The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

Golf R's seem to be holding value very well. This car had been advertised since before Christmas as I bought a similar one at the time. For a straight deal id say it's worth around 26k. Cumiskeys have another limestone grey one recently advertised with low miles too and they are asking €29,750. I think they are much nicer with the Pretoria wheels but I guess that's personal preference.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-golf-r-2-0tsi-dsg-5dr-300bhp/24971893

Limestone Grey is a relatively rare colour in the R too. These two cars and two others are the only ones I've seen for sale in the last two years or so, including my own. That rarity adds to the value I think anyway. Reflex silver is probably the rarest of the colours, I've only ever seen one in the country. The lapiz blue was my favourite for a long time but it's almost too common now.

Recently asked my insurer what the impact would be for the stage 1 on my premium. They said their underwriters wanted all the documentation regarding the remap before they'd make a decision and price it :rolleyes:

I'm sure it differs from insurer to insurer.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I tried with axa hadn't a clue what I was on about. It's a software update to improve mpg. Which in fairness it has as long as it's a warm day. I've been getting Sub 7 a lot over the last few weeks.
How will they ever prove you had a tune, the car is totaled or missing when you get to that point.

I was thinking about saying I bought it that way but you never know with insurance companies 🀔 I was chatting with George down in Daltons on Monday and he was saying it is incredibly hard for them to find out if it was tunes or not..the only real way to know is to data log the car or a dyno! So I think it'll have to be done in a few months regardless...

The ea888 engine though records a "td1" flag when the ECU is flashed and is how the manufacturer has in the past refused warrant work.

If the ECU is still alive and the car isn't stolen they could potentially read this and see it's been mapped. Not sure though if it is time stamped though, so you could claim you had no idea it was mapped as you're not the only owner.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When are they going to that, it's going to suffer mechanical damage in a good smash so they may check the engine still runs doubt there going to check bhp if the front wheel has met the back one, if it's stolen there's nothing to dyno.
I don't see there's anything to worry about.

To offer a counter point to that, I spotted this on another forum a while ago.



http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=283163.msg2609251#msg2609251


An Irish GTI driver who says that the map was noticed when he went for an insurance claim. I believe it can be detected and might get your car 'flagged' (TD1 or something?). So if your car was previously not TD1, and then was 'flagged' while you owned it, the excuse that it was like that when I got it wouldn't fly.



I don't know how likely this is, but they don't have to go dynoing it to detect these things. The poster elaborated and said that a VW main dealer noticed it and had to disclose it to the insurance company. Surprisingly it didn't make a difference, but I'm sure they could try and use it against you.

Insurance companies as a rule go out of their way to avoid paying out.

I'm contemplating getting my Mark V remapped but it will be in consultation with the insurance company. If it is too expensive, then I'll leave it.

I agree that it would be highly unlikely that an Insurance Company would check, and I might be considered boring not to do it that way, but I'd be the ****er who gets caught and has a judgement hanging over my head for the foreseeable future.

everlast75 wrote: »

Insurance companies as a rule go out of their way to avoid paying out.

This 100%.

I've always wondered where the line is. If my brakes fail and instead of replacing with the OEM, I decide to replace with something bigger and upgraded, is that a 'mod'? What about springs? A remap is pretty obviously a mod, but an upgraded set of brakes and springs, and wheels could surely be argued is just a 'replacement part'.

There's no one declaring to their insurance company when they swap the bridgestones to happy circles all around, or get the cheapest pads and discs they can off Micks Garage. How is an improved part different?

Uberrima is a Latin phrase meaning "utmost good faith" (literally, "most abundant faith"). It is the name of a legal doctrine which governs insurance contracts. I remember this from basic Contract law.

Every person who enters into a contract with an insurance company has a legal obligation to be honest and accurate in the information given.

The insurance company can deny coverage if they can prove that.

Again, I get that its unlikely that they'll check, but it's also unlikely that you'll win the lotto, but a lot of people play on the chance that they might.

everlast75 wrote: »

Uberrima is a Latin phrase meaning "utmost good faith" (literally, "most abundant faith"). It is the name of a legal doctrine which governs insurance contracts. I remember this from basic Contract law.

Every person who enters into a contract with an insurance company has a legal obligation to be honest and accurate in the information given.

The insurance company can deny coverage if they can prove that.

Again, I get that its unlikely that they'll check, but it's also unlikely that you'll win the lotto, but a lot of people play on the chance that they might.

Everlast, you’ve lost your faith (fides) based on that post so it just not be everlasting!

Seems like an ok price for a 6 month old considering how expensive they are this year. New model out 2021, might be far enough away for people to not care about getting the 'old' one?

Mad to think a new 1.5 Mk8 Golf Style with alloys and paint is €37k delivered and there's a fairly fresh Cupra that could possibly be haggled down to €38-38,5.

I don't normally like black cars but it looks good on the Cupra in person.

I wonder how long this one will stick around for given the employment situation as they usually move them quick.

I'd say with production of the existing Cupra now finished and the new model not available yet I'd say the asking price maybe reflecting the notion that if you want an existing one now then this is what it will cost.