Madeleine McCann

Babooshka wrote: »

A quick google and hey you can find anything you're interested in:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-quiz-rapist-4779612

My search history doesn't include 'little girl being fed to pigs' im more into model aeroplaning myself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_disappeared_mysteriously:_post-1970

According to this list, the number of people who vanish without a trace in a given decade is pretty low, and within each decade, only a fraction of the vanished are toddlers/children.

So, it doesn't seem to be all that common a thing to happen, at least not in the developed world. It would seem to me that to vanish a person successfully, you're going to need either a fair degree of know-how or luck with wherever you put them. This is especially true if the vanished is the subject of an exhaustive manhunt by the authorities.

Bruckner does not strike me as someone especially artful in his crimes, and testimony describes him as unstable. Not the kind of person you can see keeping a cool head if he had in his possession one of the most sought-after people of the 2000s.

briany wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_disappeared_mysteriously:_post-1970

According to this list, the number of people who vanish without a trace in a given decade is pretty low, and within each decade, only a fraction of the vanished are toddlers/children.

So, it doesn't seem to be all that common a thing to happen, at least not in the developed world. It would seem to me that to vanish a person successfully, you're going to need either a fair degree of know-how or luck with wherever you put them. This is especially true if the vanished is the subject of an exhaustive manhunt by the authorities.

Bruckner does not strike me as someone especially artful in his crimes, and testimony describes him as unstable. Not the kind of person you can see keeping a cool head if he had in his possession one of the most sought-after people of the 2000s.

An interesting list, but a very incomplete one: I can think of some Irish names that just aren't on it!
Eva Brennan?
Josephine Dollard?
Alpho O Reilly?

But that isn't relevant to the present case: and there are some worrying features about the McCann case that hint at a bit of premeditated planning.
The mysterious two men asking around, a few days beforehand. [Sorry, this is in my memory from a witness but I cannot cite a reference]
The phone call made by C B at exactly the time that Madeline went missing.
The re-registration of C B's car the very next day.

And this suspect DOES have a history of planning and executing rape...and is a known paedophile.

dark crystal wrote: »

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8423187/Kate-Gerry-McCann-told-days-Madeleine-died.html?ito=push-notification&ci=18759&si=8448287

Kate and Gerry McCann could be given key information about how Madeleine died 'within days' as their Portuguese lawyer is set to meet with senior police.

German detectives say they have one piece of evidence that proves Madeleine died after she vanished from the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz in 2007.

Police have not told the McCanns why they dubbed the investigation a murder hunt rather than a missing person inquiry, but have shared the evidence with Portuguese police who said it was 'significant' and 'very important'.

Just read it...it's a tad confusing. First they say there's reason to believe she was murdered and they can prove it...then they say she could be alive. Doesn't make sense.

At least it explains how he wasn't on the police's radar back then though.

dark crystal wrote: »

Yes, it does seem a tad confusing, but I think I've read that quote from the German prosecutor in another story a while back, so it could be just lazy reporting, tacking on a previous article to pad out the new one. Could be wrong!

One thing that surprised me reading this article, was the attack on another young child in Praia de Luz 2 years earlier, when an intruder entered her apartment whilst the parents were out. This is such an eerie coincidence.

Could have been something to do with the layout of the complex and its apartments that leant itself to that kind of opportunism.

Babooshka wrote: »

Just read it...it's a tad confusing. First they say there's reason to believe she was murdered and they can prove it...then they say she could be alive. Doesn't make sense.

At least it explains how he wasn't on the police's radar back then though.

dark crystal wrote: »

Yes, it does seem a tad confusing, but I think I've read that quote from the German prosecutor in another story a while back, so it could be just lazy reporting, tacking on a previous article to pad out the new one. Could be wrong!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8424065/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-told-letter-written-German-prosecutors-dead.html

Now German Prosecutor has apparently sent the McCanns a letter confirming that their daughter is dead.

German prosecutors have written to Madeleine McCann’s parents to tell them she is dead.

They refused to disclose how they knew, insisting that any further information could jeopardise the inquiry into suspect Christian Brueckner.

Hans Christian Wolters, who is leading the case, yesterday said he could not share key evidence with Scotland Yard officers or police in Portugal. I sympathise with the parents but if we reveal more details to them it might jeopardise the investigation,’ he said.

‘We have concrete evidence that our suspect has killed Madeleine and this means she is dead.

The parents have been told the German police have evidence that she is dead but we have not told them the details.’

The information coming out of Germany keeps getting worse. I hope these German prosecutors genuinely have proof before sending such a devastating letter to the family.

Strange the UK police haven't changed to a murder investigation

Oh bloody hell. The last scrap of hope gone.


How can humans do such things?
We're a horrible species :-(

limnam wrote: »

Strange the UK police haven't changed to a murder investigation

Well, possibly they are not actually investigating it, right now.
And maybe they have not been formally notified so it's still a Missing Person case, until then.

dark crystal wrote: »

From the article:

Police have not told the McCanns why they dubbed the investigation a murder hunt rather than a missing person inquiry, but have shared the evidence with Portuguese police who said it was 'significant' and 'very important'.

German police, being assisted by Scotland Yard, are currently investigating convicted rapist Brueckner over Madeleine's disappearance.

Strange article

Horrible outcome.

So strange tho that they know 100%.

limnam wrote: »

Police have not told the McCanns why they dubbed the investigation a murder hunt rather than a missing person inquiry, but have shared the evidence with Portuguese police who said it was 'significant' and 'very important'.

German police, being assisted by Scotland Yard, are currently investigating convicted rapist Brueckner over Madeleine's disappearance.

Strange article

I agree some of the reporting is very confusing. Perhaps some of it is being lost in translation or old articles being mixed in with updated articles, I don't know, but this latest development is not something you'd report without some fact checking (you'd hope).

The McCanns or their lawyers could easily confirm or deny such a statement. They either received the letter or they didn't.

I don't think any law enforcement agency would send such a letter unless they were 100% certain of their facts. So, unless the McCanns deny they received this letter, I'll err on the side of believing the report and will continue to hope the family gets some closure at last.

Redordeadqwwer wrote: »

Terrible outcome. But some closure. Finally putting to bed all the conspiracy theories and Vindication for the family...

The Germans know. They have something that's irrefutable to prove she is dead. They don't mess around.

That would be great but I seriously doubt that. That’s something that will never stop.