Madeleine McCann

splinter65 wrote: »

Said he, on no evidence whatsoever, making it all up as he goes along but apparently enjoying the whole idea...

Them leaving 3 kids to fend for themselves is well documented.

Strumms wrote: »

I’d be honest, if I’m one of the friends from the getgo I’d have been saying something along the lines of, before we even left... “hey we all can take turns babysitting so you guys together can leave the kids for a few drinks together three or four nights, what do you say ? “. I

You sound like a normal well rounded individual.

What was wrong with this bunch?

Strumms wrote: »

They were extraordinarily unlucky but their carelessness, complacency and poor decision making go hand in hand with their lack of luck. In fact the above presented directly the abductor with the ability to carry out his crime...

If you open the door to the possibility of trouble, don’t be surprised if trouble walks right on in.

I’d be honest, if I’m one of the friends from the getgo I’d have been saying something along the lines of, before we even left... “hey we all can take turns babysitting so you guys together can leave the kids for a few drinks together three or four nights, what do you say ? “. If I’m Gerry and Kate I’m biting your hands off.. also I’d be a little extra insistent if they were a little extra hesitant.

You can only call them careless or complacent in light of the emergent fact that there was a child-snatching prowler in the area at the time, something which would have been unknown to the McCanns, and apparently everyone else at the time. Their main concern appeared to be that the kids would wake up and perhaps begin moving around the apartment, and that's what they had planned their evening around.

You leave your door open to trouble and the vast majority of the time, trouble does not walk in, at least not in a holiday resort like Praia de Luz, and even when it does, you don't ever think it will be in the form of a predatory peadophile prowler. More like someone coming to nick your jewelry or whatever easy valuables they can find, but they'd leave the kids be.

No parent ever let or left kids THAT age (3) out playing in the street unsupervised.

The point I was trying to make was that parents have let very young children out to play all day. Maybe not as young as 3 so much, but definitely 5 or 6, which would still be far too young to have much sense, and certainly far too young to fend off any kidnappers in the area if they were targeted. It's certainly happened to even older children, such as Johnny Gosch, one of the original milk carton kids, who was abducted at the age of 12 and apparently never seen again.

Dont be salty

Gerry Kate

Tell the truth

TheW1zard wrote: »

After looking into it im of the opinion they what done it thats all.
Is this personal for you?

Opinion is one thing, but several times today you’ve presented your opinion as fact, and ignored people who looked for clarification on things.

I didnt read your link. Listen the parents did it!

The evidence certainly doesnt point to the German peedo. It points to the McCanns.

So he is a suspect. So were the parents.
There is evidence that they had something to do with it, plenty.

Plenty of evidence they did it, absolutely none for the German.

Still waiting on this “evidence”, whenever you are ready to provide it.

But then again you also said this:

The BRITISH cops are saying it was a GERMAN, sounds like the ESTABLISHMENT have an agenda.

Good grief you don’t even know the basics. Get the atlas out there and educate yourself before posting crap.

briany wrote: »

You can only call them careless or complacent in light of the emergent fact that there was a child-snatching prowler in the area at the time, something which would have been unknown to the McCanns, and apparently everyone else at the time. Their main concern appeared to be that the kids would wake up and perhaps begin moving around the apartment, and that's what they had planned their evening around.

You leave your door open to trouble and the vast majority of the time, trouble does not walk in, at least not in a holiday resort like Praia de Luz, and even when it does, you don't ever think it will be in the form of a predatory peadophile prowler. More like someone coming to nick your jewelry or whatever easy valuables they can find, but they'd leave the kids be.



The point I was trying to make was that parents have let very young children out to play all day. Maybe not as young as 3 so much, but definitely 5 or 6, which would still be far too young to have much sense, and certainly far too young to fend off any kidnappers in the area if they were targeted. It's certainly happened to even older children, such as Johnny Gosch, one of the original milk carton kids, who was abducted at the age of 12 and apparently never seen again.

