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Digital ID's for everyone

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    King Mob wrote: »
    My theory is that it's to give their claims an air of evidence and too seem like the claims come from an official source rather from his imagination.

    People also drop websites in forums and social media to boost google search ranking associations..

    One person isn't going to have much of an impact, but a community, doing it at every opportunity..

    Nah..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "Stop ID2020, investigate Bill Gates"
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-id2020-investigate-bill-gates-assets-stocks-and-companies
    ID2020 is a plan put in place by bill gates to impose mass public vaccination and show "vaccine status" through a microchip or "ID" injected under the skin. MIT and microsoft have partnered together to make what bill calls "tattoo markers" that show if you have or have not had his poisonous vaccine. He did something similiar in africa that resulted in over 40,000 people dying from his vaccine. he owns virus patents , he owns vaccine patents. he makes money to make you sick. My fellow Americans , This is the mark of the beast the bible has warned us about folks. Bill owns virus patents , bill owns vaccine patents , bill has flown to Epsteins island on the lolita express SEVERAL times , bill admits to depopulation agendas. Stop Him NOW"

    45k people signed that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's not a diversion to bring up the bible when it's the foundation for your entire conspiracy theory.
    You are now once again simply ignoring points you can't address.
    Why do you think this tactic is working in your favour? :confused:

    That's an interesting theory you propose, the bible you say?
    Haven't mentioned the bible in this thread myself, unless it to question why you mention it as novice diversion tactic. It's certainly an intersting aside and one your clearly fasinated with, but certainly not a foundation for this thread.
    The foundation of this thread (see page 1) is based only on www.id2020.org and it's associates/partners such as BillGates/Gavi etc.

    Why do you ignore when I correct you on your previous falsehoods, your claims that there is 'no' Digital ID for everyone (planned, envisaged or in existance), through id2020?

    e.g. The points on the previous reply (placed below) you al ignored, and instead (along with the other charachter), started a campaign of derailment. An agenda?...

    --- The earlier post highlighting the "Current program of digital identity for everyone on the planet, a new 'digital biometric' 'solution'. Biometric Private Digital Key, that uses biometric data, and turns this into a (digital) UNiD (unique numerical id)".
    Agree, in reality it's not a conspiracy at all. 'Digital IDs for everyone" is a very open (UN backed) push. Managed through id2020.org and it's partners. Only folks like KingMob are in denial, of this fact (KingMob is likely busy now typing some diversion string containing ufos/bible/soros/trump/url formatting etc).

    To quote id2020.org's own (iRespond) program: as published https://www.irespond.org/
    "Digital identity for everyone on the planet" and on the same page, using a unique {new} digital biometric identity solution.

    {The Biometric [Digitised] Private Key} "iRespond deconstructs the iris (biometric) into a unique template that can’t be forged or duplicated. The template in turn is paired with a 12-digit string of randomly generated numbers forming a unique numeric ID (UNiD)."

    Perfect for vaccine tracking (as has been used), along with electronic medical record matching, it actually meets the failures of the current standard reliance of volountary bluetooth tracking on phones for COVID.
    This Digital Identity System "push", will like it's pilot programs (and BGates QDT embodiment project), bring blockchain-based biometric identity to eveyone on the planet.
    Again....
    The only conspiracy (if that) is actually the debate (that hasn't really happened), about how exactly it will be implimented, and the implications of everyone on the planet having this UNiD.
    The other conspiracy is the attempted (repeated) derailment of the topic of 'DigitalIDs for everyone' by a couple of dodgy chaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    That's an interesting theory you propose, the bible you say?
    Haven't mentioned the bible in this thread myself, unless it to question why you mention it as novice diversion tactic.

    You believe the Bible prophesized this stuff as the "mark of the beast"..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You believe the Bible prophesized this stuff as the "mark of the beast"..
    It's certainly an intersting concept and side note, but probably best suited to another more 'supernatural' (so to speak) thread, this thread is the practicalities of the topic of DigitalID's, for everyone.
    Again the foundation of this thread is based upon id2020.org

    You still haven't addressed the big question I have corrected you on numerous of times, even quoting directly from id2020.org's own iRespond program that states: "...Current program of digital identity for everyone on the planet, a new 'digital biometric' 'solution'. Biometric Private Digital Key, that uses biometric data, and turns this into a (digital) UNiD (unique numerical id)".

