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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • #4322
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,207 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    fritzelly wrote: »
    RTE player completely broke at the moment - our money well spent

    And they’ve just saddled The Tonight Show with Stephen Colbert to it, no doubt costing a pretty penny.


  • #4323
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Unfortunealy more than 50 people logged onto it and crippled the servers!!

    50? It struggles at 2.

    I think WWN said it best

    https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/01/26/rte-player-down-after-9-people-attempt-to-stream-at-the-same-time/
    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    When the Glasnevin memorial was vandalised a few months ago RTE had 'vandalized' in the caption on the 6.1 news. Corrected for the 9 oc news.

    Then some cabbage sends in the vid he took of the wind blowing the artic over in a storm while filming the clip with his phone as he was driving.
    RTE showed the clip in full inc a lovely view of yer mans steering wheel on the 6.1
    By 9 the clip was shown zoomed in with no steering wheel in view.

    Oh literacy skills among even grown adults are atrocious. It's not even word play either, it's not knowing. Some of it I think is down to people genuinely not even reading the news , or anything in general. I've sat with people who can't even read subtitles (not subtitled films, just 'later that day, somewhere downtown' kinda thing).


  • #4324
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    If only Dee/Kathryn could let their true feelings be known to all of us ungrateful ba$tards for not fully appreciating the public service they are providing us during these difficult times.

    People can't go out, social gathering venues are completely closed, the only options available are television, Radio, the internet (which is kinda strangled at the moment), DVD's, Blu Rays or Netflix/ Disney + (or whatever streaming service you like) and podcasts.

    And yet Kathryn can't get an audience.

    You have to be failing pretty flipping hard to not be able to get an audience during a lock-down.


  • #4325
    Nevin Parsnipp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Nevin Parsnipp


    Can anybody provide any clarity on this .?


    RTE Sports Dept...we are mow in an era where there is no popular live sport and most big sporting events cancelled.

    This is the time when the GAA season would be cranking up and we would be at the sharp end of Rugby and Champions League competitions.

    So what are all the sporties in RTE doing ? Sure ..I know a couple of them have mickey mouse music progs...but hey I think the license fee paying public need to hear what is happening here.

    You read everywhere of people being furloughed....pay cuts....lay offs etc.

    What is happening in RTE....pay cuts...enforced holidays ? Strange that no journos or politicos have asked questions on this one ...surely this should be asked if RTE are lobbying for a fee increase ?


  • #4326
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Oh literacy skills among even grown adults are atrocious. It's not even word play either, it's not knowing. Some of it I think is down to people genuinely not even reading the news , or anything in general. I've sat with people who can't even read subtitles (not subtitled films, just 'later that day, somewhere downtown' kinda thing).


    Typos and basic errors have become more common in other print media also. You'll find them in The Independent and even The Irish Times at a frequency that you wouldn't have years ago.



    In the Indo it's because they don't have nearly as many editors as they used to have. In the Irish Times it seems to be the work of interns and similar low-level staff that doesn't get adequately edited. The primary cause is cost-cutting removing quality-control rather than illiterate millennials.


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  • #4327
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »
    Can anybody provide any clarity on this .?


    RTE Sports Dept...we are mow in an era where there is no popular live sport and most big sporting events cancelled.

    This is the time when the GAA season would be cranking up and we would be at the sharp end of Rugby and Champions League competitions.

    So what are all the sporties in RTE doing ? Sure ..I know a couple of them have mickey mouse music progs...but hey I think the license fee paying public need to hear what is happening here.

    You read everywhere of people being furloughed....pay cuts....lay offs etc.

    What is happening in RTE....pay cuts...enforced holidays ? Strange that no journos or politicos have asked questions on this one ...surely this should be asked if RTE are lobbying for a fee increase ?


    This was already discussed a few pages back


    The consensus was they should be taking a pay cut in line with the advertisement reduction. Firing a load of staff and having to pay redundancy woudn't make sense. I doubt they have reduced pay, most are probably twiddling thumbs waiting for something to happen


  • #4328
    retalivity
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,370 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »
    What is happening in RTE....pay cuts...enforced holidays ? Strange that no journos or politicos have asked questions on this one ...surely this should be asked if RTE are lobbying for a fee increase ?

    RTE aren't in the business of asking hard questions, especially ones that show themselves up.


  • #4329
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »
    Can anybody provide any clarity on this .?


    RTE Sports Dept...we are mow in an era where there is no popular live sport and most big sporting events cancelled.

    This is the time when the GAA season would be cranking up and we would be at the sharp end of Rugby and Champions League competitions.