I can call them complacent by virtue that they left small children, alone, THEIR small children without their parents or any responsible adult to mind them, in an apartment complex that would have been readily accessible to maybe 100 people, strangers or maybe more.. a 5 year old and two 3 year olds, none of the three would likely to have had the capacity or capability to raise an alarm or alert neighbors... they were defenseless.

Their parents ‘checked’ on them during the course of the evening. Why ? If they had been abducted there was nothing they can do, if they had a medical event the same ! It was to reassure themselves from worry, from guilt. They were actually acutely aware they had done the wrong thing, knew it was a risk, ok a moderately small one but a risk none the less. Hence the need to check, which was to reassure only, it was simply a psychological form of self pacification.. “see them ok ! So they ARE ok and we didn’t fûck up.”... but they DID fûck up, majorly and it cost them their daughter, because they were completely complacent... saw a ‘gated’ apartment facility, a relaxing holiday location, what could go wrong ? Quite a lot, if you are careless like that, with your kids.

Doesnt take an Atlas to know what who done it lol. You're too invested, relax!

TheW1zard wrote: »

Doesnt take an Atlas to know what who done it lol. You're too invested, relax!

You should really tell the Portuguese police, Scotland Yard and now also the German police that they have the wrong man in mind and you’ve solved the whole thing from the comfort of your armchair.
I’m sure they’ll be delighted to hear about all your evidence, amazing really that 3 police forces missed all this obvious evidence for all these years and are now blaming the wrong guy.

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Lock them up !!

Yes I agree. Posters who defame should be locked up.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Has a poster on boards ever admitted they are wrong? :P


Let starts on boards and then we can judge others

The Boards Messiah

Let he who has not sinned ....

callmehal wrote: »

Did the McCanns ever admit they were wrong to leave their kids alone in unsecured accommodation while they were off eating and drinking?

Why should they? What difference would it make besides giving people on the internet even more ammo against them. I'm pretty sure they know full well if they hadnt left their kids alone then their daughter wouldn't have been taken. I'd imagine its a hard truth they have to live with for the rest of their lives. I know I'd be thinking about it and blaming myself every single day. What more do you want?

Strumms wrote: »

I can call them complacent by virtue that they left small children, alone, THEIR small children without their parents or any responsible adult to mind them, in an apartment complex that would have been readily accessible to maybe 100 people, strangers or maybe more.. a 5 year old and two 3 year olds, none of the three would likely to have had the capacity or capability to raise an alarm or alert neighbors... they were defenseless.

Their parents ‘checked’ on them during the course of the evening. Why ? If they had been abducted there was nothing they can do, if they had a medical event the same ! It was to reassure themselves from worry, from guilt. They were actually acutely aware they had done the wrong thing, knew it was a risk, ok a moderately small one but a risk none the less. Hence the need to check, which was to reassure only, it was simply a psychological form of self pacification.. “see them ok ! So they ARE ok and we didn’t fûck up.”... but they DID fûck up, majorly and it cost them their daughter, because they were completely complacent... saw a ‘gated’ apartment facility, a relaxing holiday location, what could go wrong ? Quite a lot, if you are careless like that, with your kids.

Parents will generally check in on infant children. I don't think it's a tacit admission of guilt to pop your head in on them every so many minutes as it is a desire to monitor their wellbeing while also living a life that doesn't consist of literally being by their side 24 hours a day, never sleeping, which would obviously be unlivable.

Yes, the McCanns were complacent... in regard to the idea of a child snatcher being right in their area, at just that time, willing to take his chance in the approximately 30 minutes at a time that the children were left alone, which means he may have also been actively watching and seeing how often the kids were being checked on before pouncing, but was such a possibility ever really in their head in the first place? Of all the things that happen from leaving your kids alone in the way that the McCanns did, having your child taken from right under your nose, never to be seen again, would pretty much never be one of them. Therefore, I don't think it can really be called complacent to give little or no consideration to whether one of your children will vanish off the face of the Earth if you leave them in an apartment that you're sitting less than 100 metres from.