    Question for Dohnjoe and/or Kingmob:

    Do you believe there is a (given the current unprecedented opportunity) to make a coordinated, concerted push for Digital IDs, and most likely for everyone on the planet???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Question for Dohnjoe and/or Kingmob:

    Do you believe there is a (given the current unprecedented opportunity) to make a coordinated, concerted push for Digital IDs, and most likely for everyone on the planet???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It's certainly an intersting concept and side note, but probably best suited to another more 'supernatural' (so to speak) thread, this thread is the practicalities of the topic of DigitalID's, for everyone.
    Again the foundation of this thread is based upon id2020.org

    At the moment this thread seems to centre almost exclusively around you and your personal views about digital ID's, views which appear to be heavily motivated by your religious beliefs - so yeah, I'd say it's pretty relevant

    Do you believe the Bible could predict anything in the future? like for example digital marks on or in people as some form of digital ID?

    Do you believe certain digital marks or entities could be a so-called "mark of the" devil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It's certainly an intersting concept and side note, but probably best suited to another more 'supernatural' (so to speak) thread, this thread is the practicalities of the topic of DigitalID's, for everyone.
    Again the foundation of this thread is based upon id2020.org

    You still haven't addressed the big question I have corrected you on numerous of times, even quoting directly from id2020.org's own iRespond program that states: "...Current program of digital identity for everyone on the planet, a new 'digital biometric' 'solution'. Biometric Private Digital Key, that uses biometric data, and turns this into a (digital) UNiD (unique numerical id)".

    Question for Dohnjoe and/or Kingmob:

    Do you believe there is a (given the current unprecedented opportunity) to make a coordinated, concerted push for Digital IDs, and most likely for everyone on the planet???

    so you have never made a connection between technology of this type and bibilical prophecy on boards.ie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Question for Dohnjoe and/or Kingmob:

    Do you believe there is a (given the current unprecedented opportunity) to make a coordinated, concerted push for Digital IDs, and most likely for everyone on the planet???

    Not aware of any

    Individual groups and governments may be working on different projects and efforts to digitalise identification or forms of it (I have at least two forms of digital ID, both are nationally accepted)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Not aware of any
    Either that's a plain lie and deliberate falsehood.

    Or you actually failed to look at id2020.org on the very 1st page of this thread, and the same URL with the formatting you happened commented on (at least x10 times).

    A very interesing denial agenda, and diversion (attempt).

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That's an interesting theory you propose, the bible you say?
    Haven't mentioned the bible in this thread myself, unless it to question why you mention it as novice diversion tactic.
    Ok, then you're saying that you don't believe the bible's prophesy and you don't believe that these digital ids are "the number of the beast"?

    If you don't directly say "No I don't" or similar I will continue to assume that you do believe such a thing based on your previous comments and claims.
    Why do you ignore when I correct you on your previous falsehoods, your claims that there is 'no' Digital ID for everyone (planned, envisaged or in existance), through id2020?
    Lol, never claimed that.
    I've been repeatedly outlining that you are just misinterpreting what people are saying to fit your preferred conspiracy theory, which I believe is based on your belief in a biblical prophesy.

    Also you seem to have forgotten to give ID2020's web address there for the millionth time...
    e.g. The points on the previous reply (placed below) you al ignored, and instead (along with the other charachter), started a campaign of derailment. An agenda?...
    But I haven't ignored your point while you've ignored dozens of mine.

    I've already pointed out how this pilot program raises issues with your conspiracy theory. For example, how could such a pilot program work when the technology you claim they want doesn't work yet and they are using technology you believe doesn't work.
    This is illustrated here:
    {The Biometric [Digitised] Private Key} "iRespond deconstructs the iris (biometric) into a unique template that can’t be forged or duplicated. The template in turn is paired with a 12-digit string of randomly generated numbers forming a unique numeric ID (UNiD)."
    If they can use iris scans to create a form of id that can't be forged or replicated, why would be need a quantum tattoo or RFID tag or Mark of the beast?

    You've been saying for this entire thread that biometric scans like the above would not work and would be inadequate.
    You directly dismissed the idea of iris scans, though offered no reason to do so. And when iris scans were brought up as a possible method, you ignored that point.