    So what are all the sporties in RTE doing ? Sure ..I know a couple of them have mickey mouse music progs...but hey I think the license fee paying public need to hear what is happening here.

    You read everywhere of people being furloughed....pay cuts....lay offs etc.

    What is happening in RTE....pay cuts...enforced holidays ? Strange that no journos or politicos have asked questions on this one ...surely this should be asked if RTE are lobbying for a fee increase ?

    The Otb crew have kept the show on the road all week with interesting interviews, picking teams of an era, revisiting controversies, discussing sports books etc what do rte do? Martys desert Island discs with the usual suspects and music from Rickoshea on a Saturday. I expected better to be honest


  • #4330
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,970 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    This was already discussed a few pages back


    The consensus was they should be taking a pay cut in line with the advertisement reduction. Firing a load of staff and having to pay redundancy woudn't make sense. I doubt they have reduced pay, most are probably twiddling thumbs waiting for something to happen

    Like the time of a Stephensons Day when the place was ticking over to a medley of 4th tier staff and the station cat .........Then one of the biggest tsunamis in history hit the Phillippines.

    Lookit ...there’s no news between Christmas week and the 8th of January.


  • #4331
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Like the time of a Stephensons Day when the place was ticking over to a medley of 4th tier staff and the station cat .........Then one of the biggest tsunamis in history hit the Phillippines.

    Lookit ...there’s no news between Christmas week and the 8th of January.

    Osama Bin Laden's assasination was a better example - possibly the biggest story of the last decade happened on a Bank Holiday Weekend (Sunday night into Monday morning to be precise). It was first rumoured around 10pm UK time and confirmed before midnight on Sunday night. It was wall to wall coverage on Sky and BBC News throughout the night and pretty much every other channel interrupted normal programming to give some sort of announcement and further updates throughout the day (monday). The first mention of it on RTE TV? Six One News on Monday.


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  • #4332
    AndyBoBandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,207 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    The first mention of it on RTE TV? Six One News on Monday.

    What do you expect from the 'National Broadcaster' who's first live broadcast of the day is the 1pm news bulletin, a full 13 hours into the day.

    Slate TV3/Virgin Media all we want (believe me, I'm no fan), but at least they are broadcasting live every morning from 7am (9am on weekends).


  • #4333
    ButtersSuki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    AndyBoBandy wrote: »
    What do you expect from the 'National Broadcaster' who's first live broadcast of the day is the 1pm news bulletin, a full 13 hours into the day.

    Slate TV3/Virgin Media all we want (believe me, I'm no fan), but at least they are broadcasting live every morning from 7am (9am on weekends).

    That's the point - they didn't even have a 1pm news that day!

    You'd think there would have been a mad scamble/all hands on deck to cover the OBL story, but no, we can't ask Dobbo or Sharon to come in earlier than 6pm on a BH Monday.......


  • #4334
    jippo nolan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    ButtersSuki wrote: »
    That's the point - they didn't even have a 1pm news that day!

    You'd think there would have been a mad scamble/all hands on deck to cover the OBL story, but no, we can't ask Dobbo or Sharon to come in earlier than 6pm on a BH Monday.......

    Dobbo would have to rush over from ballsbridge in his emergency pinstriped onesie!


  • #4335
    mikhail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Typos and basic errors have become more common in other print media also. You'll find them in The Independent and even The Irish Times at a frequency that you wouldn't have years ago.



    In the Indo it's because they don't have nearly as many editors as they used to have. In the Irish Times it seems to be the work of interns and similar low-level staff that doesn't get adequately edited. The primary cause is cost-cutting removing quality-control rather than illiterate millennials.
    That kind of proof-reading is the job of sub-editors, a category of staff that's been cut to the bone in recent years. Of course, there is spell-check software built into word processors these days, but it can't catch certain kinds of errors. It's all symptomatic of the newspapers simply not being as lucrative a business as in the past.


  • #4336
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    mikhail wrote: »
    That kind of proof-reading is the job of sub-editors, a category of staff that's been cut to the bone in recent years. Of course, there is spell-check software built into word processors these days, but it can't catch certain kinds of errors. It's all symptomatic of the newspapers simply not being as lucrative a business as in the past.

    They're all kind of competing with digital media (which itsself is dying off faster than print media) who can get the news stories out faster than print. Faster than television even. Just constant plugged in to news media.

    Off topic, but related-has anyone tried to use Sky's 'record series' option on Tg4? For certain shows or series, Tg4 it will record one episode, then decide 'series ended'.
    Who's responsible for that? It only happens with TG4.


