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Madeleine McCann

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  • #1022
    Chicoso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    First thing that came to mind upon hearing this news was the the ex-met police commander who was on skyn news all the time, at the time

    He was adamant they had nothing to do with it and rubbished all theories pointing to them

    I wondered whether he would be proved right or wrong, his name eludes me


  • #1023
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,946 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Who said it was normal?

    I'm not going back through the thread, but someone did and got Thanks if I recall correctly. They may have said it wasn't abnormal, but that implies normal.


  • #1024
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Chicoso wrote: »
    First thing that came to mind upon hearing this news was the the ex-met police commander who was on skyn news all the time, at the time

    He was adamant they had nothing to do with it and rubbished all theories pointing to them

    I wondered whether he would be proved right or wrong, his name eludes me

    Jim Gamble seems about the best on it but I don’t think you mean him. Is there an Andy something?


  • #1025
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes. I think all they are guilty of , really, is being a bit odd , and awkward , at a time in their lives when they should have been protected from the glare of publicity .
    They made a terribly stupid mistake which cost them their daughter's life and their lives too , in effect.
    The media have savaged them , but they have used it too , albeit to seach for their child
    Doesn't make up for the hideous stuff written about them.

    I thought the British tabloids were on the side of British citizens who were victims of crime abroad, to be honest. That's what makes the libelling of Kate and Gerry by the Daily Express and other papers difficult to comprehend.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#Libel_actions


  • #1026
    Shefwedfan
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm not going back through the thread, but someone did and got Thanks if I recall correctly. They may have said it wasn't abnormal, but that implies normal.


    Disregard Thanks from all posts.



    Saying something is not abnormal does not mean it is normal practise. I think you are do a bit of tabloid journalism.


    So you agree nobody said it was normal?


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  • #1027
    Babooshka
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Babooshka


    political analyst wrote: »
    I thought the British tabloids were on the side of British citizens who were victims of crime abroad, to be honest. That's what makes the libelling of Kate and Gerry by the Daily Express and other papers difficult to comprehend.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#Libel_actions

    There are plenty of UK citizens who the press are certainly not on the side of, and they're not even tainted the way the McCanns were for their behaviour. You only have to look at Daily Mail online for live examples. The red tops pandered to it being them, and used their headlines to cause suspicion on them during their arguido stage, every day. You mustn't have seen the papers back then if you don't recall it. They swung between it being the McCanns one day, and then the portuguese police being keystone cops, penduluming like a punch and judy show - the press are on no one's side except what sells.


  • #1028
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,200 ✭✭✭✭briany


    political analyst wrote: »
    I thought the British tabloids were on the side of British citizens who were victims of crime abroad, to be honest. That's what makes the libelling of Kate and Gerry by the Daily Express and other papers difficult to comprehend.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann#Libel_actions

    I'm sure the media would have gone after the person who actually carried out the abduction if that person were found, but given that such a person has not yet been found, and given that the tabloids love to point the finger, the next step down the totem pole was the McCanns and their negligence to at least lock the patio door.


  • #1029
    Shefwedfan
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    briany wrote: »
    I'm sure the media would have gone after the person who actually carried out the abduction if that person were found, but given that such a person has not yet been found, and given that the tabloids love to point the finger, the next step down the totem pole was the McCanns and their negligence to at least lock the patio door.


    The first guy who was arrested by the incompetent Portugese police got his life pulled apart as well by the press. Can't think of his name, from what I remember his only issue was he came out to help translate from English for the family. One of the cops watched CSI and decided it had to be someone who would involve themselves in the case.....


  • #1030
    briany
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The first guy who was arrested by the incompetent Portugese police got his life pulled apart as well by the press. Can't think of his name, from what I remember his only issue was he came out to help translate from English for the family. One of the cops watched CSI and decided it had to be someone who would involve themselves in the case.....

    Robert Murat?

    Yeah, he once again proved the old saying, "No good deed goes unpunished..."


  • #1031
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,260 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    The first guy who was arrested by the incompetent Portugese police got his life pulled apart as well by the press. Can't think of his name, from what I remember his only issue was he came out to help translate from English for the family. One of the cops watched CSI and decided it had to be someone who would involve themselves in the case.....