    You also previously claims that irises were in the forehead, so not even sure that you know what they are...
    The other conspiracy is the attempted (repeated) derailment of the topic of 'DigitalIDs for everyone' by a couple of dodgy chaps.
    Again, there's no derailment going on. You are just trying to dodge questions about your conspiracy theory you don't want to address or acknowledge because you know they kind of poke holes in your belief.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Question for Dohnjoe and/or Kingmob:

    Do you believe there is a (given the current unprecedented opportunity) to make a coordinated, concerted push for Digital IDs, and most likely for everyone on the planet???
    It depends what you mean by "coordinated" and "push".

    Are there organisations such as id2020 who believe such a thing is a good idea and are "pushing" to introduce it?
    Yes, but I think you are misrepresenting these people and their organisation's goals.

    Is there a big conspiracy between many of these organisations, wealthy individuals and governments to introduce these ids?
    No, I don't believe that.

    Are these ids planned to be used to control people?
    No, I don't believe that either.

    Do I believe that this was predicted in the bible as the mark of the beast?
    No, I don't believe that either as it's very silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, never claimed that.
    Cool. we can stop all the idle silly chit-chat and your diversions to ufo/bible/fake moons and so on...
    ...... and we can both agree there is in fact a push towards Digital ID's for everyone on the planet.

    The only theory left is as to what exact format this id2020 DigitalID, it will take.

    All indications (from this early-emmerging technology pool) are that it (all your personal and biometric data) will process this into a a single UnID (16k data string), much like a serial number (also likely available as a scan-able QRTag)

    Exciting times, the future.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Cool. we can stop all the idle silly chit-chat and your diversions to ufo/bible/fake moons and so on...
    I'm sorry, you're once again ignoring several points and questions you cannot address.
    Specificially I asked you to confirm whether or not you believe in the biblical prophesy. I told you that if you don't directly state otherwise, I would continue to assume that this was the basis of your beliefs.
    Since you've ignored the question entirely, then I will continue to assume this based on your previous statements and will continue to point this out where nessesary.
    ...... and we can both agree there is in fact a push towards Digital ID's for everyone on the planet.
    Well no, that's not what we agree on.
    You are misconstruing and misrepresenting statements to mean things they don't mean.

    For example when you quote from id2020's website for that phrase, it clear doesn't mean what you're claiming it means.

    You also make claims about those ids, the consequences of those ids, those organisations and their goals that I don't agree with at all.
    The only theory left is as to what exact format this id2020 DigitalID, it will take.
    .
    But this is one of the points and questions you are dodging.
    You posted a quote from someone involved in the pilot program who claims they are using Iris scans. This was a method you previously dismissed and ignored in favour of quantum tattoos and similar so the ids could fit your beliefs in biblical prophesy.

    Iris scans fit the definition of "unique biometric id" and perfectly address all the points you brought up with other forms of biometric ids.
    Irises can be scanned without contact and now technologies are being developed to scan them are distances that even your tattoos can't be scanned at:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031320317302182
    ver the last several years, there have been numerous attempts to design and implement iris recognition systems that operate at longer standoff distances ranging from 1 m to 60 m. Such long range iris acquisition and recognition systems can provide high user convenience and improved throughput. This paper reviews the state-of-the-art design and implementation of iris-recognition-at-a-distance (IAAD) systems.

    We also know that such a system would be pretty hack proof as to remove your identifier would require you to remove your eyes and covering your irises with contact lenses would be a dead giveaway.

    So again, to repeat my questions from the previous post:
    Why are they using a technology and method you don't believe works?
    Why would they need to use a tattoo or similar "mark of the beast" when iris scans are capable of producing a unique id?

    Could you confirm that you actually know what an Iris is, as you previously claimed that they would be scanned in the forehead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    It doesn't get any simpler than this folks, yet some are still confused: diverting, time wasting and babbling on (which I no longer have time for, and will as such ignore).

    https://id2020.org/digital-identity:
    A unique convergence of trends provides an unprecedented opportunity to make a coordinated, concerted push to provide digital ID to everyone.

    Read it again, drink it in, then read it once more.

    Then we can discuss the likely envisaged format and practical implimentation and use of this new unique DigitalID,
    which really, is the only next valid discussion point at this stage outside of topic derailers.

