Life is too short

Ohio9 · 15-06-2020 07:04PM #1

Strongly considering emigrating. I'm 23 years old. I cannot see a positive future here being punished for everything due to stupidity of the government.

Things that I lose compared to older generations:

1. More tax
2. Unaffordable housing: cannot afford a house in Dublin therefore I must move out and commute but here is the deal. You get punished for travelling to work with carbon taxes, inefficient public transport... which are going to quadruple very soon.
3. Diminishing returns: get absolutely demolished with taxation after certain point. So much so that it is not worth earning more for the effort required.

I believe there are far more reasonable solutions rather than punishing regular person who just wants to go to work and doesn't have another option.

I have 2 friends who have moved to California working for big internationals.

1. They make 3 times as me. Even with high taxation of California (Still much lower compared to Ireland)
2. No bull**** taxes punishing the average Joe, at least not crippling.
3. Medical insurance sponsored by the company
4. Not punished for travelling to work.
5. Cheaper housing in other states (Texas) this is where my company is headquartered.
6. Cheap cars and fuel and all other expenses cheaper with significantly higher salaries. I do not need to pay €3000 to insure a car.

15-06-2020 07:05PM

Stop taking about it and just do it!

Trigger Happy · 15-06-2020 07:16PM

Try moving to Ohio. It's cheap there. Bit of a dump, but cheap.

Signore Fancy Pants · 15-06-2020 07:17PM

Bye Bye

Ohio9 · 15-06-2020 07:18PM

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Bye Bye

Haven't moved yet, just considering.

Signore Fancy Pants · 15-06-2020 07:18PM

Ohio9 wrote: »

Haven't moved yet, just considering.

Youre not predetermined to succeed.

Adios.

Ohio9 · 15-06-2020 07:19PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Try moving to Ohio. It's cheap there. Bit of a dump, but cheap.

All of usa is a dump according to many paddys who have never been there.

Ohio9 · 15-06-2020 07:22PM

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

Youre not predetermined to succeed.

Adios.

Ok genius... your iq level is outside of human comprehension.

15-06-2020 07:23PM

Ohio9 wrote: »

Haven't moved yet, just considering.

What’s to consider?
Are you just going to keep procrastinating?

Junkyard Tom · 15-06-2020 07:29PM

Bring me back a surprise.

ewc78 · 15-06-2020 07:30PM

If I was 23 again I wouldn't even hesitate I'd be gone.

Your Face · 15-06-2020 07:33PM

Do it. Let us know how you get on.

Speak Now · 15-06-2020 07:35PM

More tax than older generations? Yeah right!

Class MayDresser · 15-06-2020 07:36PM

Do it OP, I'll be advising my own to get out of here too. Let the liberals clean up the **** that's coming down the pipe.

Lyan · 15-06-2020 07:36PM

Ireland is a good place to be nowadays. All those foreign companies came to us. You can probably get a decent job just by barely skilling yourself in IT.

I Am Nobody · 15-06-2020 07:37PM

Ohio9 wrote: »

Strongly considering emigrating. I'm 23 years old. I cannot see a positive future here being punished for everything due to stupidity of the government.

Things that I lose compared to older generations:

1. More tax
2. Unaffordable housing: cannot afford a house in Dublin therefore I must move out and commute but here is the deal. You get punished for travelling to work with carbon taxes, inefficient public transport... which are going to quadruple very soon.
3. Diminishing returns: get absolutely demolished with taxation after certain point. So much so that it is not worth earning more for the effort required.

I believe there are far more reasonable solutions rather than punishing regular person who just wants to go to work and doesn't have another option.

I have 2 friends who have moved to California working for big internationals.

1. They make 3 times as me. Even with high taxation of California (Still much lower compared to Ireland)
2. No bull**** taxes punishing the average Joe, at least not crippling.
3. Medical insurance sponsored by the company
4. Not punished for travelling to work.
5. Cheaper housing in other states (Texas) this is where my company is headquartered.
6. Cheap cars and fuel and all other expenses cheaper with significantly higher salaries. I do not need to pay €3000 to insure a car.

If that is your age then you should.Go out and see the world and all the experiences it offers.And who knows maybe along the way you find yourself and what you want to do with your life.And I truly mean that and hope the best for you.

Irish Praetorian · 15-06-2020 07:38PM

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Do it OP, I'll be advising my own to get out of here too. Let the liberals clean up the **** that's coming down the pipe.

You're going to suggest he flee to California, from Ireland, to escape 'the liberals'? Of course, I mean famously California is known for having neither a tradition of civic liberal zealotry nor hosting the international hub of feel good celebrity culture.

On a more serious note, migration might be worth considering, I'd suggest reading a few expat forums and see how others have handled it, but don't expect it to be all rosy either.

screamer · 15-06-2020 07:41PM

The whole world is going down the **** pipe at the moment. With a rising global population there’s less and less to go around and it’ll keep going That way. All depends on what you want out of life. Having been to California on numerous occasions I couldn’t stand the general way of life, not for me at all. It’s horses for courses. If you think it’s a **** hole here off you go and find somewhere you do like.

