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Madeleine McCann

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  • #752
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Mortgage free 6 months post disappearance. Weren't that broken .

    Why did Kate wash maddie's teddy the day after she disappeared ? Surely youd want her scent forever

    She didn't wash it the day after she disappeared. She washed it 70 days after, having carried it everywhere with her in the meantime. If you're going to lynch them, at least get your facts straight first.
    Horrible humans

    There certainly are some horrible humans out there alright.


  • #753
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Mortgage free 6 months post disappearance. Weren't that broken .

    Why did Kate wash maddie's teddy the day after she disappeared ? Surely youd want her scent forever

    Horrible humans


    Horrible humans are the people who tell lies on the internet to try and insult someone else.



    Sad that you feel the need to lie. Horrible is the exact word I would use


  • #754
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    13 days? Sweet lord I’m an easy going person but that’s really angered me that you think I’m that stupid. The next morning they went for a jog and that’s ingrained in my brain. Their behavior contributed to allot of what they suffer, I hope they aren’t involved in any way. I’ll be the first to admit it but I’ll always find their behavior weird in the extreme. Doesn’t make them guilty but it’s made me highly suspicious. There’s nothing straight forward in this case to say we’re all overreacting about the Mc Canns plus it didn’t make me Anti or Pro. I’m pro finding what happened Madeline.

    Sorry I’m confused, why are you angry and where did I imply that you are stupid?


  • #755
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    For me Kate’s first words were she’s been taken then the scene was contaminated by everyone thereafter, that’s not normal behavior,

    What's 'normal behaviour' in that situation?
    excuse me if parts of all this are coming back after all this time but only Kate’s finger prints were on the shutter and nobody else’s. Tom of strange things

    They were staying in the apartment and it was warm...why shouldn't Kate's fingerprints be on the window?


  • #756
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    13 days? Sweet lord I’m an easy going person but that’s really angered me that you think I’m that stupid. The next morning they went for a jog and that’s ingrained in my brain. Their behavior contributed to allot of what they suffer, I hope they aren’t involved in any way. I’ll be the first to admit it but I’ll always find their behavior weird in the extreme. Doesn’t make them guilty but it’s made me highly suspicious. There’s nothing straight forward in this case to say we’re all overreacting about the Mc Canns plus it didn’t make me Anti or Pro. I’m pro finding what happened Madeline.

    this is my view on it too.
    what i think happened changes as the facts change. up to now the parents were the main suspects due to all the weird(spelled right hopefully:P) things they did and all the inconsistancies in their stories.
    i am the first to say that this new suspect changes everything and it is looking very likely he did it or was somehow involved. but that might not be the case either


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  • #757
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    dark crystal wrote: »
    What's 'normal behaviour' in that situation?



    They were staying in the apartment and it was warm...why shouldn't Kate's fingerprints be on the window?

    if you found your child missing from their room you would think she had wandered off ect not that they have taken her. thats a very strange turn of phrase to say so early . you would start searching around and moving stuff to see if she was there. you would shout her name to see if she was around the area.


  • #758
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    13 days? Sweet lord I’m an easy going person but that’s really angered me that you think I’m that stupid. The next morning they went for a jog and that’s ingrained in my brain. .

    Where did you find this information? I can't find it anywhere.


  • #759
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    if you found your child missing from their room you would think she had wandered off ect not that they have taken her. thats a very strange turn of phrase to say so early . you would start searching around and moving stuff to see if she was there. you would shout her name to see if she was around the area.

    Sorry, but how exactly do you know what you'd do never having been in that situation yourself?

    How do you know what Kate did in the apartment when she discovered Madeline was not in her bed or where she looked?

    See, this is the stuff I can't get my head around - people condemning them for not acting the exact same way someone else presumes they'd act in a similar scenario.


  • #760
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    dark crystal wrote: »
    Sorry, but how exactly do you know what you'd do never having been in that situation yourself?