    - Essentially all your available personal data including up to all x16 biometric measurements, will (all) be compressend and encryted into a (single) digital 16k file (UnID). A single digital serial number or tag (using blockchain) for everyone! In fact in one pilot scheme, they were able to a refugee's without any paper/card ID, into this 'UnID' and then into a QRTag on his chaps mobile phone, that was flashed when crossing a border (it will also be used for many other services, even fiscal transactions). Again, exciting stuff the future.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It doesn't get any simpler than this folks, yet some are still confused: diverting, time wasting and babbling on (which I no longer have time for, and will as such ignore).

    https://id2020.org/digital-identity:
    A unique convergence of trends provides an unprecedented opportunity to make a coordinated, concerted push to provide digital ID to everyone.

    Read it again, drink it in, then read it once more.
    Yes, and you are misrepresenting that statement.
    It's not saying that there is a coordinated, concerted push. It's saying that they believe that there should be a push.

    Also, I think you are misconstruing what "coordinated, concerted push" means.
    I would ask you to clarify what you believe this is, but I feel my question would be ignored as normal.

    And similarly you seem to be implying that they are referring to the current crisis in that statement when they aren't.
    I would again ask for clarification, but I think you'd not respond.

    It's kind of funny that you've now decided that the format of this id is important since you've run into issues you can't address.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, and you are misrepresenting that statement. It's not saying that there is a coordinated, concerted push. It's saying that they believe that there should be a push..
    You appear to be trying to twist and misrepresent (their very own) and very clear and published manifesto, an unusual tactic to say the least. Curious also. Maybe you are in denial, scared, or rejection of the entire concept of DigitalIDs? They do have very good plus points as well as some negative aspects.

    https://id2020.org/digital-identity:
    A unique convergence of trends provides an unprecedented opportunity to make a coordinated, concerted push to provide digital ID to everyone.

    This is highly coordinated (just take a gawk at the various sponsors, fundraisers and partners), the most powerful and wealthy people, families and organisations on the entire planet. Essentially a mix of the very best of technologies and vaccine alliances on the planet, a high quality mix.

    The concerted push has even more urgency now than before (COVID19) where the WHO (this week) said they will regard any concept immunity as unproven, and thus the need for Digital Immunisation Certificates instead. Likely to be carried on phones (bluetooth overidden) may become manditory.

    It had previous already unique circumstances and trends (many of worth). It's also purpose also backed by recent policy, Article 6 of UniversalD'onH'Rights, and also the UN's SDGoals target 16.9, and various other SGDs. Proof of concept already exists through one of the various pilot projects,
    https://www.irespond.org/news/
    This is the 1st step to towards a universal DigitalID.

    "iRespond deconstructs biometric measurements (and other personal data) and creates a unique template... The template in turn is paired with a 12-digit string of randomly generated numbers forming a unique numeric ID (UNiD)."

    "A serial number as such". Note also that any personal data (name, email, phone, medical history) can all be included and digitised into this single <16k data string.
    This UNiD effectively becomes your only form of ID, you are essentially number, this is your (only) ID/DigitalID. It can also be presented for services as a QRTag on your phone e.g. when crossing any international border, vaccine checks and so on.

    Highly convienient, there is no reason why this small 16k data file can't be put on your arm (similar to QR tattoo, but as a Quantum Dot Tattoo (BillGates Project), so that your new single DigitalID (UNiD) can be scanned at great distance by a camera (simpler and better than NFC/RFID).

    Again just think of the sheer convenience, no more need to carry around or forget any other form of ID whatsoever, it's on your own arm! Ideally to put underskin at time of birth (1st vaccine point), but also available later. Imagine the possibilities if it can be also linked to your bank, never need to carry anything around again, maybe just a smartphone.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You appear to be trying to twist and misrepresent (their very own) and very clear and published manifesto, an unusual tactic to say the least.
    Nope, I'm not twisting anything. That's all on you.
    This is highly coordinated (just take a gawk at the various sponsors, fundraisers and partners), the most powerful and wealthy people, families and organisations on the entire planet. Essentially a mix of the very best of technologies and vaccine alliances on the planet, a high quality mix.
    Again, this is not something you've actually shown to be the case. You just list names and make baseless insinuations and dodge any attempts to get you to substantiate or elaborate on these accusations.
    The concerted push has even more urgency now than before (COVID19) where the WHO (this week) said they will regard any concept immunity as unproven, and thus the need for Digital Immunisation Certificates instead. Likely to be carried on phones (bluetooth overidden) may become manditory.
    You see, this is the leaps you keep making.
    The WHO never say any such thing about "Digital Immunisation Certificates" or anything about "Blue tooth overidden" phones (whatever that means...) and it never said anything about anything becoming manditory.
    It had previous already unique circumstances and trends (many of worth). It's also purpose also backed by recent policy, Article 6 of UniversalD'onH'Rights, and also the UN's SDGoals target 16.9, and various other SGDs. Proof of concept already exists through one of the various pilot projects,
    https://www.irespond.org/news/
    This is the 1st step to towards a universal DigitalID.
    Cool. And which part of that refers to quantum tattoos? Or anything about the withholding of services? Or any of the other stuff you claim?