Lundstram · 15-06-2020 07:45PM

Our welfare bill is out of control but no government will dare tackle that because there would be uproar. The ordinary working Joe and Mary will keep on paying, it will never change. Get out now, OP. Get a good degree under your belt and hit the road. Ireland is not a good place to be if you have a job paying 25-60k.

c.p.w.g.w · 15-06-2020 07:49PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Our welfare bill is out of control but no government will dare tackle that because there would be uproar. The ordinary working Joe and Mary will keep on paying, it well never change. Get out now, OP. Get a good degree under your belt and hit the road. Ireland is not a good place to be if you have a job paying 25-60k.

While I was earning 28k a year and my misses was on 20k were secured a mortgage...now we are on a combined 78k after both moving to new jobs...we will likely be mortgage free before we are 40...Not in Dublin mind, but I dislike Dublin and would find it hard to live there for a variety of reasons

CBear1993 · 15-06-2020 07:53PM

Lyan wrote: »

Ireland is a good place to be nowadays. All those foreign companies came to us. You can probably get a decent job just by barely skilling yourself in IT.

Why would you want to though? Dublin is safe, but a ****hole.

You can move away from Ireland for 5 years and come back, and in the grand scheme of things, absolutely nothing changes

Lundstram · 15-06-2020 07:54PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

While I was earning 28k a year and my misses was on 20k were secured a mortgage...now we are on a combined 78k after both moving to new jobs...we will likely be mortgage free before we are 40...Not in Dublin mind, but I dislike Dublin and would find it hard to live there for a variety of reasons

I wouldn't live or work there if you paid me but a quarter of the country does. I've no idea how anyone there has a decent quality of life on 35k and under.

Fact of the matter is there's too many people in this country getting council housing which costs very little and the other half (middle income earners) pays for this along with their own!

Lyan · 15-06-2020 07:56PM

CBear1993 wrote: »

Why would you want to though? Dublin is safe, but a ****hole.

You can move away from Ireland for 5 years and come back, and in the grand scheme of things, absolutely nothing changes

They are outside Dublin too you just have to look for them. Or have a recruiter bring them to you.

Dr. Bre · 15-06-2020 07:56PM

Ohio9 wrote: »

Strongly considering emigrating. I'm 23 years old. I cannot see a positive future here being punished for everything due to stupidity of the government.

Things that I lose compared to older generations:

1. More tax
2. Unaffordable housing: cannot afford a house in Dublin therefore I must move out and commute but here is the deal. You get punished for travelling to work with carbon taxes, inefficient public transport... which are going to quadruple very soon.
3. Diminishing returns: get absolutely demolished with taxation after certain point. So much so that it is not worth earning more for the effort required.

I believe there are far more reasonable solutions rather than punishing regular person who just wants to go to work and doesn't have another option.

I have 2 friends who have moved to California working for big internationals.

1. They make 3 times as me. Even with high taxation of California (Still much lower compared to Ireland)
2. No bull**** taxes punishing the average Joe, at least not crippling.
3. Medical insurance sponsored by the company
4. Not punished for travelling to work.
5. Cheaper housing in other states (Texas) this is where my company is headquartered.
6. Cheap cars and fuel and all other expenses cheaper with significantly higher salaries. I do not need to pay €3000 to insure a car.

Stay at home

Mongfinder General · 15-06-2020 08:00PM

Life. It's the longest think anybody ever does. Apart from being dead. Unfortunately, most of western civilisation is headed the same way. The concept of ineptocracy would not have been tolerated 20 years ago. But we are actively pursuing it now. Just look at South Africa today.

jrosen · 15-06-2020 08:01PM

You should absolutely go, experience living in another country. Its a wonderful opportunity for personal growth. You will also see that the grass is not always greener.

15-06-2020 08:17PM

Ohio9 wrote: »

Life is too short

Is it?

Tell me _one_ thing you will ever do that takes longer?

the-island-man · 15-06-2020 08:19PM

You should go and experience living somewhere else. It might be better and it might be worse but you won't know until you try!

Ireland definitely has problems but you may realise in time that it's all relative. Out of ~8 billion people on the planet, there are 450 million people living in an EU nation. So you had less than a 1 in 16 chance of being born in a country where there is some kind of social protections, working standards and quality of life.

I'd take an EU country anyday over a country ravaged by war and corruption.

CBear1993 · 15-06-2020 08:21PM

the-island-man wrote: »

You should go and experience living somewhere else. It might be better and it might be worse but you won't know until you try!

Ireland definitely has problems but you may realise in time that it's all relative. Out of ~8 billion people on the planet, there are 450 million people living in an EU nation. So you had less than a 1 in 16 chance of being born in a country where there is some kind of social protections, working standards and quality of life.

I'd take an EU country anyday over a country ravaged by war and corruption.

Australia , Canada and New Zealand prob the exceptions to that, great opportunities there

15-06-2020 08:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is it?

Tell me _one_ thing you will ever do that takes longer?

Fully decompose :pac:

15-06-2020 08:29PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Fully decompose :pac:

I wont be doing it

If I was I might try to distill it. Just to see what might happen.

Life is too short

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