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drunkmonkey wrote: »

Did you try trade against the M3 in Kildare...wonder what the cost to change would be. It's a stunning looking car.

Contacted that chap a few weeks ago and without seeing my car he said it's worth around €23k, which I reckon would improve if he saw the car as it's immaculate. Compare that to Bolands :rolleyes:. I love the colour of that particular M3 too, but those CC brakes would put me off and also probably mean the car was tracked a lot.

Augeo wrote: »

Are you tempted? It seems reasonable tbh .....

It's certainly an option, but it's just too low really. Another €2k and I'd be in.

bazz26 wrote: »

Nice Stinger petrol here:

https://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=2057646&r=s.php%3Fm%3D39%26o%3D2644%26g%3D0

Downside is the €1200 a year in tax v €750 on the 440i. Would it depreciate any worse than a BMW? 6 years remaining on the Kia warranty though, plenty of family space and rare as feck. Might make a nice left field alternative to that 440i Wailin?

Cheers bazz it is certainly a left field alternative and it has great styling. Surprisingly not that fast for a 365bhp car though, looking at the specs Stock 535d would be a good bit quicker which surprised me.

Replacement carbon brakes on the M3 would be €18k according to one of the guys on bmwhaus who did the sums on it, crazy money

Wailin wrote: »

Contacted that chap a few weeks ago and without seeing my car he said it's worth around €23k, which I reckon would improve if he saw the car as it's immaculate. Compare that to Bolands :rolleyes:. I love the colour of that particular M3 too, but those CC brakes would put me off and also probably mean the car was tracked a lot.

It's certainly an option, but it's just too low really. Another €2k and I'd be in.



Cheers bazz it is certainly a left field alternative and it has great styling. Surprisingly not that fast for a 365bhp car though, looking at the specs Stock 535d would be a good bit quicker which surprised me.

I'm surprised too, maybe it's down to the Stinger's weight? Probably more designed for the US market than taking on quick German saloons. In saying that I'd say even the 440i feels a bit slower than your 535d, less torque on tap and only a single turbo. The bar is fairly high.

hooch-85 wrote: »

Replacement carbon brakes on the M3 would be €18k according to one of the guys on bmwhaus who did the sums on it, crazy money

That's the problem with M cars, as well as buying one you need deep pockets to keep them going. I certainly would not buy a M car without the 2 year BMW used car warranty, worth every penny. The 440i is a less riskier proposition when it comes to running costs sitting in between the run of the mill stuff and the full blown M cars.

bazz26 wrote: »

That price has been on that car since the turn of the year. Also those photos don't do the interior much justice, it's nicer in the flesh. Maybe not up to some Germanesque interiors but I wouldn't say it's any worse than a 4 Series interior.

Any worse than a 4 Series?? Since when were they so bad!
And yes the Kia is a lot worse.

carsfan2 wrote: »

You never gave us a review of driving the 440i.
Does it feel quick or just different to the 535d? How’s the adaptive ride?

Re. The Kia, I think they are an imposing car alright and better looking in the metal but the price of the 2018 one should begin with a 3 really and you would find it harder to move on than a 440i.

Would you consider the offer on the 535 as it would give you opportunity to buy from U.K. or NI?

The only good experience with Bolands was the test drive. Junior sales guy brought me on a good variety of roads after I told him I wanted a decent drive to get a feel for the car.

I have the adaptive dampers in my F10 too and they are nice, but in the 4 series I think they are compulsory. I drove a 430d before on stock M sport suspension and it was quiet trashy over the rougher roads. With the adaptive, put it in to comfort and it's great on bad roads. Back in to sport on the good twisty roads and the car felt lovely and sharp with very little lean in the corners.

I absolutely loved the sports seats with the adjustable bolsters. You can move them in to grip you more in the seat, a nice touch. I wasn't mad on the digital display, prefer analogue. I noticed a slight bit of lag in the display too. A lot of people moan about the handbrake in the 3/4 F series, but I actually liked having the old manual handbrake back again.

The 535d is certainly quicker, and the 440i could never match the torque and shove in the chest you get from acceleration from low speeds. But the traction warning was blinking at me a few times in the 440i (much to the dismay of the sales rep :pac:), even though it was a dry road. You floor it and there's a nice growl from the engine, not too much drama at first. But it's just relentless and keeps going and going with no let up or drop in power you get from a big diesel engine. I had a big stupid grin on my face while your man was twitching nervously beside me :pac:. It's just a nice change from the torquey diesel experience.

Annual tax for it up north is £300 too. €1800 here....sickening really.

Wailin wrote: »

Annual tax for it up north is £300 too. €1800 here....sickening really.

€570? Or is that from 16 on?

440i is €750.

Wailin wrote: »

Annual tax for it up north is £300 too. €1800 here....sickening really.

I've a nice orange M4 for sale cheaper than the 440i you're looking at, taxed for the year, BMW warranty and you'd fit 2 kids in the back no problem

drunkmonkey wrote: »

€570? Or is that from 16 on?

No it's 1800 for all m3/m4 f80/f82. That's an error on that one.

Edit: sorry top dog and carsfan are right, 1200. I've been looking at so many cars lately...

conor-w wrote: »

I've a nice orange M4 for sale cheaper than the 440i you're looking at, taxed for the year, BMW warranty and you'd fit 2 kids in the back no problem

Saw the ad and she's a beaut. M3 is more suitable for me if I was going down the M route!

All joking aside, an M2 competition is the car I'd have in my driveway if I didn't need a bigger car.

M3 seems logical so if you hanker after m2.
Would you try to haggle on M3 in the north?
Just coming out of lockdown they might be more interested in a deal than previously.
If you could get a good bit off might make selling to trader of your own more acceptable.