    And again, you just have the oddest ways of abbreviation....
    Highly convienient, there is no reason why this small 16k data file can't be put on your arm (similar to QR tattoo, but as a Quantum Dot Tattoo (BillGates Project), so that your new single DigitalID (UNiD) can be scanned at great distance by a camera (simpler and better than NFC/RFID).

    Again just think of the sheer convenience, no more need to carry around or forget any other form of ID whatsoever, it's on your own arm! Ideally to put underskin at time of birth (1st vaccine point), but also available later. Imagine the possibilities if it can be also linked to your bank, never need to carry anything around again, maybe just a smartphone.
    Or, instead of getting a tattoo, you could just do an iris scan.

    The only reason you keep insisting that a tattoo is the best option is because you adhere to a belief in biblical prophesy. You however won't outwardly state as such because you realize that would undercut your credibility as it's a silly idea.

    Also, you keep referring to birth as "1st vaccine point".
    You don't get vaccines at birth...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Either that's a plain lie and deliberate falsehood.

    Not at all.

    Your question used loaded words like "concerted", "coordinated", "push" that are in line with your (highly) paranoid view of digital ID in general

    ID2020 is a digital ID project by a group. It might work, it might partially work, or it might not work. Looks like they want to do a bunch of things, like any project of that scope.

    All of that is completely removed from your personal beliefs surrounding your perception of what digital ID is, and how it relates to the mark of the "devil" and bible prophecies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    King Mob wrote: »

    Or, instead of getting a tattoo, you could just do an iris scan.

    The only reason you keep insisting that a tattoo is the best option is because you adhere to a belief in biblical prophesy. You however won't outwardly state as such because you realize that would undercut your credibility as it's a silly idea.

    Also, you keep referring to birth as "1st vaccine point".
    You don't get vaccines at birth...

    they have on the christianity forum


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not twisting anything. That's all on you.

    Not only are you twisiting and very confused about particulars, you are now in denial of the id2020.org (UN backed) project, funded directly by the planet's wealthy elite and many huge global corporations. You are also in denial of it's manifesto (published in big bold letters on it's website). Funny times.

    Yes, this is clearly a mammoth task (it's not some fad as you think), to give a DigitalID to 1.5bn people (in it's first phase), the timeline was by 2030. This could well be taken forward with the move to vaccinate the entire planet shortly.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, this is not something you've actually shown to be the case. You just list names and make baseless insinuations and dodge any attempts to get you to substantiate or elaborate on these accusations..
    Are you comical Ali?
    See: http://id2020.org/alliance and play spot the logos.
    King Mob wrote: »
    The WHO never say any such thing about "Digital Immunisation Certificates"
    Hello there, are you in some alternative reality, what's it like there?
    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19
    King Mob wrote: »
    Cool. And which part of that refers to quantum tattoos?

    iRespond uses QRTags for border control in it's (id2020.org) project.
    BillGates funded quantum (dot) tattoos when active also in Microsoft (id2020 founder), this is also supported as GAVI (id2020 founder). In essence it's the same as the (already proven) smartphone QRTag, it just puts in in the body instead, fancy eh?
    King Mob wrote: »
    Or, instead of getting a tattoo, you could just do an iris scan.
    Again, this displays your shocking ignorance.

    iRespond deconstructs the iris (and other 16 biometrics, and any available personal information) into a unique digital template that can’t be forged or duplicated. The template in turn is paired with a 12-digit string of randomly generated numbers forming a unique numeric ID (UNiD).

    ...Without the UNiD (available as small 16kb QRTag), your DigitalID does.not.exist.

