AE911 truth vs Mick West ( Iron Microspheres)

Overheal wrote: »

"It is shown that the cylindrical iron and carbon–steel specimens of diameters 1.5 and 3 mm ignite in oxygen at the moment the oxide film loses its protective properties, supposedly, as a result of melting of its main component (FeO) at 1644 K. The ignition temperature does not depend on the oxygen pressure (in the range 0.2—20 MPa). The ignition is preceded by substantial (about 100 K) self–heating of a specimen owing to the heat released upon oxidation of the metal. A carbon–steel foil ignites in oxygen (0.14—0.6 MPa) according to the Semenov—Frank–Kamenetskii mechanism at an initial surface temperature not lower than 1233 K."

Iron oxide melting temperature?

Overheal wrote: »

What about it?

It ignites
It is shown that the cylindrical iron and carbon–steel specimens of diameters 1.5 and 3 mm ignite in oxygen at the moment the oxide film loses its protective properties

Only when this happens
supposedly, as a result of melting of its main component (FeO)

What was causing the Iron oxide to melt?
What temp does Iron oxide melt at

Overheal wrote: »

In the WTC, iron oxide sheathing is easily unseated by the kinematics of a building crashing down. Very similar to striking steel with flint, but really steel and other objects crashing into more steel. The experimenters in this paper did not introduce any kinematic effects.

Iron oxide can't change to Molten Iron this way. It is game over if it could! Reduction would have to occur here first.

Fe spheres found are elemental Iron previously Molten. Steel explantation does not make sense either, its an alloy mixed with other elements, impure and
not 100 percent Iron.

King Mob wrote: »

Cheerful. They didn't find 100% pure iron. Iron, when it's exposed to air forms iron oxide.
No sample of iron left out in open air is 100% pure.

And remember, they didn't find aluminium oxide. So there was no thermite or nanothermite.

I fairly certain you argue over the word during and dispute its meaning

They clearly say here the Iron melted inside the building. And particles of Iron (elemental formed)

Not after or before the event.

Overheal wrote: »

He didn’t say before, during, or after. What are you talking about now? You appear to be arguing a straw man out of nowhere.

Reality.
During their toxicological study of the WTC dust, the RJ Lee Group found that up to 6% of the weight of the dust was composed of previously molten iron microspheres.

Kingmob
Has a different reality, they formed after the event. He pushes experiments here that don't account for the weight here.

Is steel and flint a viable theory? For you guys it is.

Overheal wrote: »

If I take 2 pieces of steel, or iron, and strike them against each other: I get sparks, ie. These molten spheres. Plenty of iron interacted with other iron when the building collapsed. Oh, and craptons of concrete, which will also do the trick.

Not surprisingly these are also formed when iron workers are cutting the steel, with torches, with angle grinders, etc etc such as they wer[IMG][/IMG]e for days and weeks following at ground zero.

This a strawman the spheres were in the dust after the collapse.
During the event outlined here.

Outline it clearly here again in the paper.
Common origin, it was not contaminated by workers later.
The event was the collapse of the buildings on 9/11

King Mob wrote: »

But one thing the study does say is that there was no aluminium oxide. Therefore it disproves your theory

Do you think they poured the powder on the columns?
How was it kept in the Harrit study.
What would happen to the Al+ Iron oxide when ignited?

I show you how i know kingmob RJ Lee blog post.

The collapse of the World Trade Center Towers following the catastrophic events of 9/11 produced a dust cloud that covered much of lower Manhattan. Thousands of private and public buildings were contaminated by the dust. Building owners in the vicinity of the collapse, worried about environmental impact to their damaged buildings, retained RJ Lee Group to assess the situation. A major objective of the study was to establish a set of baseline conditions to determine which components of the WTC dust were sufficiently above typical background dust levels in New York City so a quantitative signature could be developed. This signature would then be used to differentiate the structural and environmental impact of the WTC event on these buildings and to determine the appropriate remediation method.

We began by designing an overall comprehensive environmental program to manage the evolving studies. The plan included both a site-specific Health & Safety Plan (HASP) as well as site monitoring programs to protect both worker and community health. Next, we concentrated on assessing the damage impact of potential fall-out contaminants such as fuel oil, diesel fuel, particulates, asbestos, heavy metals, PCBs, PNAs and dioxins. The enormity of the task and the volume of samples anticipated required strict attention to recording details. To ensure these studies were executed properly, we developed customized software applications for the Personal Data Assistants (PDAs) we used to record our findings during sample collection, visual assessments, and other field activities. Using PDAs and customizable software, we increased the efficiency of field operations, minimized data entry errors, and streamlined the processing of more than 100,000 samples collected over a three-year period.

This part the confirmation.
Based upon these studies, we developed what is commonly known as the “WTC Dust Signature.” This signature demonstrated the unique characteristics of the finely pulverized dust and chemicals resulting from the WTC event and was used to indicate areas of impact in affected buildings.

RJ Lee Group also served as the lead scientific management team, supervising subcontractors including architects, engineers, toxicologists, analytical laboratories, and other scientific experts. We also established routine ongoing communication with the U.S. EPA and New York City & State officials to ensure acceptance of procedures, protocols, and transmittal of our findings. The resulting reports became the basis for the EPA’s ongoing remediation programs for buildings impacted by the WTC event.

To this day, RJ Lee Group’s studies represent the most comprehensive environmental impact studies ever performed in Class-A building structures and serve as a basis for catastrophic event response efforts where environmental damage is being evaluated. The resulting WTC Signature document was used as evidence in civil litigation and entered the public record via the judicial process.

King Mob wrote: »

None of that addresses any of the points we're discussing.

What are you showing?

Huh?

Based upon these studies, we developed what is commonly known as the “WTC Dust Signature.” This signature demonstrated the unique characteristics of the finely pulverized dust and chemicals resulting from the WTC event and was used to indicate areas of impact in affected buildings.