    Robert Murat . It was a British journalist who first reported him to the police because she found him over zealous and pushing himself forward

    PS . Lori Cambell was her name


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  • #1032
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Robert Murat . It was a British journalist who first reported him to the police because she found him over zealous and pushing himself forward

    PS . Lori Cambell was her name


    Just shows hwo incompetent the Porugese police where that they took the word of a tabloid journalist instead of proper police work


  • #1033
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,773 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    juno10353 wrote: »
    Puerto de lulz seems to have had a crazy amount of Peodeophiles in their area including a holiday home of Clement Freud which the McCanns visited after disappearance. Freuds family deny Freud was there at that time, yet Kate describes the visit in her book

    https://closeronline.co.uk/real-life/news/madeleine-mccann-police-investigating-sir-clement-freud/

    The Clement Freud connection is really creepy and as you say Praia de Luiz had a reputation for paedos living in the area. Paedophile rings where all members co-operate and share information on targets are not uncommon, we have had a few here in Ireland

    Case of Cythia Owens in Dalkey, sexually abused and raped by her own parents who then prostituted her out to a paedophile ring operating locally. Two members of the ring are alleged to be Gardai. She fell pregnant at the age of 11 and her mother murdered the baby with knitting needles. The same Gardai who were members of the ring never properly investigated the murder
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Case of a 22 strong paedophile ring operating in Donegal. Members included a priest and a teacher. Victim who was 13 years old at the time reports that her personal diary shows she had sex 57 times with 22 different men over a 6 month period. A convicted English paedo William John Paden from Blackpool in the UK travelled to Donegal too and was sexually abusing her, he was arrested here in 2010. This shows that paedo rings can even co-operate internationally
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Both links are long reads but reading through them gives you an insight into how these rings operate. They get a vulnerable child groomed and then pass them around the ring.

    So when I read about the paedo Clement Frued, a wealthy individual and former MP and then about several other paedos coincidentally all living close to each other geographically it makes you wonder was Madelines abduction highly planned and executed by a local paedophile ring.


  • #1034
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The Clement Freud connection is really creepy and as you say Praia de Luiz had a reputation for paedos living in the area. Paedophile rings where all members co-operate and share information on targets are not uncommon, we have had a few here in Ireland

    Case of Cythia Owens in Dalkey, sexually abused and raped by her own parents who then prostituted her out to a paedophile ring operating locally. Two members of the ring are alleged to be Gardai. She fell pregnant at the age of 11 and her mother murdered the baby with knitting needles. The same Gardai who were members of the ring never properly investigated the murder
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Case of a 22 strong paedophile ring operating in Donegal. Members included a priest and a teacher. Victim who was 13 years old at the time reports that her personal diary shows she had sex 57 times with 22 different men over a 6 month period. A convicted English paedo William John Paden from Blackpool in the UK travelled to Donegal too and was sexually abusing her, he was arrested here in 2010. This shows that paedo rings can even co-operate internationally
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Both links are long reads but reading through them gives you an insight into how these rings operate. They get a vulnerable child groomed and then pass them around the ring.

    So when I read about the paedo Clement Frued, a wealthy individual and former MP and then about several other paedos coincidentally all living close to each other geographically it makes you wonder was Madelines abduction highly planned and executed by a local paedophile ring.

    Yeah maybe it was as simple as that alright.
    The thing that goes for the mccanns is that they wouldn't have got away with it in the long run i suppose.


  • #1035
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Robert Murat . It was a British journalist who first reported him to the police because she found him over zealous and pushing himself forward

    PS . Lori Cambell was her name

    She said he reminded her of Ian Huntley ( having never met Huntley in her life) we can say that but a journo to say it is crazy. He got something like 600k for it but should of got in the Millions, they destroyed Robert Murat.


  • #1036
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    The Clement Freud connection is really creepy and as you say Praia de Luiz had a reputation for paedos living in the area. Paedophile rings where all members co-operate and share information on targets are not uncommon, we have had a few here in Ireland

    Case of Cythia Owens in Dalkey, sexually abused and raped by her own parents who then prostituted her out to a paedophile ring operating locally. Two members of the ring are alleged to be Gardai. She fell pregnant at the age of 11 and her mother murdered the baby with knitting needles. The same Gardai who were members of the ring never properly investigated the murder
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Case of a 22 strong paedophile ring operating in Donegal. Members included a priest and a teacher. Victim who was 13 years old at the time reports that her personal diary shows she had sex 57 times with 22 different men over a 6 month period. A convicted English paedo William John Paden from Blackpool in the UK travelled to Donegal too and was sexually abusing her, he was arrested here in 2010. This shows that paedo rings can even co-operate internationally
    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/01/12/a-dalkey-archive/

    Both links are long reads but reading through them gives you an insight into how these rings operate. They get a vulnerable child groomed and then pass them around the ring.

    So when I read about the paedo Clement Frued, a wealthy individual and former MP and then about several other paedos coincidentally all living close to each other geographically it makes you wonder was Madelines abduction highly planned and executed by a local paedophile ring.

    If it was Freud and a Gang like that then you’d question the Mc Canns or you look at Frued befriending them and using them to get a kick out of it. Did the police know about Frued at the time I wonder and if so did they investigate why the parents were in contact with him. So many questions so little answers.


