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George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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  • #6692
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It's been like that in Ireland for a while now especially when applying for public service jobs, if you're black, traveller, disabled, gay, trans you're at the top of the queue for every job. The last application I filled out specifically asked me all of those questions. As a straight white male I'm automatically placed at the bottom of the pile and I 100% know this to be true as a family member is very high up in one of the public sectors.

    Hold on now, I thought white northern Europeans were naturally more intelligent?

    Surely you should be way out ahead of them?


  • #6693
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    Over 70 cops in the Buffalo unit the 2 pushers were suspended from, have resigned from that unit in protest at the suspensions. Unfortunately that might leave Buffalo police a bit short-handed, but it might be the best for the people of Buffalo.

    Good tbh. I hope they are all scared ****less and are demanding to be retrained before going back on riot duty. As they should.


  • #6694
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Absolutely, refusing to give a job to the best qualified person because his or her race does not fit the gender or race criteria is racism itself
    Rodin wrote: »
    Yet we had female-only jobs in academia created in this country.

    In both cases, earlier promises to treat people equally were found to have been empty and so the more serious steps were taken.


  • #6695
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You would never protest?

    Not unless he filed for a permit in advance with the towns ministry of truth and had it ordained by The Party.


  • #6696
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    are you unable to differentiate the difference between protesting and impeding riot police when told to move during a pandemic ?

    So if you are protesting peacefully and refuse to "comply" (we don't know if they told him.to get out of the way, they claim he "slipped") then it's ok if you end up with a cracked skull?


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  • #6697
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,863 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    In both cases, earlier promises to treat people equally were found to have been empty and so the more serious steps were taken.

    Serious, or ludicrous?

    Glazers Out!



  • #6698
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    So if you are protesting peacefully and refuse to "comply" (we don't know if they told him.to get out of the way, they claim he "slipped") then it's ok if you end up with a cracked skull?


    Have you trouble reading ?


    I would not impede riot police .
    You know you can protest but not impede riot police,


  • #6699
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    nullzero wrote: »
    Serious, or ludicrous?

    Would you call it ludicrous if you were equally or more qualified than your counterparts of different genders but yet time and time again you failed to land the position?


  • #6700
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    nullzero wrote: »
    What a world we live in.

    I was applying for a job with a Northern Irish based company a good few years ago and their questionnaire was filled with questions about which "community" and religion you belonged to, needless to say I didn't bother going any further with the application.

    They have to collect stats to show there's no discrimination in the north, but interview panels don't see it. I've been on a few panels in the public sector.


  • #6701
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,863 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Would you call it ludicrous if you were equally or more qualified than your counterparts of different genders but yet time and time again you failed to land the position?

    It would be ludicrous to assume that to be the case based on personal bias without having evidence to support it.

    Glazers Out!



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  • #6702
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,863 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    They have to collect stats to show there's no discrimination in the north, but interview panels don't see it. I've been on a few panels in the public sector.

    Thanks for the explanation.

    Glazers Out!



  • #6703
    y0ssar1an22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,452 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Rodin wrote: »
    Yet we had female-only jobs in academia created in this country.

    think the politicians now have gender quota as well


  • #6704
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Have you trouble reading ?


    I would not impede riot police .
    You know you can protest but not impede riot police,

    They weren’t impeded. Go around. Give him more than 0.2 seconds to “move it”

    Nevermind you may god forbid find yourself in the very situation of protesting a corrupt police force. Will you be so capitulating to police then? Let them call all the shots on what box you are allowed to protest from? 1 minute after 7 pm the teargas rounds hit people sitting in the gd face?


  • #6705
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Have you trouble reading ?


    I would not impede riot police .
    You know you can protest but not impede riot police,

    He didnt "impede them" though, impeding would be him trying to stop their forward momentum by force. He calmly approached them and was almost instantly shoved hard enough for him to fall backwards and crack his skull. He approached them, he didnt impede them.


  • #6706
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Have you trouble reading ?


    I would not impede riot police .
    You know you can protest but not impede riot police,

    Given the number of police per head of populaiton, it can nearly always be said that the police carry out their duties through the applied consent of the population.