    How do you know what Kate did in the apartment when she discovered Madeline was not in her bed or where she looked?

    i dont know what i would do but frantically searching and shouting out the childs name is what most do in similar situations.

    we know what she did because its in the files


  • #761
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    13 days? Sweet lord I’m an easy going person but that’s really angered me that you think I’m that stupid. The next morning they went for a jog and that’s ingrained in my brain. Their behavior contributed to allot of what they suffer, I hope they aren’t involved in any way. I’ll be the first to admit it but I’ll always find their behavior weird in the extreme. Doesn’t make them guilty but it’s made me highly suspicious. There’s nothing straight forward in this case to say we’re all overreacting about the Mc Canns plus it didn’t make me Anti or Pro. I’m pro finding what happened Madeline.

    A lot of people online suggested that Gerry McCann is very narcissistic and if so that would explain his behaviour and response to the situation.

    Narcissistic people cannot have any empathy for others only their own selfish lifestyle.

    If they're not guilty of anything their behaviour would boil down to personally disorders and how it would effect their reaction to their missing child.

    I know a few people like them, and an old guy I know who's dead now used to call a local family the McCann's...
    Because the dad was very like Gerry McCann even his mannerisms and the way he was just not a friendly or nice person.
    His wife was very timid and wouldn't say hello when she was with him, and when she was over in England he'd have a woman stay over for a few days and nobody would question it..

    There's odd families everywhere..


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  • #762
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    if you found your child missing from their room you would think she had wandered off ect not that they have taken her. thats a very strange turn of phrase to say so early . you would start searching around and moving stuff to see if she was there. you would shout her name to see if she was around the area.

    Doesn’t your mind always go to worst case scenario as an automatic stress response though?

    Even parents in supermarkets will panic that someone has kidnapped their child even when they know rationally the child probably just wandered off and will be found shortly.

    And she did start searching around for her, hence the whole crime scene was contaminated because so many people were in and out looking for Madeleine.


  • #763
    [Deleted User]
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    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    if you found your child missing from their room you would think she had wandered off ect not that they have taken her. thats a very strange turn of phrase to say so early . you would start searching around and moving stuff to see if she was there. you would shout her name to see if she was around the area.

    Depends if your child has a history of wandering off from their bed. If they don't, then what she said isn't just strange, it's probably likely enough.


  • #764
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    nthclare wrote: »
    A lot of people online suggested that Gerry McCann is very narcissistic and if so that would explain his behaviour and response to the situation.

    Narcissistic people cannot have any empathy for others only their own selfish lifestyle.

    If they're not guilty of anything their behaviour would boil down to personally disorders and how it would effect their reaction to their missing child.

    I know a few people like them, and an old guy I know who's dead now used to call a local family the McCann's...
    Because the dad was very like Gerry McCann even his mannerisms and the way he was just not a friendly or nice person.
    His wife was very timid and wouldn't say hello when she was with him, and when she was over in England he'd have a woman stay over for a few days and nobody would question it..

    There's odd families everywhere..

    Does it make you neglect your kids?


  • #765
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Doesn’t your mind always go to worst case scenario as an automatic stress response though?

    Even parents in supermarkets will panic that someone has kidnapped their child even when they know rationally the child probably just wandered off and will be found shortly.

    And she did start searching around for her, hence the whole crime scene was contaminated because so many people were in and out looking for Madeleine.

    i dont think so. not in my experience (not much thankfully).


  • #766
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    i dont know what i would do but frantically searching and shouting out the childs name is what most do in similar situations.

    we know what she did because its in the files

    From her statement:

    "At around 10pm, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed but not locked, as she said before. She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

    Faced with this situation,she verified that the twins were in their respective beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared. The cover was pulled back and the toys were on the pillow as usual. After searching the whole apartment thoroughly, the interviewee went back, scared and shocked, to the restaurant, to alert her husband and the others to the disappearance. The whole group then set about searching for Madeleine throughout the complex, looked in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc....as well as in the apartment with the help of employees, who, at the same time, contacted the authorities."


