BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

jmreire · 01-06-2020 06:17PM

26000 Elephants wrote: »

Its common enough, and certain years (2000 - 2004) its almost guaranteed. Im not sure when it was definitively solved, but 2006+ dont seem to have the issue. €750 seems average for the fix, which is fine if you price it in.

But they are an expensive car to run, even when everything works. Suspension consumables and electrics in the car can start getting very dear.

If you have the headroom in your budget to look after them they are a great car.

(sibling ran an E200 Komp from 2005 - 2018)

The brake SBC unit was problematic in that model ( w211) as well, but like the chain issue ( at about 100'000.mark ) may have been solved by then, I'm not sure. I know that at 120'000 Klms in my 2010 w212 E class, the timing chain and guides were replaced. The engine was the OM651 Diesel.

CoBo55 · 01-06-2020 07:13PM

Bandito909 wrote: »

I think I know the lad you're talking about? Had a Mondeo and now drives an Octavia?

That was some mileage that little panda done everyday. And as far as I'm aware just got traded as he wanted to go up the years a bit. Not a bother on the car. All that driving done it the world of good!

Yea that’s him, that mondeo was some pile of dung, cost him a bloody fortune. He’s on his second Octavia since that yoke.

jharr100 · 01-06-2020 08:15PM

snoopboggybog wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-clk-class-kompressor-full-service/24905201

Very tempted. reckon i could get them down to 1500.

Did a Cartell on this earlier if anyone wants to DM

selectamatic · 01-06-2020 10:50PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

1997 opel corsa low mileage 500 eur
http://www.adverts.ie/20515400

bazz26 wrote: »

That car is worth about €50 not €500.

3dr though...

Surely get €300 for it on jon44w :pac:

Duke O Smiley · 01-06-2020 11:26PM

I think if that Corsa was tidier it would be worth 3/400 quid. Bit of back to black on the trim, like of paint on the wheels and you could pull a Simon Deane special “tiny miles, two careful owners, future classic” etc

Duke O Smiley · 02-06-2020 05:40PM

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a3-2003/24851884

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Nice looking 03 A3, only tested til August (but extended til December) but a nice bit of tax til September, €875

This was a 1 owner car until a few months ago. Looks tidy, I have a bit of a soft spot for these

Mad_Mike · 02-06-2020 05:51PM

Looks very clean for a 03
Wonder why they are moving it on so soon with 3 months tax on it too

Kilboor · 02-06-2020 05:58PM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

Looks very clean for a 03
Wonder why they are moving it on so soon with 3 months tax on it too

Might have been a bangernomic purchase to tie em over until they got the car they really wanted. Hopefully that's their front garden in the pics too

Mad_Mike · 02-06-2020 06:07PM

Could possibly be something like that alright.
[EDIT]Just noticed... The tax was actually on it when they bought it. It was taxed for a year last September and changed owner in Feb this year, so it's not like they taxed it and are now moving it on, so I'd say it probably was just a stop-gap for somebody[/EDIT]

kalkat2002 · 02-06-2020 07:34PM

2007 audi a3 sportback 1350 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/20527441

Mad_Mike · 03-06-2020 01:29AM

That seems decent value for a 07 diesel too. Looks like the owner has it for a couple of years at least
Only fear here is if it's the BXE engine fitted

kalkat2002 · 03-06-2020 04:36AM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

That seems decent value for a 07 diesel too. Looks like the owner has it for a couple of years at least
Only fear here is if it's the BXE engine fitted

I had in spain a new golf v with bxe engine re-mapped for 6 years and no issues so kind of lottery...

donalh087 · 03-06-2020 09:15AM

A bit of advice? Although I pretty much know the answer........

I bought a classic bangernomics car two months ago. 05 E200 Merc, 75,000 miles for €1,600. She drove beautifully and is the lap of luxury. Rock solid and feels so safe. I love it.

Yesterday she wouldn't start and had no compression. Got her to the garage and the mechanic just rang to say the timing chain had slipped. Repair will cost €2,000.

So, what to do now? Walk away from it and say it's a lesson learnt? Or take it on the chin because I will have to pay €2,00 for a replacement anyway?

Any thoughts?

bazz26 · 03-06-2020 09:40AM

Just buy another cheap car. No way I'd be spending 2k on repairing a 15 year old car which goes against the definition of bangernomics. Timing chains are common weaknesses on those Kompressor engines.

eamonnq · 03-06-2020 09:51AM

donalh087 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/05-mercedes-e200-new-nct-01-21-low-miles-1-8/24249664

Quite tempted by this. Looks in good nick and a fair price. Any advice on what to look out for?

CharlieCroker wrote: »

They can be thirsty and make sure there's a timing chain replacement somewhere in that service history

donalh087 wrote: »

A bit of advice? Although I pretty much know the answer........

I bought a classic bangernomics car two months ago. 05 E200 Merc, 75,000 miles for €1,600. She drove beautifully and is the lap of luxury. Rock solid and feels so safe. I love it.

Yesterday she wouldn't start and had no compression. Got her to the garage and the mechanic just rang to say the timing chain had slipped. Repair will cost €2,000.

So, what to do now? Walk away from it and say it's a lesson learnt? Or take it on the chin because I will have to pay €2,00 for a replacement anyway?

Any thoughts?

Was it that one ?

donalh087 · 03-06-2020 10:06AM

Yes it was. With 75,000 miles I thought the chain was fine. Clearly not.

barry181091 · 03-06-2020 10:12AM

donalh087 wrote: »

Yes it was. With 75,000 miles I thought the chain was fine. Clearly not.

