2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

Mehapoy · 03-06-2020 07:24AM

HDMI wrote: »

Trump didn't kill George Floyd and didn't cause the riots, no more than Obama killed Eric Garner, Michael brown, Freddy Gray, Sandra Bland, Tamir Rice.

Obama and Biden had 8 years and he still done nothing for Chicago his own district. They done nothing for prison reform nor made any difference to black unemployment.

And your second comment is just race baiting and shows your ignorance by just assuming my skin color.

You've gone from saying Obama's presidency set back race relations more than Trump has to saying Obama didn't solve the whole economic inequality issue, kinda different issues dont you think.
I'm sure you'll find the Republican racists very happy with Trump's racial views, I presume those people all out on the streets are happy Trump's administration has improved their lives so much in the last 4 years!

ExMachina1000 · 03-06-2020 07:30AM

Mehapoy wrote: »

You've gone from saying Obama's presidency set back race relations more than Trump has to saying Obama didn't solve the whole economic inequality issue, kinda different issues dont you think.
I'm sure you'll find the Republican racists very happy with Trump's racial views, I presume those people all out on the streets are happy Trump's administration has improved their lives so much in the last 4 years!

Its true though. Trump didn't kill anyone. Obama was a black president yet made zero real change. He had riots during his presidency and nothing was done.

More Americans than ever were gainfully employed under Trump before the global pandemic. Black folk included .

HDMI · 03-06-2020 07:37AM

Cody montana wrote: »

“black unemployment came under President Barack Obama, when it fell from a recession high of 16.8 percent in March 2010 to 7.8 percent in January 2017.”

Washington Post number you gave, when he took office it was 9% and with the exception of his last year he was between 16.5% - 8.5%. Mostly high through his whole presidency, as one commentator said if he was white they would have marched in the Whitehouse. That's why Trump was able to campaign for the black vote with his "you have nothing to lose' line.

Bureau of Labor figures

https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

the immortals · 03-06-2020 07:41AM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Trump has armed guards fire teargas so he can go to church now that's what i call a right wing god

Rubbish, the park police cleared the park as they had stuff thrown at them, they used smoke cannisters which is harmless, they had no idea trump was going to the church, you anti trumpers are easily led and will believe anything you're told if it's orange man bad,

HDMI · 03-06-2020 07:41AM

Mehapoy wrote: »

You've gone from saying Obama's presidency set back race relations more than Trump has to saying Obama didn't solve the whole economic inequality issue, kinda different issues dont you think.
I'm sure you'll find the Republican racists very happy with Trump's racial views, I presume those people all out on the streets are happy Trump's administration has improved their lives so much in the last 4 years!

Why do we always hear Republican rascists when the Democrats are the Party of slavery and have some of the worst race baiters in their ranks.

Obama solved nothing, he had every opportunity but it suits Democrats to keep their big cities with really poor neighborhoods.

Cody montana · 03-06-2020 08:25AM

HDMI wrote: »

Why do we always hear Republican rascists when the Democrats are the Party of slavery and have some of the worst race baiters in their ranks.

Obama solved nothing, he had every opportunity but it suits Democrats to keep their big cities with really poor neighborhoods.

Why do black people mostly vote democrats so?

HDMI · 03-06-2020 08:35AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Why do black people mostly vote democrats so?

Lincoln was a Republican, the Democrats were the plantation owners in the south. I assume the change started as a result of the great depression. But you will still find links with the Clinton's and David Duke an old KKK member, even Biden has been photographed with them.

Not sure why, but apparently the trend is for younger blacks to vote Republican now.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

Cody montana · 03-06-2020 08:43AM

HDMI wrote: »

Lincoln was a Republican, the Democrats were the plantation owners in the south. I assume the change started as a result of the great depression. But you will still find links with the Clinton's and David Duke an old KKK member, even Biden has been photographed with them.

Not sure why, but apparently the trend is for younger blacks to vote Republican now.

https://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/

From 2008?

HDMI · 03-06-2020 08:49AM

Cody montana wrote: »

From 2008?

You asked me why Black people vote for Democrats and I gave you a link. I thought you were asking about the history of it, if you want current reasons I'm sure you can do some searching.