    Sure it can/has be used only as a smartphone QRTag, but this is not persistant. Hence BillGates funded the QDT, as 'his' ideal solution Good old Bill. The mark, which is embedded under your skin at time of vaccine, it's a scanable infrared semi-conductive copper & polymer flouresent data mark (pretty clever!).

    Clearly, again all this something you need to read up on (along with the various id2020 pilots and programs, before more of this ignorant vacant commentary, which may be rendered to the ignore list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Not only are you twisiting and very confused about particulars, you are now in denial of the id2020.org (UN backed) project, funded directly by the planet's wealthy elite and many huge global corporations. You are also in denial of it's manifesto (published in big bold letters on it's website). Funny times.

    I have so many questions..

    How do you feel about modern vaccinations, do they work?

    If a Covid-19 vaccination is found, and it's not "mandatory", how will you respond?

    Do you see modern cashless payments as "evil" and prophesied by the bible?

    There is a sub-culture of individuals on the internet who are terrified of "powers-that-be" forcing them to vaccinate or carry some sort of chip/RFID on their bodies, do you identify with this group of people? if not, how are you different?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I have so many questions..
    Sure do. For the all/any non-related questions the best advice stands as: to seek professional help or guideance in these uncertain times.

    To be fair, can somewhat sympathise with everyone's (constant) bible references and thus, natural curiousity. This is very understandable in some ways, even for e.g. the two cynical athiests here. In their own sub-conscious desire for comfort, and a quest for knowledge, under the presence of these turbulant times.

    So again, seek specialist assistance, that can go beyond my limited "that's very interesting" response in this regard.

    Also, all these more extreme agenda-driven comments e.g. the claim's of 'microchips': again this is another (repeated) falsehood. Upon what is infact currently and likely only a (concept proved)^, "simple data mark".

    Claims regardng the effectiveness of vaccines, are also irrelevant. Simply not important as the push for a DigitalID using vaccines (as a vehicle) stands that their medical effectiveness are wholly irrelevant, unimportant.

    The only topic is whether or not a (non-medicinal) data mark is used in combination, or even as a mark available on it's own. This data mark (like a serial number) is the foundation for any future DigitalID being established.

    Do not expect everyone to know the difference between an active ProcessorChip/RFID circut, and what is a simple UNiD/QRT type mark. But it has been already clarified before. These are two very different things, of course this mark e.g. ^QDT 'could' be activated to be 'semi-conductive' (in a passive sense), but even that fails classifications for any radio freqency product, and tje visual data string is limited to 16kb (about half a MSWord page).

    Also the derailing-type comments (about the moon/ufos/devil) from two keen posters, are best suited to other threads.

    Again, this topic is, is it not (as per the title, look above) is...
    ..."DigitalID's for everyone"

    Problem is the two resident ever-cynical posters here, are still wholly unable to accept the simple concept of this, are in a state of denial of the efforts (including proofs of concept) and any push (as pre-estabilshed/published) towards...
    ...DigitalIDs for everyone.

    Now as far as what exact form and details the new UnID type will look like, how it will function for the targetted 1.5billion people by 2030 (as per USG). Well, all we can do is look at current developments as starting reference point, and watch for new efforts. After that, it becomes future speculation based on the current evidence based models.

    The far reaching social conseqences, are even more open to various interpretention, and this next period 2030-40 (for the other remaining 6bn people:everyone). Can only be a speculative, subject and conceptual discussion - whereby there is no right or wrong answer, only 'theory' of likelyhood (that's without an actual time machine anyway).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Sure do. For the all/any non-related questions the best advice stands as: to seek professional help or guideance in these uncertain times.

    To be fair, can somewhat sympathise with everyone's (constant) bible references and thus, natural curiousity. This is very understandable in some ways, even for e.g. the two cynical athiests here. In their own sub-conscious desire for comfort, and a quest for knowledge, under the presence of these turbulant times.

    it is very understandable because you have made a link between biblical prophecy and digital id in the christianity forum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    it is very understandable because you have made a link between biblical prophecy and digital id in the christianity forum.
    "it's very interesting" is it not, as theory someone else proposed, maybe so indeed, and guess that's where it ends.

    However... even more, much, much, much, much more interesting and... actually in this proven-in-concept case: is the physical realisation that id2020.org actually have a proven model of a data mark, to serve as "complete and universal DigitalID", allowing access to products, services and transactions. Their partners additionally also have physical proof of concept for use as arm data mark embodiment. All clever stuff.

