but not 100% beyond doubt since anyone could be wearing that mask.

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:15PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone remember the 'You know what they're looking at?' scene in Heat? Wouldn't surprise me if that might be what's happening here to some degree. They leak all this info that they have evidence that Madeleine is dead perhaps to see what certain people do or say, or maybe even who visits a certain place they are surveilling. Just seems a little odd to be revealing this info in this manner.

In heat it was the other way around

Happy4all · 15-06-2020 10:15PM

Still no concrete evidence of what happened. I will remain skeptical about a conclusion.

Babooshka · 15-06-2020 10:15PM

limnam wrote: »

Strange the UK police haven't changed to a murder investigation

It's still early days

Mattdhg · 15-06-2020 10:16PM

Strumms wrote: »

He is is was in prison up to recently for raping an elderly woman, late 70’s early 80’s... he does seem like an absolute psycho. Also going by what he told his girlfriend at dinner prior to the abduction....jeez

What did he say, anything of real detail?

There was an Irish woman who was raped by a German sounding man in 2005 or so. She said that she is certain this new suspect in the McCann case was the perpetrator. (She also said the police were useless and the resort tried to stop her from reporting it incase it scared off tourists)

Outlaw Pete · 15-06-2020 10:16PM

limnam wrote: »

In heat it was the other way around

Yeah, but in real life the cops are usually a little smarter than the bad guys

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:17PM

Babooshka wrote: »

It's still early days

I thought the germans have been at this since 2013.

at what point is it no longer early

Queasy Tadpole · 15-06-2020 10:18PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone remember the 'You know what they're looking at?' scene in Heat? Wouldn't surprise me if that might be what's happening here to some degree. They leak all this info that they have evidence that Madeleine is dead perhaps to see what certain people might do, or say, or maybe even who visits a certain place they are surveilling. Just seems a little odd to be revealing this info in this manner otherwise.

There is no way. This the German Federal Police we're talking about. They have 100% logical evidence that this man killed the girl, but not what would hold up in court. If they did he would be charged already. There is no way in hell they would release this info, in a country that is obsessed with privacy unless they were 100% sure and needed just a bit more to connect it all.

Like I said, maybe they have him on film murdering the little girl with a mask on. Everything in the world points to him but that's not enough in court, it needs to be 100%.

briany · 15-06-2020 10:18PM

retro:electro wrote: »

That would be great but I seriously doubt that. That’s something that will never stop.

It's going to take a special kind of Daily Mail reader to continue to believe conspiracy theories about the McCanns if some direct evidence of the girl's murder by another party is uncovered.

strandroad · 15-06-2020 10:18PM

ronivek wrote: »

They were told initially that they believed she was dead, then they were told that they believed she could be alive, and now she's dead again? Without releasing details of the actual evidence surely it's hard to believe the evidence could be that convincing? Unless they've dug something else up in the meantime I suppose...

Hopefully they're closer to knowing what happened at least.

Perhaps they have records of communications, if he had any helpers, but no physical evidence...

Poor girl.

ronivek · 15-06-2020 10:18PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Yeah, but in real life the cops are usually a little smarter than the bad guys

Citation needed.

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:18PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Yeah, but in real life the cops are usually a little smarter than the bad guys

CB was apparently told years ago he was a hot suspect from the German side

I imagine if there was going to be panic and movement of anything, it would have been then.

Leftwaffe · 15-06-2020 10:19PM

limnam wrote: »

In relation to their reckless negligence, it should never stop.

It's vitally important other parents learn from this.

The attitude alone in this thread is concerning. Ah shur look they were only having a few glasses of wine etc.

It's very important for anyone who thinks of doing similar realize the potential consequences of leaving young kids home alone.

Absolutely they were negligent and I'm sure they live with that every single day.

mosii · 15-06-2020 10:20PM

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

He wore a mask when raping the elderly woman. And he video taped it.

If he did the same it's obvious its him but not 100% beyond doubt since anyone could be wearing that mask.

