George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

Anyone who hasn't seen LA 92, the documentary, please check it out if you can. First of all, it is a gripping film made up entirely of footage from the events leading up to the LA Riots, the riots themselves and the aftermath. But also, you can see the parallels with the current situation. One thing that comes immediately to mind is that during the initial stages of the protest, you had this one organiser walking around pleading for non-violence. He obviously knew that allowing a riot to happen would solve nothing and only really serve to undermine their cause.

But then you see the inevitable gang of knuckleheads just ruin it everyone else. For a portion of the protestors it became about, "Let's f*ck up white people who drive past! (but let blacks and latinos through)", and then a group of them smashed into Tom's liquor store.

And then you had this scene, a black man, a store owner, who had his store destroyed by people from his own neighbourhood.

ToddDameron wrote: »

The autopsy results have certainly complicated matters.

How? A man is filmed kneeling on a mans neck until he passes out and dies while all the time the poor man says he can’t breathe?
Not an open and shut case?

https://twitter.com/WeAreAPW/status/1266646355218436097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266650267505827841&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231266650267505827841Large pile of bricks conveniently left on the street ...Hmmmmm

SSeanSS wrote: »

"Unrest sweeps US with protests over black man's death" - headline on rte website. Something doesn't feel right about that headline. Think they could have at least named George Floyd in the headline.

I think it's actually bigger than that. There's also Ahmaud Arbery's killing (not police) and the killing of the paramedic in Louisville when police raided the wrong house. It's the combination of all three together.

I've just warched videos on reddit of police hitting journalists with rubber bullets other spraying pepper spray indiscriminately out a police car window at people peacefully standing there, a cameraman showing his camera with a bullethole, and plainclothes police pretending to be press. The list of police brutality seems endless, even accounting for the fact its a big country with a lot of cameras to see everything. Here's a white man from 2011 who was killed...

https://i.redd.it/iekmwrle4u151.jpg

And of course there is proper lawlessness, looting and wanton destruction of property going along with genuine protesting. It's a situation that quickly needs cool heads before it gets worse. Hopefully they find some.

ToddDameron wrote: »

The knee didn't cause him to pass out, he died from a heart attack. Again, I'm not justifying anything, just saying that the defence is going to try to use this to get a more favourable outcome. The knee being the cause or being or the knee making things worse are unfortunately two different things.

Would he have died if the cop hadn’t put his knee on his neck for 8 minutes?

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WeAreAPW/status/1266646355218436097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1266650267505827841&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2F2%2Ftwitter.min.html%231266650267505827841Large pile of bricks conveniently left on the street ...Hmmmmm

Could it have been someone like this in DC?

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Jesus that picture is heartbreaking

Like something an animal would do

ToddDameron wrote: »

The knee didn't cause him to pass out, he died from a heart attack. Again, I'm not justifying anything, just saying that the defence is going to try to use this to get a more favourable outcome. The knee being the cause or being or the knee making things worse are unfortunately two different things.

The knee was at the very minimum a contributing factor - The combined effects of being restrained by police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death. These are only preliminary findings - there will be a toxicology report and i'm sure a second and third medical opinion. Way too early to say he "died from a heart attack" stop trying to minimise what happened to him - this is part of the problem. not only in american society but the world. people minimising behaviour so that it doesnt seems so bad or that they can rationalise it in their head. no justification. BUT FOR the knee - the man would be alive. The world saw the video of the cruelty and inhumanity towards another fellow human. who do you stand with? I stand with George Floyd.

Patrick2010 wrote: »

How? A man is filmed kneeling on a mans neck until he passes out and dies while all the time the poor man says he can’t breathe?
Not an open and shut case?

Nothing in the law is ever open and shut....that is half the bloody problem

Red herrings and refuting and lying and weaseling and dismissing....

alchemist33 wrote: »

I think it's actually bigger than that. There's also Ahmaud Arbery's killing (not police) and the killing of the paramedic in Louisville when police raided the wrong house. It's the combination of all three together.

I've just warched videos on reddit of police hitting journalists with rubber bullets other spraying pepper spray indiscriminately out a police car window at people peacefully standing there, a cameraman showing his camera with a bullethole, and plainclothes police pretending to be press. The list of police brutality seems endless, even accounting for the fact its a big country with a lot of cameras to see everything. Here's a white man from 2011 who was killed...

https://i.redd.it/iekmwrle4u151.jpg

And of course there is proper lawlessness, looting and wanton destruction of property going along with genuine protesting. It's a situation that quickly needs cool heads before it gets worse. Hopefully they find some.

+ arresting a black reporter for doing his job. It was a powderkeg and through repeated incompetence recently it has unsuprisingly now gone off.