Amazon, Jeff Bezos and Billionaires, we're through the looking glass people!

completedit wrote: »

I believe those working for Amazon should receive a fairer slice of the pie. The gap between CEO and worker has sky rocketed since the 1980s'. We are on course to a new feudalism. I can like the products and even admire Bezos, but how come a man who has stated 'there isn't enough philanthropic efforts in the world for me to spend my money on' can't provide a better income for the people who work for him who contribute to the success of the company.

I am sure shareholders would disagree many who probably work there too.
It is a fantastic company run by a visionary.
Will only have these major companies succeed in the US europe is stuck in a socialist quagmire

Earthhorse wrote: »

The issue I have with companies like Amazon, Google, Apple etc. all of whose products I use and enjoy is that they don't pay their fair share of tax.

If they did that I might be happier with the inordinate amounts of money they make.

Yeah the tech companies get a really easy ride and its governments like our own who facilitate it. They're not happy paying a bargain 12.5% and reduce it down to just a fraction of that.

Hopefully something is done on an EU level, its wrong for society that you have these companies making billions and paying 1 or 2% in taxes. In Adam Smiths The Wealth of Nations one of his canons of taxation is the principle of equity and fairness, the idea that everyone pay their fare share. I dont think anyone could argue that tech companies paying 1 or 2% is anywhere near a level of fairness for society.

overkill602 wrote: »

I am sure shareholders would disagree many who probably work there too.
It is a fantastic company run by a visionary.
Will only have these major companies succeed in the US europe is stuck in a socialist quagmire

A "visionary"?

He's a bloke who, in some capacity, started selling stuff on the Internet instead of physical shops. That's it.

Sure, there are a lot of difficulties to overcome, logistics etc. But the root of the idea is simple as muck.

Same with your man and PayPal. A convenient way to pay for goods over the Internet. That's it.

That guy from Apple that was supposedly a super genius for "inventing" the iphone/I pod or whatever. It was the thousands of nameless people that worked for him that actually made something.

Then they become billionaires and throw their money into very expensive ideas like space rockets. Do they have a single breeze about building space rockets? No.

Check it out. I'm going to throw 2% of my near limitless money into building cities under the sea. I'm a visionary, you see

A bloke that can accurately forsee and calculate the science of space like Einstein is a visionary. These mega-wealthy single-idea people above are just "right place, right time" people.

If amazon didn't take off, another company would have taken its place almost immediately. Whereas the likes of Einstein may never be repeated.

"visionaries" these people are not

Gradius wrote: »

A "visionary"?

He's a bloke who, in some capacity, started selling stuff on the Internet instead of physical shops. That's it.

Sure, there are a lot of difficulties to overcome, logistics etc. But the root of the idea is simple as muck.

Same with your man and PayPal. A convenient way to pay for goods over the Internet. That's it.

That guy from Apple that was supposedly a super genius for "inventing" the iphone/I pod or whatever. It was the thousands of nameless people that worked for him that actually made something.

Then they become billionaires and throw their money into very expensive ideas like space rockets. Do they have a single breeze about building space rockets? No.

Check it out. I'm going to throw 2% of my near limitless money into building cities under the sea. I'm a visionary, you see

A bloke that can accurately forsee and calculate the science of space like Einstein is a visionary. These mega-wealthy single-idea people above are just "right place, right time" people.

If amazon didn't take off, another company would have taken its place almost immediately. Whereas the likes of Einstein may never be repeated.

"visionaries" these people are not

If he didn't invent it someone else would of. Yes but nobody else did think of it. If they did we wouldn't be talking about others

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

If he didn't invent it someone else would of. Yes but nobody else did think of it. If they did we wouldn't be talking about others

Try speaking English.

One thing all these massive companies have in common,is how they treat the people lower down working for them, usually terribly. It's one thing I don't understand,you have billions you won't ever spend,you could help your employees have a better life without any impact on your own..but instead,you try take more from them..

Psychopathic.

Customers have got a bit myopic about getting everything at the lowest possible price as quickly as possible. The people manufacturing and distributing these products are the ones are paying for your discount. I try buy stuff locally off independent retailers as much as I can. These large corporations would soon change their tune if a decent proportion of people stopped frequenting them because of employee conditions.

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Customers have got a bit myopic about getting everything at the lowest possible price as quickly as possible. The people manufacturing and distributing these products are the ones are paying for your discount. I try buy stuff locally off independent retailers as much as I can. These large corporations would soon change their tune if a decent proportion of people stopped frequenting them because of employee conditions.

That kind of measure has never done much for employees' rights. Labour law and unionisation is the answer. If labour laws are not up to the task of keeping Amazon workers from having to piss into bottles to make their quotas, they need updating.

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It’s goddamned unAmerican not to profit from a national crisis.

Not just American. Look at how much Irish retailers are selling hand sanitisers and other cleaning products.

overkill602 wrote: »

anzn discussed on a hard left board can only be negative, there european centre is in the UK don't think they would be welcome here our sw pays more ireland's biggest alternative employer

Boards is hard left :rolleyes: And Amazon are coming here, they are currently looking to find a warehouse on the edge of the M50 to set up their first Irish distribution centre. Thats aside from the 1,000 odd employees they already have working here near Baggot Street.

Muahahaha wrote: »

And Amazon are coming here, they are currently looking to find a warehouse on the edge of the M50 to set up their first Irish distribution centre. .

They bought the jacobs site on the Belgard road a few years ago and have the place nearly ready from the look of it.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Should the people that make the laws not give workers better rights?
Maybe Donald Trump doesnt actually care about people after all.........

He cares about people all right.

People in his own social circle.

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

They bought the jacobs site on the Belgard road a few years ago and have the place nearly ready from the look of it.

What year was that? I was just going by this article here from last December which said that they are currently scouting locations for a distribution warehouse around the m50.

Amazon is seeking its first warehouse in Ireland to fulfil orders currently shipped from the UK, according to sources. The move comes as UK prime minister Boris Johnson prepares to lead the UK out of the European Union.

The online retailer is scouting sites with about 100,000 sq ft (9,290 sq m) of space and has evaluated options on the outskirts of Dublin, the sources said. No deal has been agreed and there’s no certainty any lease will be signed, they added.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/amazon-seeking-first-warehouse-in-ireland-to-fulfil-orders-shipped-from-uk-1.4120153