I agree,id say its something like this,i was half afraid to say it to be honest , the Germans have proof or else they wouldnt go so far, a living monster,this guy.If i was to guess ,she is in one of the wells,close to where she was taking.

SusieBlue · 15-06-2020 10:20PM

limnam wrote: »

I thought the germans have been at this since 2013.

at what point is it no longer early

Do you have to find something to criticise about absolutely everything?
Can you not appreciate the fact that we’re probably not being given all the details, and that more information will probably come to light in the public domain in the coming weeks?

Babooshka · 15-06-2020 10:22PM

limnam wrote: »

I thought the germans have been at this since 2013.

at what point is it no longer early

In this particular investigation I mean. I think you know anyway what I meant.

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:22PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Do you have to find something to criticise about absolutely everything?
Can you not appreciate the fact that we’re probably not being given all the details, and that more information will probably come to light in the public domain in the coming weeks?

Feel free to ignore any of my posts.

I'll ask/ crtique anything I deem fit, as will you.

2u2me · 15-06-2020 10:23PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Anyone remember the 'You know what they're looking at?' scene in Heat? Wouldn't surprise me if that might be what's happening here to some degree. They leak all this info that they have evidence that Madeleine is dead perhaps to see what certain people might do, or say, or maybe even who visits a certain place they are surveilling. Just seems a little odd to be revealing this info in this manner otherwise.

I thought I was the only one thinking this. I didn't want to say it.

retro:electro · 15-06-2020 10:23PM

briany wrote: »

It's going to take a special kind of Daily Mail reader to continue to believe conspiracy theories about the McCanns if some direct evidence of the girl's murder by another party is uncovered.

I don’t know.. there are many posters on this thread and others who have made absolute fools of themselves over the years, spouting absolute rubbish and posing “questions” that they didn’t actually want to hear the answers to, as they were actually just blatant judgments and cheap shots.

You would hope that given the news in the last few hours these people would maybe take a break from the internet for a few hours or even a few days and give it a rest, but I wouldn’t count on it.
There’s a lot of ego to defend.

Babooshka · 15-06-2020 10:24PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

Do you have to find something to criticise about absolutely everything?
Can you not appreciate the fact that we’re probably not being given all the details, and that more information will probably come to light in the public domain in the coming weeks?

Thanks Susie. For being so reasonable.

the_pen_turner · 15-06-2020 10:25PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I don’t know.. there are many posters on this thread and others who have made absolute fools of themselves over the years, spouting absolute rubbish and posing “questions” that they didn’t actually want to hear the answers to, as they were actually just blatant judgments and cheap shots.

You would hope that given the news in the last few hours these people would maybe take a break from the internet for a few hours or even a few days and give it a rest, but I wouldn’t count on it.
There’s a lot of ego to defend.

that applies to both sides of this

limnam · 15-06-2020 10:26PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

that applies to both sides of this

Considering the news so far is shes dead.

Which I think most people knew already.

Babooshka · 15-06-2020 10:28PM

limnam wrote: »

Feel free to ignore any of my posts.

I'll ask/ crtique anything I deem fit, as will you.

But it's the abrasive nature of your responses that grates on people.

Anyway...just hope that this is closure for this family. They will suffer forever for making a completely idiotic decision which lead to this, and just because some of us have compassion because we can empathise with how utterly empty they must feel inside despite their bravado and their PR spin doesn't mean we don't know their decisions lead to her abduction. Everyone does. You can take your bat cape off now.

Outlaw Pete · 15-06-2020 10:29PM

Queasy Tadpole wrote: »

There is no way. This the German Federal Police we're talking about. They have 100% logical evidence that this man killed the girl, but not what would hold up in court. If they did he would be charged already. There is no way in hell they would release this info, in a country that is obsessed with privacy unless they were 100% sure and needed just a bit more to connect it all.

Like I said, maybe they have him on film murdering the little girl with a mask on. Everything in the world points to him but that's not enough in court, it needs to be 100%.

True but they know he made a call that night and so it would be my guess that that they know who this person is, but maybe do not have enough evidence to charge them, and so released this information to draw that person out in someway.

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