    This situation has shown that the general populace no longer consents to excessive behaviour by the police. What are the population to do, stay at home? observe curfew? not protest? In many many cases, as in the situation in Buffalo, there was no active riot but the police were moving to quell the peoples right to assembly and free speech. Just because someone gets dressed up as Robocop does not give them the authority to attack peaceful protesters.


  • #6707
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Overheal wrote: »
    They weren’t impeded. Go around. Give him more than 0.2 seconds to “move it”

    Nevermind you may god forbid find yourself in the very situation of protesting a corrupt police force. Will you be so capitulating to police then? Let them call all the shots on what box you are allowed to protest from? 1 minute after 7 pm the teargas rounds hit people sitting in the gd face?


    Would you have done what the old guy did and approach the oncoming riot police ?


  • #6708
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It's been like that in Ireland for a while now especially when applying for public service jobs, if you're black, traveller, disabled, gay, trans you're at the top of the queue for every job. The last application I filled out specifically asked me all of those questions. As a straight white male I'm automatically placed at the bottom of the pile and I 100% know this to be true as a family member is very high up in one of the public sectors.

    I'm calling BS on a job application asking you what your sexual orientation was or whether you are a traveler or not.

    If you were, take a case to the workplace relations commission and let us know how you get on.


  • #6709
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    are you unable to differentiate the difference between protesting and impeding riot police when told to move during a pandemic ?

    If the cops were right to push him... how come they are denying that, and claiming he "tripped and fell" instead?

    Do you believe he was pushed, or that he "tripped and fell"?


  • #6710
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'm calling BS on a job application asking you what your sexual orientation was or whether you are a traveler or not.

    If you were, take a case to the workplace relations commission and let us know how you get on.


    yes exactly. the majority of the posters are making up stuff and then fighting over the fake news.


  • #6711
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ElmoLaw wrote: »
    yes exactly. the majority of the posters are making up stuff and then fighting over the fake news.

    Can't think of anyone who would have given them an example of how to use that strategy.

    Well, can think of one and lots of the same posters are all over other threads dictated to him also saying how good he is and falsely represented by everyone else.


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  • #6712
    ElmoLaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭ElmoLaw


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Can't think of anyone who would have given them an example of how to use that strategy.

    Well, can think of one and lots of the same posters are all over other threads dictated to him also saying how good he is and falsely represented by everyone else.


    could be the same person with about 20 different accounts :pac:


  • #6713
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,778 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Hold on now, I thought white northern Europeans were naturally more intelligent?

    Surely you should be way out ahead of them?

    Eeh. That’s the point...


  • #6714
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Would you have done what the old guy did and approach the oncoming riot police ?

    I don’t see why not. Stand your ground and all that.


  • #6715
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,468 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Back on topic everyone

    And to be clear it's about an incident in the US - nothing to do with other parts of the world beyond those places where protests have taken place


  • #6716
    BoroMan32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Touching to see so many of these fine upstanding members of society honouring George Floyd in this way.

    https://twitter.com/Bollocks_Dogz/status/1269027016134836230


  • #6717
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Justin Credible Darts wrote: »
    Would you have done what the old guy did and approach the oncoming riot police ?
    Hit him a slap and tell him go home and watch Oprah


  • #6718
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    BoroMan32 wrote: »
    Touching to see so many of these fine upstanding members of society honouring George Floyd in this way.

    https://twitter.com/Bollocks_Dogz/status/1269027016134836230

    Fcuking scumbags.


  • #6719
    Clarence Boddiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Clarence Boddiker


    Really would make you wonder about Coronavirus...Just a couple of weeks ago staying home and social distancing was "vital to the national public health"

    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1268936285441359872


  • #6720
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    BoroMan32 wrote: »
    Touching to see so many of these fine upstanding members of society honouring George Floyd in this way.

    https://twitter.com/Bollocks_Dogz/status/1269027016134836230


    look how quiet the thread got after posting that


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  • #6721
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,887 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    He shouldn't have approached the riot police when they are screaming at everyone to move, and he should have backed off when the first cop told him and he shouldn't have been grabbing at them or whatever he was doing. They pushed him lightly and he stumbled back and unfortunately hit his head.

    I don't blame the two cops up until this point but I am.only after seeing the aftermath in which they just walk by him, wtf are they human or fcuking robots like who are they recruiting to be cops. I get that being a cop in America must absolutely suck but it seriously looked like mindless drones marching past the clearly injuries man.


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