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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • #4922
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maccored wrote: »
    hang on .. on one hand you are saying FF and FG dont need to talk to SF, but yet SF HAVE TO talk to the PBP.

    Make up your mind.

    "Vote left all the way" and all that stuff.


  • #4923
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    maccored wrote: »
    hang on .. on one hand you are saying FF and FG dont need to talk to SF, but yet SF HAVE TO talk to the PBP.

    Make up your mind.


    Maybe you have a better grasp on the english language to me, but I don't see anything in this post about saying SF have to do anything

    As you like bold and captials like my 6 year old, can you point it out to me please?

    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Its pure PR...MLM knows she cant go on TV complaining about FF/FG when the PBP are saying SF have no interest in talking to them.



    Shows as usual it is all a pack of lies coming from SF


  • #4924
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,941 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, both the IMC and the Irish government changed their stance within a week once further information became available and it was clear that IRA and other Sinn Fein sources were unfairly blackening the name of Paul Quinn.
    Have you a link to where the IMC changed their stance?

    Read Bertie's statement and he doesn't say, in a carefully worded statement, that he received different information.
    Bertie wrote:
    "I shared certain information about the lines of inquiry being pursued and in speaking about criminality I was responding to questions asked on whether the murder had a political motivation or implications for the Northern Ireland Executive. I did not in any way intend to make an issue out of the character of Paul Quinn and I am happy to make that clear to the House."
    It also begs the question, that even if true, why people on social media just dismiss Paul Quinn's murder as inconsequential because they support the belief that he somehow deserved it. Quite disgusting.

    Not aware of anyone here of that opinion.


  • #4925
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,239 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Not aware of anyone here of that opinion.

    It was implied above in the post by Armaghlad- assuming that another poster did not care about the death of Paul Quinn.
    in other words people of the mindset of armaghlad demean deaths/appalling actions that does not suit his republican agenda. The implication being that Paul Quinn, Maria Cahill deserved it and does not matter.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #4926
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Are you seriously going to ignore the colourful array of chancers, fraudsters, bullies and loons that have repped for most if not all of the parties of this state at various times?
    :)

    Still it’s okay for scum like that to be representing your party. Nice


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  • #4927
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Here we go again. If ANY other party member today in DE was involved in protection of murderers , protection of pedophiles and rapists they would NOT have a political career. The list of things wrong is at times incredulous as to how they are left lie.

    1.1m of the elecorate in the ROI still care. That particular poster obviously cares. I care which is the main reason I voted for parties which would not go in with SF.

    You maybe hardened to mayhem, murder, robbery and protection of pedophiles as a hard-nosed dyed in the wool republican from Armagh.

    But the majority of those outside that bubble are people who do not switch on an off thier human decency when it suits. There are only so many times the decent people of Ireland can mention such problems with SF as they brush it off or demean death, rape, child rape and injustice and so on - without even a nod towards justice. But it seems the decent human beings of Ireland have to continue as it is the only way for SF to move forward with decency

    Your post above is like someone saying glibly in the covid19 thread "and I suppose you care about 1458 deaths in the ROI?"

    You obviously have a heart of stone not to care about the loss of life, and the loss of life of innocents.

    Maybe you only cared when it served the republican cause like in 1972 Bloody Sunday? Did those lives matter?

    Why not light yourself on fire as statement outside DE (in protest against no SF in government) if you value life that lowly. Like that Buddhist monk did? It should kill any potential covid19 as well and make it handy for the mortuary.



    Or do you value your own life more highly than others?
    You could become a republican martyr.
    They might sing songs about you.

    Of course it is much safer for a 'tough republican lad' like you, to try and show are hardened and tough you are on a message forum

    "tough republican lad"
    Probably flaunts around with his Celtic jersey and Easter Lily to get a bit of street cred


  • #4928
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,941 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    It was implied above in the post by Armaghlad- assuming that another poster did not care about the death of Paul Quinn.
    in other words people of the mindset of armaghlad demean deaths/appalling actions that does not suit his republican agenda. The implication being that Paul Quinn, Maria Cahill deserved it and does not matter.

    There is routine victim exploitation engaged in on here by the usual crew. They don't care about victims...they care about selective victims.

    Jean McConville, Garda McCabe, Maria Caihill, Paul Quinn and a select other few are used again and again for their emotive value and primarily for their links to SF.

    None of the 1000's of other victims, men women and a not insignificant amount of children get a look in.

    Nothing demeans victims more than that kind of use, they are picked up and dropped only when it is politically expedient to do it. Shameful behaviour and not the first time it has been pointed out here.


  • #4929
    maccored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,786 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Maybe you have a better grasp on the english language to me, but I don't see anything in this post about saying SF have to do anything

    As you like bold and captials like my 6 year old, can you point it out to me please?

