Broken nut/bolt

Ninthlife · 03-05-2020 08:07PM #1

I'll try explain this best I can...

Power washer hose connects to the the power washer lance.

Silver bolt at end of the hose screws onto gold coloured conector on the lance

Well i stood on it and the gold connector snapped and is now stuck flush within the silver bolt on the hose.

Any ideas on how to get the broken part out??

Mech1 · 03-05-2020 08:09PM

Hand tightened or spanner tightened?

Mech1 · 03-05-2020 08:10PM

Picture would help a lot.

Ninthlife · 03-05-2020 08:13PM

Mech1 wrote: »

Hand tightened or spanner tightened?

Spanner tightened..

I'll try get pics tomorrow and post them.

Id replace the whole lot but most places closed and the power washer unit is perfect so seems a shame

jack of all · 03-05-2020 08:29PM

Hard to say without a picture but a tapered screw extractor might work...

Ninthlife · 03-05-2020 10:13PM

jack of all wrote: »

Hard to say without a picture but a tapered screw extractor might work...

Ok.. does that fit within the broken nut then loosen and try unthread it??

GinSoaked · 03-05-2020 10:18PM

jack of all wrote: »

Hard to say without a picture but a tapered screw extractor might work...

Can't see your picture but extractors were what I was going to suggest.

Like these...

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Piece-Broken-Damaged-Screw-Extractor/dp/B07FNBSRNQ/

GinSoaked · 03-05-2020 10:21PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Ok.. does that fit within the broken nut then loosen and try unthread it??

Thats correct if you look at them the treads are "the wrong way around" (left handed) so as you tighten them anti clockwise they bite into the broken section.

Ninthlife · 03-05-2020 10:24PM

GinSoaked wrote: »

Thats correct if you look at them the treads are "the wrong way around" (left handed) so as you tighten them anti clockwise they bite into the broken section.

Sounds like what i need but wondering if i have enough (a) depth within the main connector nut is avout an inch
(B) the broken part in possibly 2 1/2 threads in size

Pics might explain better

Thanks for all suggestions

GinSoaked · 03-05-2020 10:34PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Sounds like what i need but wondering if i have enough (a) depth within the main connector nut is avout an inch
(B) the broken part in possibly 2 1/2 threads in size

Pics might explain better

Thanks for all suggestions

If they are too long you can normally snap one off to the right length. They are quite cheaply made and hardened through out so will snap sometimes too easily. Just put in a vice leaving the bit you want to break off sticking up and hit the side with a hammer (wear goggles).

Edit if the whole is too wide then you won't get away with a cheap set of extractors

A dremel to make a notch in each side on the inside edge may allow you to put something in the hole to get purchase, you need to be creative.

Ninthlife · 03-05-2020 11:00PM

GinSoaked wrote: »

If they are too long you can normally snap one off to the right length. They are quite cheaply made and hardened through out so will snap sometimes too easily. Just put in a vice leaving the bit you want to break off sticking up and hit the side with a hammer (wear goggles).

Edit if the whole is too wide then you won't get away with a cheap set of extractors

A dremel to make a notch in each side on the inside edge may allow you to put something in the hole to get purchase, you need to be creative.

Thats what i was trying to do minus the dremel, using a flat head screwdriver to wedge in and try unscrew the broken part out but couodnt get enough grip on inside to get a turn. The dremel would be ideal

GinSoaked · 03-05-2020 11:17PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Thats what i was trying to do minus the dremel, using a flat head screwdriver to wedge in and try unscrew the broken part out but couodnt get enough grip on inside to get a turn. The dremel would be ideal

A good vice (careful you don't crush anything or even a clamp) might help hold it while you use the end of a hacksaw blade to make a notch. Hold the hacksaw blade in a rag to save your hands, takes ages but can be done. You only need one slight notch if you can clamp the fitting as you can then put an old screwdriver in the notch and tap it around with a hammer.

GinSoaked · 03-05-2020 11:58PM

OK so here's an off the wall idea. First roughen up the inside broken fitting. Mask of any of the female fitting with something like Plasticine. Next fill the broken fitting with epoxy resin and plant something you can get a good grip on in the epoxy. Wait till the epoxy is really dry and remove using whatever you epoxied in place to get a grip on.

Ninthlife · 04-05-2020 09:42PM

I didnt get a chance to try any suggestions today but pics attached for those interested

hesker · 05-05-2020 11:21AM

Get your hands on a dremel and cut two slots on either side of the bronze part to accept a flat header screwdriver.

Then put the nut in a vice or have someone hold it with a spanner.

Finally get 2 screwdrivers and hold them in a cross shaped pattern and you will be able to twist the broken piece out using the slots you have cut. You will be leveraging one screwdriver against the other.

Similar to this

https://youtu.be/vwJFbN0WcQw

Tokyo · 05-05-2020 11:55AM

Find a tool that you can wedge inside the brass fitting (nose of a set of pliers, even the head of a bolt), and tap it into it. Don't use brute force - just enough to let it bite into the brass without deforming it. And twist it loose, taking the brass fitting with it.

Huawei Gallagher · 05-05-2020 12:12PM

I. would put the whole shebang in a vice or a clamp of some sort. Then get a hammer and very sharp chisel or similar and hit broken bolt at the 12 O'Clock position (or wherever there is a good jagged edge that might let it dig in) and slowly hammer it anti clockwise until it is screwed out.

Ninthlife · 10-05-2020 10:47AM

Spent a few hours trying all suggested ideas and had no luck in budging it at all.

Its screwed in fairly tight...

Just have to wait til I can go buy a new one

Thanks to all for the suggestions

the_pen_turner · 10-05-2020 12:06PM

have a look at the ultimate handyman channel on you tube. he has some great videos on opening nuts and bolts etc

did you try heating it up then cooling it . that can break the bond sometimes

Ninthlife · 10-05-2020 02:31PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

have a look at the ultimate handyman channel on you tube. he has some great videos on opening nuts and bolts etc

did you try heating it up then cooling it . that can break the bond sometimes

I didnt try that and wouldnt have a torch although i could just use the hob .

I'll be doing some stuff out in garden next week might give it a go and i will check out the youtube channel too...thanks

Tokyo · 10-05-2020 02:57PM

Torch + rubber hose/rubber washers = bad.

doctorchopper · 10-05-2020 03:06PM

Huawei Gallagher wrote: »

I. would put the whole shebang in a vice or a clamp of some sort. Then get a hammer and very sharp chisel or similar and hit broken bolt at the 12 O'Clock position (or wherever there is a good jagged edge that might let it dig in) and slowly hammer it anti clockwise until it is screwed out.

I would say if you take it to a hydraulic hose shop they could cut it off and crimp on a new fitting

the_pen_turner · 10-05-2020 03:13PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

I didnt try that and wouldnt have a torch although i could just use the hob .

I'll be doing some stuff out in garden next week might give it a go and i will check out the youtube channel too...thanks

You would want to be very careful with a torch. .
I wonder would boiling it in water continuously for 1 hour and then into a pot of freezing icy waters work

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