  • #767
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    dark crystal wrote: »
    From her statement:

    "At around 10pm, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed but not locked, as she said before. She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

    Faced with this situation,she verified that the twins were in their respective beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared. The cover was pulled back and the toys were on the pillow as usual. After searching the whole apartment thoroughly, the interviewee went back, scared and shocked, to the restaurant, to alert her husband and the others to the disappearance. The whole group then set about searching for Madeleine throughout the complex, looked in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc....as well as in the apartment with the help of employees, who, at the same time, contacted the authorities."

    i stand corrected then. they do go looking. its a while since i read the files. for some reason i remembered diferently,.

    also worth noting that some of the first paragraph was proven to be lies when they checked the windows etc.

    i still think its a very weird thing to say straight away


  • #768
    Sweet.Science
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    Not one sign of a break in

    She died in the room ffs !


  • #769
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    dark crystal wrote: »
    From her statement:

    "At around 10pm, the interviewee went to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed but not locked, as she said before. She noticed that the door to her children's bedroom was completely open, the window was also open, the shutters raised and the curtains open, while she was certain of having closed them all as she always did.

    Faced with this situation,she verified that the twins were in their respective beds, unlike Madeleine, who had disappeared. The cover was pulled back and the toys were on the pillow as usual. After searching the whole apartment thoroughly, the interviewee went back, scared and shocked, to the restaurant, to alert her husband and the others to the disappearance. The whole group then set about searching for Madeleine throughout the complex, looked in all the buildings, swimming pool, tennis courts etc....as well as in the apartment with the help of employees, who, at the same time, contacted the authorities."

    What files is this from?


  • #770
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Not one sign of a break in

    She died in the room ffs !

    Jesus, I hope you're never called for jury service!


  • #771
    dark crystal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    limnam wrote: »
    What files is this from?

    PJ files.


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  • #772
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    Interesting discussion where it’s claimed that Portuguese police said someone would ultimately be framed for it. The interviewee runs a podcast which I haven’t listened to so no idea how credible he is. Anyone any views?

    https://youtu.be/7mzfpj9bCdU


  • #773
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Not one sign of a break in

    She died in the room ffs !

    So where is the body?


  • #774
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    @2u2me can you add the number to the opening post +351 916 510 683 that would be a good way for us all to try help in the case of Madeline. Can you reply and let us know, what do we all think?

    I just tried, I can't edit the OP. Perhaps an admin can do it.


  • #775
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Not one sign of a break in

    She died in the room ffs !
    Do not make claims that cannot be backed up. You know no more than the rest of us

    Do not respond to this warning in-thread


  • #776
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    2u2me wrote: »
    I just tried, I can't edit the OP. Perhaps an admin can do it.

    I'll do it now


  • #777
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Beasty wrote: »
    I'll do it now

    is that a number if you have info or the no the german man rang. its confusing in the opening post


  • #778
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    is that a number if you have info or the no the german man rang. its confusing in the opening post

    Why is it so difficult for authorities to get info on a phone number?

    Can this not be pulled from telephone companies?


  • #779
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    is that a number if you have info or the no the german man rang. its confusing in the opening post

    Apologies, I had assumed the former - if it's the latter I'll change the narrative


  • #780
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    It seems at least 3 separate police forces believe Madeline is dead and the same suspect did it. If he did became this travelling hobo type thing as reported then he was planning something once he turned to that kind of life. Easy see how he could leave the area so quickly and then panic when every man and it’s dog in the world were looking for Maddie. The fact he’s away for other crimes could of hindered the suspicion of him cause he wasn’t free to do it again and not on the radar as a few man would be is my guess. It’s a bit more believable when a few police forces seem to agree. What a crazy year if Maddie is or her abductor is caught after all we’ve been through in 2020.

    Her name is Madeline.


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  • #781
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    limnam wrote: »
    Why is it so difficult for authorities to get info on a phone number?

    Can this not be pulled from telephone companies?

    i dont know.
    they must not have that info .
    hopefully someone knows who he rang


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