  • #4337
    Montage of Feck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Sky is another media organisation that will be in trouble due to the Corona virus. I've lived perfectly fine without live sport since the lockdown, so won't be renewing my subscription.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • #4338
    Sebastian Dangerfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    You're all being very harsh on RTE. People are losing their minds during lockdown, hoping desperately for original content to pass the time, and RTE have delivered despite their financial woes. They put on a new home-grown comedy/drama a couple of weeks ago, and another one tomorrow night, so can the naysayers and moaners stop saying they're a waste of money please?

    They're called Bachelors Walk and Pure Mule , check them out.


  • #4339
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »
    They put on a new home-grown comedy/drama a couple of weeks ago, and another one tomorrow night, so can the naysayers and moaners stop saying they're a waste of money please?

    They're called Bachelors Walk and Pure Mule , check them out.

    Hmmm - you know that is 20 years old


  • #4340
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Hmmm - you know that is 20 years old

    Yep, and any 'new' shows RTE have put on, such as Normal People, are produced and funded by British production companyies.

    Not Irish.

    Plus how could Pure Mule be 'new'-Tom Murphy, one of the leads, has been dead for almost 13 years.


  • #4341
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Montage of Feck wrote: »
    Sky is another media organisation that will be in trouble due to the Corona virus. I've lived perfectly fine without live sport since the lockdown, so won't be renewing my subscription.

    I hope they don't have to put both of their orchestras on the wage subsidy scheme. That would be a disaster.


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  • #4342
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »
    You're all being very harsh on RTE. People are losing their minds during lockdown, hoping desperately for original content to pass the time, and RTE have delivered despite their financial woes. They put on a new home-grown comedy/drama a couple of weeks ago, and another one tomorrow night, so can the naysayers and moaners stop saying they're a waste of money please?

    They're called Bachelors Walk and Pure Mule , check them out.

    If Alison Spittle is not in them, I'm not watching.


  • #4343
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    What's the story with the 'commercial presentations' they now have on RTE at prime time whereby Brennans and SuperValu basically bought the entire ad slot for 1 ad?


  • #4344
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    If Alison Spittle is not in them, I'm not watching.

    Allison Spittle should present the news.

    Or the weather. To heck with it-make her host the Angelus! :pac:


  • #4345
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    What's the story with the 'commercial presentations' they now have on RTE at prime time whereby Brennans and SuperValu basically bought the entire ad slot for 1 ad?

    I stand to be corrected here but, (and you knew that but was coming) it's basically-Musgraves are loaded. Buying up a 3min slot is a drop in the ocean for them. Once a company gets into something different like insurance (often called insurdance) or mobile phones like Tesco, you know they're trying to burn money.

    Not sure about the Brennans though.


  • #4346
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Probably giving a deal just so they have something to occupy the ad slots, don't see the same problem with VM stations or private radio stations


  • #4347
    Sebastian Dangerfield
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Sebastian Dangerfield


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Hmmm - you know that is 20 years old

    It was meant as sarcasm... obviously didnt come across. The fact that the best RTE shows on all week are 15 and 20 years old is laughable.

    Normal People is getting lots of hype at the moment, and Im sure theyve paid plenty to get it. Which was why I was a bit surprised to see them promoting BBCs showing of it last Monday as "best tv to watch today", 24 hours before they showed it themselves.


  • #4348
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: »
    It was meant as sarcasm... obviously didnt come across. The fact that the best RTE shows on all week are 15 and 20 years old is laughable.

    Normal People is getting lots of hype at the moment, and Im sure theyve paid plenty to get it. Which was why I was a bit surprised to see them promoting BBCs showing of it last Monday as "best tv to watch today", 24 hours before they showed it themselves.

    Damn you forgot the /s font

    If RTE weren't so hell bent on supporting their "friends" (Operation Covid-Nation) they would be making stuff like Normal People instead of having to buy it in.


  • #4349
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,507 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Damn you forgot the /s font

    If RTE weren't so hell bent on supporting their "friends" (Operation Covid-Nation) they would be making stuff like Normal People instead of having to buy it in.

    Yeah I'd say there are meetings in rte where they try to come up with new vehicles for their 'talent'.

    Be it Kathryn Thomas, Francis Brennan, Dermot Bannon .......


  • #4350
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say there are meetings in rte where they try to come up with new vehicles for their 'talent'.

    Be it Kathryn Thomas, Francis Brennan, Dermot Bannon .......

    Or any of the ballymaloo crowd


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  • #4351
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,834 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    ShamNNspace wrote: »
    Or any of the ballymaloo crowd

    If only Gerry Ryan were still alive, Rachel Allen's kid could have made a FORTUNE in RTE.


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