03-06-2020 08:50AM

I can see young black voters rushing to vote for Trump alright...

duploelabs · 03-06-2020 08:53AM

HDMI wrote: »

You asked me why Black people vote for Democrats and I gave you a link. I thought you were asking about the history of it, if you want current reasons I'm sure you can do some searching.

When you're asking for someone else to prove your point rather than backing up your own statement then your argument is flabby at best

03-06-2020 08:54AM

HDMI wrote: »

You asked me why Black people vote for Democrats and I gave you a link. I thought you were asking about the history of it, if you want current reasons I'm sure you can do some searching.

Imagine he's referring to younger black voters voting GOP. I can't see that trend still being there given the drastic changes in the 12 years since.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 09:00AM

duploelabs wrote: »

When you're asking for someone else to prove your point rather than backing up your own statement then your argument is flabby at best

I had no point to prove, black people generally vote Democrat but they previously voted Republican. It was a history based question with an answer going back to the 1930's.

Brian? · 03-06-2020 09:01AM

dark crystal wrote: »

If this is what dementia looks like...I dunno what to tell you. Great, unifying speech from Biden here. Sounds like a president should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2aWDG87nJo

I’m waiting for the slo mo version to make him look confused. That’s he real evidence of his “dementia”.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 09:06AM

This is an interesting read, blacks are conservative Democrats that vote as a block and if they are annoyed at the Democrat candidate they just don't bother voting at all.

https://press.princeton.edu/ideas/why-are-blacks-democrats

Then there's the peer pressure view

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-so-many-black-voters-are-democrats-even-when-they-arent-liberal/

Sheep_shear · 03-06-2020 09:08AM

I'm still astonished that after 4 years of prep, the Democrats ended up putting forward Joe Biden. What a mad show the US is.

03-06-2020 09:36AM

Says alot for a person when they are using a brain disease as a slur.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 09:37AM

Sheep_shear wrote: »

I'm still astonished that after 4 years of prep, the Democrats ended up putting forward Joe Biden. What a mad show the US is.

When you see what was on the debate stage with him it's easy to see why he won. It was like a game of who can promise the most, Joe was just dopey and pretty much acted as if he was President before and not Obama.

Boggles · 03-06-2020 09:48AM

Sheep_shear wrote: »

I'm still astonished that after 4 years of prep, the Democrats ended up putting forward Joe Biden. What a mad show the US is.

They could run shít on a stick against Trump.

The Dotard is not getting reelected.

The latest Fox News poll had Biden +8.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 09:51AM

Boggles wrote: »

They could run shít on a stick against Trump.

The Dotard is not getting reelected.

The latest Fox News poll had Biden +8.

How did them polls work out for Hillary?

Polls are crap over here because no one wants to acknowledge publicly that they will vote for Trump so the polls are messed up.

Boggles · 03-06-2020 09:57AM

HDMI wrote: »

How did them polls work out for Hillary?

Polls are crap over here because no one wants to acknowledge publicly that they will vote for Trump so the polls are messed up.

That was 2016 when he was draining the swamp, etc.

He is a busted flush, he is finished.

Joe Biden Outperforming Hillary Clinton in More Than a Dozen Key Swing States Critical to Trump's 2016 Victory

Brian? · 03-06-2020 10:04AM

HDMI wrote: »

The polls are already at odds with each other, I believe an ABC poll earlier today put Biden only 4 points ahead. Another poll yesterday said 10 points but really polls mean nothing over here, especially after the last election.

A republican flipping a seat in central LA the first since 1998 has to scare the Democrats. Not sure if you remember Reagan in his later years when his mind was going. I think Biden is already loosing his marbles so it will be about who takes the presidency when he can no longer fill the position. Hard to believe the best the Democrats have is Joe Biden, to me it's all about who he chooses are his running mate if not Trump is a shoe in.

Just on the GOP “flipping a seat”. That district was historically a solid GOP seat and Trump won the district in 2016. So it wasn’t really a big deal at all.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 10:05AM

Boggles wrote: »

That was 2016 when he was draining the swamp, etc.