  • #1037
    Mike3287
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    Maddie telling her parents why didn't you come when Sean and I were scared and crying last night ( they were too busy getting pissed ) looking alot more important now

    Seems the poor baby probably did see her abductor that night scoping the place out and that scared the life out of her

    Saddest thing is she told her useless parents that morning and they did it again that night, rest is history

    All for a glass wine

    Sad


  • #1038
    Chicoso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Maddie telling her parents why didn't you come when Sean and I were scared and crying last night ( they were too busy getting pissed ) looking alot more important now

    Seems the poor baby probably did see her abductor that night scoping the place out and that scared the life out of her

    Saddest thing is she told her useless parents that morning and they did it again that night, rest is history

    All for a glass wine

    Sad

    Ok

    Hope u feel better after that


  • #1039
    MoonUnit75
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Just shows hwo incompetent the Porugese police where that they took the word of a tabloid journalist instead of proper police work

    They only arrested him after Jane Tanner positively identified him as being the man she saw walking away from the apartments carrying a child. Just a few days before she claimed the man had untidy hair down to his neck and she didn't see his face clearly. Murat had short, well kept hair.
    Jane would later bizarrely claim that she panicked because she thought the police were trying to kidnap her for some unknown reason.


  • #1040
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,260 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Maddie telling her parents why didn't you come when Sean and I were scared and crying last night ( they were too busy getting pissed ) looking alot more important now

    Seems the poor baby probably did see her abductor that night scoping the place out and that scared the life out of her

    Saddest thing is she told her useless parents that morning and they did it again that night, rest is history

    All for a glass wine

    Sad

    It is was not said by Kate that Madeleine said she was scared . Madeleine said she and Sean had cried ..


  • #1041
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Maddie telling her parents why didn't you come when Sean and I were scared and crying last night ( they were too busy getting pissed ) looking alot more important now

    Seems the poor baby probably did see her abductor that night scoping the place out and that scared the life out of her

    Saddest thing is she told her useless parents that morning and they did it again that night, rest is history

    All for a glass wine

    Sad

    The fact that you are even referring to her as Maddie shows how little you actually know about the case.


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  • #1042
    callmehal
    Site Banned Posts: 461 ✭✭callmehal


    Were the kids crying the night before? Was Kate asked about her whereabouts while they were crying? Why were they left alone again after that?


  • #1043
    2u2me
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    callmehal wrote: »
    Were the kids crying the night before? Was Kate asked about her whereabouts while they were crying? Why were they left alone again after that?



  • #1044
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Maddie telling her parents why didn't you come when Sean and I were scared and crying last night ( they were too busy getting pissed ) looking alot more important now

    Seems the poor baby probably did see her abductor that night scoping the place out and that scared the life out of her

    Saddest thing is she told her useless parents that morning and they did it again that night, rest is history

    All for a glass wine

    Sad

    You got to love these types of posts with so much wrong you don’t know which bit to correct :-)

    Yet these types of stories are constantly repeated ad nauseam


  • #1045
    callmehal
    Site Banned Posts: 461 ✭✭callmehal


    2u2me wrote: »

    Wow. That their 3 year old daughter made a comment to them like that but it meant nothing to them. They never would have thought of it again they said. How could that not be affected by not being there for their child. The next night they did the exact same thing and left them while they were doing important stuff, eating and drinking with their pals.


  • #1046
    Mike3287
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You got to love these types of posts with so much wrong you don’t know which bit to correct :-)

    Yet these types of stories are constantly repeated ad nauseam

    Watch the vid

    It was close enough

    Where were you when I cried

    Maddie to her parents

    They were in the pub


  • #1047
    Mike3287
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    Chicoso wrote: »
    Ok

    Hope u feel better after that

    Not really, it is sad

    Especially with all the info coming out now of place being scoped out etc

    Reminds of that film " Man On Fire " where the little girl was kidnapped

    But Maddie didn't have a father figure like Denzel to protect/save her


  • #1048
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    Watch the vid

    It was close enough

    Where were you when I cried

    Maddie to her parents

    They were in the pub

    Her name is Madeleine.


  • #1049
    Mike3287
    Closed Accounts Posts: 379 ✭✭Mike3287


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Her name is Madeleine.

    I know

    Can I not call her Maddie?

    Short version


  • #1050
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mike3287 wrote: »
    I know

    Can I not call her Maddie?

    Short version

    No


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  • #1051
    callmehal
    Site Banned Posts: 461 ✭✭callmehal


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Her name is Madeleine.

    Are you not sickened by the video? They basically stated that their 3 year old daughter crying meant nothing to them.


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