I wonder, would the previous owner have known? Not that you have any recourse, just as a matter of interest. I presume it gave no indication of failure before this!

26000 Elephants · 03-06-2020 10:23AM

There are many times where it's worth throwing a few quid to keep a decent banger going (I've even swapped a gearbox on a €350 car, but only because I had one) because you know the car and its gonna cost you money anyway to replace it.

But this is not one of them! No point in throwing €2k at a €1500 merc. I'd gladly spend €750 on the timing chain as a preventive measure, but not on a repair.

flexcon · 03-06-2020 10:27AM

donalh087 wrote: »

A bit of advice? Although I pretty much know the answer........

I bought a classic bangernomics car two months ago. 05 E200 Merc, 75,000 miles for €1,600. She drove beautifully and is the lap of luxury. Rock solid and feels so safe. I love it.

Yesterday she wouldn't start and had no compression. Got her to the garage and the mechanic just rang to say the timing chain had slipped. Repair will cost €2,000.

So, what to do now? Walk away from it and say it's a lesson learnt? Or take it on the chin because I will have to pay €2,00 for a replacement anyway?

Any thoughts?

I recently bought a Saab for really good money.

Like you, it felt great. Unfortunately - the balance shaft was kaput. Overall I spent 1300 fixing a few issues on the car

however, while I spent waaay more than I thought to fix it up, the car is now solid and will go for years.

If the rest of the car seems fine, (ask your mechanic to go over it) then pay the money and enjoy it

I know some people say it isnt worth it, but there is value to be hand in knowing that once that big bill is over - you should have a very reliable and solid car

aFlabbyPanda · 03-06-2020 11:17AM

^ what he says, I don't get the idea of taking 2k and gambling again on another car if the merc is solid other than repair suggested. I bought a 2k car before xmas and put about 1k in repairs into. At least now I know the state of the car and it should last me good few years.

bazz26 · 03-06-2020 11:19AM

donalh087 wrote: »

Yes it was. With 75,000 miles I thought the chain was fine. Clearly not.

Very likely on it's original chain so it was probably a ticking time bomb that unfortunately went off under your ownership.

barry181091 · 03-06-2020 11:24AM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

That seems decent value for a 07 diesel too. Looks like the owner has it for a couple of years at least
Only fear here is if it's the BXE engine fitted

It's a BXE alright!

selectamatic · 03-06-2020 11:26AM

The problem is though what is a man to do if more issues arise after the 2 grand engine swap? Pump more money into it?

Theres a good long list of problems someone could encounter with a 2005 e class and plenty of costly maintenance to keep on top of too.

So the main thing to note is 2 grand is very unlikely to be the end of it.

26000 Elephants · 03-06-2020 11:38AM

aFlabbyPanda wrote: »

^ what he says, I don't get the idea of taking 2k and gambling again on another car if the merc is solid other than repair suggested. I bought a 2k car before xmas and put about 1k in repairs into. At least now I know the state of the car and it should last me good few years.

I agree, it's fine putting money into a car you know will be ok. But your example of putting a grand into a €2k car is nearly the opposite of what OP will need to do. That 2 grand is most likely a secondhand engine, so you are resetting the disaster timer, not removing it. Even if that bill is for full repair of existing engine, theres a load of other issues that could arise from the damage (OP mentioned loss of compression).
That's before you factor in all the other expensive gizmos to go wrong in a 15 year merc.

It's a worthy ideal to stick with it, but it's bad bangernomics.

almostover · 03-06-2020 12:20PM

donalh087 wrote: »

A bit of advice? Although I pretty much know the answer........

I bought a classic bangernomics car two months ago. 05 E200 Merc, 75,000 miles for €1,600. She drove beautifully and is the lap of luxury. Rock solid and feels so safe. I love it.

Yesterday she wouldn't start and had no compression. Got her to the garage and the mechanic just rang to say the timing chain had slipped. Repair will cost €2,000.

So, what to do now? Walk away from it and say it's a lesson learnt? Or take it on the chin because I will have to pay €2,00 for a replacement anyway?

Any thoughts?

Get another one, preferably with the chain fixed. Keep your own as a parts car.Did this with a car I'd a minor accident in before and had cheap motoring for a few years off it as a spares car.

Mad_Mike · 03-06-2020 12:28PM

My young lad did the same thing with 3 Puntos for his first few years of driving! Free parts forever

CoBo55 · 03-06-2020 12:37PM

almostover wrote: »

Get another one, preferably with the chain fixed. Keep your own as a parts car.Did this with a car I'd a minor accident in before and had cheap motoring for a few years off it as a spares car.

Not a bad idea if you have the space....and a patient partner. Hopefully you won't end up with two cars with broken chains!!

CoBo55 · 03-06-2020 12:38PM

Mad_Mike wrote: »

My young lad did the same thing with 3 Puntos for his first few years of driving! Free parts forever

A great aul starter banger for the up and coming spanner twirler.

younggalway · 03-06-2020 02:39PM

Folks is there any free way of checking the mileage on a car? From the NCT maybe similar to MOT check you can do online? Eyeing a car on DD but want to check the mileage before calling.

colm_mcm · 03-06-2020 03:32PM

Nope.

Googling the reg can sometimes throw stuff up.
Mileage at last NCT should be on the disc. Cert should show some previous test mileages too.

Link to the ad?

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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