    Exciting times!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    "it's very interesting" is it not, as theory someone else proposed, maybe so indeed, and guess that's where it ends.

    However... even more, much, much, much, much more interesting and... actually in this proven-in-concept case: is the physical realisation that id2020.org actually have a proven model of a data mark, to serve as "complete and universal DigitalID", allowing access to products, services and transactions. Their partners additionally also have physical proof of concept for use as arm data mark embodiment. All clever stuff.

    Exciting times!

    not interesting at all. a book of fables written by sheep herders.write down enough nonsense and some of it will eventually come true. that you continued to deny you made that link for so long shows that you know it makes everything you say look silly. you are only interested in facts that support your biblical prophecy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    not interesting at all. a book
    ..... and some of it will eventually come true.
    Fascinating!
    So some of it (as totally far-fetched as it must have sounded then), is indeed likely to come true, from written accounts, from way, way, way back in olde times.
    "Very interesting".

    So do you have any actual thoughts/questions in you head regarding this topic of DigitalID for everyone? E.g.

    Q. Will it be DigitalID A. Yes
    Q. Will it be for Everyone. A. Yes (eventually, but just 1.5bn to start with)

    You're welcome, good night, and do come back again tommorow for the pandemic lockdown chitter-chat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Fascinating!
    So some of it (as totally far-fetched as it must have sounded then), is indeed likely to come true, from written accounts, from way, way, way back in olde times.
    "Very interesting".

    monkeys and typewriters spring to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Also the derailing-type comments (about the moon/ufos/devil) from two keen posters, are best suited to other threads.

    Again, this topic is, is it not (as per the title, look above) is...
    ..."DigitalID's for everyone"

    It's not so much about digital identification, rather it's your personal thread about your personal (rather bizarre) views of it.

    You also keep deflecting from the religious aspect of your view on the subject. Like you are smart enough to know it undermines it all, but so dishonest with yourself that you deliberately play it down


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    Not only are you twisiting and very confused about particulars, you are now in denial of the id2020.org (UN backed) project, funded directly by the planet's wealthy elite and many huge global corporations. You are also in denial of it's manifesto (published in big bold letters on it's website). Funny times.

    Yes, this is clearly a mammoth task (it's not some fad as you think), to give a DigitalID to 1.5bn people (in it's first phase), the timeline was by 2030. This could well be taken forward with the move to vaccinate the entire planet shortly.


    Are you comical Ali?
    See: http://id2020.org/alliance and play spot the logos.
    Yes, you've posted that before. But as I've explained, you're misrepresenting things and making vague insinuations that you will neither explain nor support.
    Hello there, are you in some alternative reality, what's it like there?
    https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19
    Hi. So that point you just quoted was only the start of the sentence. Here it is in full:
    The WHO never say any such thing about "Digital Immunisation Certificates" or anything about "Blue tooth overidden" phones (whatever that means...) and it never said anything about anything becoming manditory.
    Please try addressing my points in full.
    iRespond uses QRTags for border control in it's (id2020.org) project.
    BillGates funded quantum (dot) tattoos when active also in Microsoft (id2020 founder), this is also supported as GAVI (id2020 founder). In essence it's the same as the (already proven) smartphone QRTag, it just puts in in the body instead, fancy eh?


    Again, this displays your shocking ignorance.

    iRespond deconstructs the iris (and other 16 biometrics, and any available personal information) into a unique digital template that can’t be forged or duplicated. The template in turn is paired with a 12-digit string of randomly generated numbers forming a unique numeric ID (UNiD).

    ...Without the UNiD (available as small 16kb QRTag), your DigitalID does.not.exist.

    Sure it can/has be used only as a smartphone QRTag, but this is not persistant. Hence BillGates funded the QDT, as 'his' ideal solution Good old Bill. The mark, which is embedded under your skin at time of vaccine, it's a scanable infrared semi-conductive copper & polymer flouresent data mark (pretty clever!).

    Clearly, again all this something you need to read up on (along with the various id2020 pilots and programs, before more of this ignorant vacant commentary, which may be rendered to the ignore list.
    And again, why make a quantum tattoo when an iris can be used as a unique identifier?

    Unlike your tattoo idea, the iris is permanent from birth to death.

    Again, the only reason I see for them to use the tattoo is to partly satisfy the silly bible verse you believe is a prediction.


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