    Capitals? Maybe your 6 year old can spell better?

    The whole point of his post was that SF was engaged in 'pure PR' - for acting like FF and FG.


  • #4930
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Edgware wrote: »
    What rubbish are you spouting about a second election. Both Martin and Varadkar ran second candidates in their constituency but "big surplus" fishwife wanted the headline for herself

    The fishwife has made some hash of this election result. Could she have played it any worse.

    So much for ‘winning’ the election...


  • #4931
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    It was implied above in the post by Armaghlad- assuming that another poster did not care about the death of Paul Quinn.
    in other words people of the mindset of armaghlad demean deaths/appalling actions that does not suit his republican agenda. The implication being that Paul Quinn, Maria Cahill deserved it and does not matter.
    Sorry, I sincerely apologise for not thinking some anonymous west Brit poster on an internet forum was being genuine in his sorrow at the death of a 21 year old from the north that he never knew or met.

    I certainly don’t believe for one second that he or anyone else who would be of a similar west-Brit mindset would ever use the death of an individual for political football - especially not on a thread about Sinn Fein.

    I’m now of the firm belief that anyone who mentioned Paul Quinn’s murder on this thread did so merely because they are supporters of unsolved murders in the north and absolutely nothing to do with where the murder took place and who was allegedly involved.


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  • #4932
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Sorry, I sincerely apologise for not thinking some anonymous west Brit poster on an internet forum was being genuine in his sorrow at the death of a 21 year old from the north that he never knew or met.

    I certainly don’t believe for one second that he or anyone else who would be of a similar west-Brit mindset would ever use the death of an individual for political football - especially not on a thread about Sinn Fein.

    I’m now of the firm belief that anyone who mentioned Paul Quinn’s murder on this thread did so merely because they are supporters of unsolved murders in the north and absolutely nothing to do with where the murder took place and who was allegedly involved.

    ‘West brit’. Classic.


  • #4933
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    all about the mane wrote: »
    ‘West brit’. Classic.

    Shinner dictionary:

    West Brit. . Tick
    Free State. Tick.
    Bomber Harris. Tick
    Mehole. Tick
    Denny. Tick


    Just include one in any sentence and that counts as political argument.


  • #4934
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    armaghlad wrote: »
    Sorry, I sincerely apologise for not thinking some anonymous west Brit poster on an internet forum was being genuine in his sorrow at the death of a 21 year old from the north that he never knew or met.

    I certainly don’t believe for one second that he or anyone else who would be of a similar west-Brit mindset would ever use the death of an individual for political football - especially not on a thread about Sinn Fein.

    I’m now of the firm belief that anyone who mentioned Paul Quinn’s murder on this thread did so merely because they are supporters of unsolved murders in the north and absolutely nothing to do with where the murder took place and who was allegedly involved.

    ‘West brit’. Classic.


  • #4935
    armaghlad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    all about the mane wrote: »
    ‘West brit’. Classic.
    GRMA


  • #4936
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,941 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Edgware wrote: »
    Shinner dictionary:

    West Brit. . Tick
    Free State. Tick.
    Bomber Harris. Tick
    Mehole. Tick
    Denny. Tick


    Just include one in any sentence and that counts as political argument.

    And the anti Shinners don't have a dictionary...of course they don't, pure as the driven snow. :)


  • #4937
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Edgware wrote: »
    Shinner dictionary:

    West Brit. . Tick
    Free State. Tick.
    Bomber Harris. Tick
    Mehole. Tick
    Denny. Tick


    Just include one in any sentence and that counts as political argument.

    You've only ever heard SF voters use mehole, Mary loo, Jurry, Norn Iron, shinners etc.? You don't visit boards much do you?

    TBF, West Brit would be a fair comment/label for Varadkar and Flanagan.


  • #4938
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    And the anti Shinners don't have a dictionary...of course they don't, pure as the driven snow. :)

    I would call it anti the general public, if they don't support FG. By their logic if you throw the Greens a vote you must be a crusty with dreads who uses wind powered trousers, (it's the all bean diet).


  • #4939
    Ballso
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    all about the mane wrote: »
    ‘West brit’. Classic.

    Only Shinners are truly Irish see. And they wonder why people keep comparing them to the other populist nationalist movements


  • #4940
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    So much anger on this thread from Francie, Matt Barrett and the lads. Steaming almost coming out their virtual ears.

    Very amusing to read.