He is a busted flush, he is finished.

Joe Biden Outperforming Hillary Clinton in More Than a Dozen Key Swing States Critical to Trump's 2016 Victory

When the debates start it will be just Joe and no cue cards, no teleprompter and no wife to save him from himself. Trump will destroy him, Biden is a very weak candidate. Everyone says take the polls with a pinch of salt.

duploelabs · 03-06-2020 10:08AM

HDMI wrote: »

When the debates start it will be just Joe and no cue cards, no teleprompter and no wife to save him from himself. Trump will destroy him, Biden is a very weak candidate. Everyone says take the polls with a pinch of salt.

An 8 point lead is more than a pinch of salt

Podge_irl · 03-06-2020 10:09AM

HDMI wrote: »

How did them polls work out for Hillary?

Polls are crap over here because no one wants to acknowledge publicly that they will vote for Trump so the polls are messed up.

I don't know how often this "the polls were wrong" narrative needs to be corrected, but let's go one more time.

Clinton won the national vote by a margin fairly well indicated by the polls. The polls were within the margin of error for the main swing states and Trump was an underdog but, for example, 538 had him at 30% which is obviously bad but winning something you have a 1 in 3 chance of winning isn't exactly mindblowing.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 10:10AM

Brian? wrote: »

Just on the GOP “flipping a seat”. That district was historically a solid GOP seat and Trump won the district in 2016. So it wasn’t really a big deal at all.

Historically? You mean 30 years ago, there is no way the Democrats felt that seat was at risk. California has been Democrat a long time now, honestly I imagined Republicans losing seats, may still happen though.

Podge_irl · 03-06-2020 10:12AM

HDMI wrote: »

When the debates start it will be just Joe and no cue cards, no teleprompter and no wife to save him from himself. Trump will destroy him, Biden is a very weak candidate. Everyone says take the polls with a pinch of salt.

Trump won't "destroy" anyone. He will incoherently insult and demean Biden with some catchy refrains thrown in and those predisposed to him will decide he won. It's not a debate to Trump, its throwing schoolyard insults.

It doesn't matter who was the democratic candidate - you can not win when the other side is essentially playing a completely different game.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 10:13AM

Podge_irl wrote: »

I don't know how often this "the polls were wrong" narrative needs to be corrected, but let's go one more time.

Clinton won the national vote by a margin fairly well indicated by the polls. The polls were within the margin of error for the main swing states and Trump was an underdog but, for example, 538 had him at 30% which is obviously bad but winning something you have a 1 in 3 chance of winning isn't exactly mindblowing.

Seriously, Trump winning wasn't mind-blowing?

Boggles · 03-06-2020 10:14AM

HDMI wrote: »

When the debates start it will be just Joe and no cue cards, no teleprompter and no wife to save him from himself. Trump will destroy him, Biden is a very weak candidate. Everyone says take the polls with a pinch of salt.

Nah he is finished and he knows it, that's why the desperation levels have gone up.

The cretin fumbling with a bible outside a church like a confused simpleton rocking from side to side sums it up.

The same fella who raw dogs porn stars while his wife is at home looking after their infant.

Mail voting is all fraudulent - it isn't obviously. He is laying out the excuses to why he will lose all ready.

The Trump Cheer Leaders bleating the economy would get him re elected.

The official unemployment rate is now 14.7%, the worst since records began. A decade’s worth of job gains have been wiped out, and most economists believe the real figure is higher and expect unemployment to rise to well above 20% in the coming months.

He is done, and I would suspect clambering for reasons to drop out.

HDMI · 03-06-2020 10:17AM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Trump won't "destroy" anyone. He will incoherently insult and demean Biden with some catchy refrains thrown in and those predisposed to him will decide he won. It's not a debate to Trump, its throwing schoolyard insults.

It doesn't matter who was the democratic candidate - you can not win when the other side is essentially playing a completely different game.

Sounds like politics and seems like you accept Biden will lose just because he won't be able to keep up. I feel bad for him the Democrats really should have got a stronger candidate.

2020 US Presidential Election (aka: The Trump Coronation)

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