  • #4941
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Ballso wrote: »
    Only Shinners are truly Irish see. And they wonder why people keep comparing them to the other populist nationalist movements

    SF does not own the idea, culture, heritage of Ireland or Irishness. Myself and Enda Kenny would like to see a united Ireland. The point is the Fine Gael party and it's 'ideology', Belfast being overseas, nostalgic for the Tans and the Empire days, would suit the kind of person one might refer to as a west brit. That has nothing to do with SF or the Wolfe Tones for that matter.
    an Irish person who is perceived as being anglophilic in matters of culture or politics. West Britain is a description of Ireland emphasising it as under British influence.

    If that's not wanting to commemorate the RIC/Tans, using the same election strategists as the British Tories, having the same disdain for the general public as the Tories and referring to Belfast as over seas I'm Eoin O'Duffy.


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  • #4942
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    maccored wrote: »
    Capitals? Maybe your 6 year old can spell better?

    The whole point of his post was that SF was engaged in 'pure PR' - for acting like FF and FG.




    Wow....burn :P


    Still no idea what you are talking about.....


  • #4943
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,941 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Bowie wrote: »



    If that's not wanting to commemorate the RIC/Tans, using the same election strategists as the British Tories, having the same disdain for the general public as the Tories and referring to Belfast as over seas I'm Eoin O'Duffy.

    Not to mention some of them strategically using their fellow Irish men and women in NI for party political purposes. One minute lecturing them on democracy, the next excluding their political representatives.
    Exactly what Varadkar did in the Dáil and on the Kenny show.
    His mask has slipped off completely.


  • #4944
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bowie wrote: »
    SF does not own the idea, culture, heritage of Ireland or Irishness. Myself and Enda Kenny would like to see a united Ireland. The point is the Fine Gael party and it's 'ideology', Belfast being overseas, nostalgic for the Tans and the Empire days, would suit the kind of person one might refer to as a west brit. That has nothing to do with SF or the Wolfe Tones for that matter.



    If that's not wanting to commemorate the RIC/Tans, using the same election strategists as the British Tories, having the same disdain for the general public as the Tories and referring to Belfast as over seas I'm Eoin O'Duffy.


    Tick, mention of the commemoration today. All is good in the World.


  • #4945
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Tick, mention of the commemoration today. All is good in the World.

    So what? Are you just about acting the arse now? At least your efforts at making a point were funny sometimes. Can't recall last time I mentioned it and even if it was every day so what?


  • #4946
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Not to mention some of them strategically using their fellow Irish men and women in NI for party political purposes. One minute lecturing them on democracy, the next excluding their political representatives.
    Exactly what Varadkar did in the Dáil and on the Kenny show.
    His mask has slipped off completely.

    It's like the GFA. They'll take pats on the back for working towards an all inclusive peace then disrespect and damage the cross party good works because someone asked Leo an awkward question.


  • #4947
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bowie wrote: »
    So what? Are you just about acting the arse now? At least your efforts at making a point were funny sometimes. Can't recall last time I mentioned it and even if it was every day so what?

    Sorry the tick was in refernece of one of your crew get it in at least once a day :-)

    Just you have no issue with complaining about the RIC/B&T. Who are hated for the unspeakable acts of violence carried out on Irish people.

    But when the IRA do the same in 2007 to an Irish person and SF help with the cover up thats no issue. Is that not exactly why everyone hates the B&T? taking innocent people into sheds and beating them till they are dead?

    So if it is ok for the IRA to do it and get it covered up by SF, are you saying it was ok for the B&T to do it>?


    P.S. that was the most stupid idea I ever heard from FG....no idea which idiot came up with that


  • #4948
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Sorry the tick was in refernece of one of your crew get it in at least once a day :-)

    Just you have no issue with complaining about the RIC/B&T. Who are hated for the unspeakable acts of violence carried out on Irish people.

    But when the IRA do the same in 2007 to an Irish person and SF help with the cover up thats no issue. Is that not exactly why everyone hates the B&T? taking innocent people into sheds and beating them till they are dead?

    So if it is ok for the IRA to do it and get it covered up by SF, are you saying it was ok for the B&T to do it>?


    P.S. that was the most stupid idea I ever heard from FG....no idea which idiot came up with that

    You're just looking for a slagging match. Jog on.


  • #4949
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bowie wrote: »
    You're just looking for a slagging match. Jog on.


    You missed the other part


    Rightly you have distain for the RIC/B&T but then you overlook the exact same carry on from PIRA/SF?


    So how does that work?


  • #4950
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You missed the other part


    Rightly you have distain for the RIC/B&T but then you overlook the exact same carry on from PIRA/SF?


    So how does that work?

    Tuned out after the crew line.
    No I've not ;)


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  • #4951
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bowie wrote: »
    Tuned out after the crew line.
    No I've not ;)


    Of course you did.


    So answer the question or as usual just dodge it?


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