Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

Maybe people might realise how good we have it in Ireland.

Instead of the usual it's a kip and the people aren't looked after bla bla.

As a nation we are spoiled and pampered like no other.

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I would hazard a guess that once the Bulgarians leave and if the CV19 crisis has abated then all those waving there fists in anger at their smartphones produced in countries under labour conditions no one here would work under and made with metals probably mined using child labour while destroying the environment in the process, won't give a flying fork about the Bulgarians as they sip their Nesspresso coffee produced by underage workers doing backbreaking work for a couple of euro a day.

They won't, and tbh they don't give a fuck about keelings either, it's just somewhere to vent rage.


So long as the worlds economy is based on infinite growth and heavy consumption - this is how it's going to be, perhaps more of this needs to be brought to the surface, but will it change anything? Will it fuck, this is just todays whipping boy - people are bored and angry - this is a great thing to shout about for a few hours, something new will be along soon.

Cuir_Cosc_Orm wrote: »

Just out of interest what ethically made phone do you have?

And where did you buy your fair trade clothes?

I reckon the posters point is - we're all in glass houses, throwing stones at keelings is one thing, but if we don't want to be
hypocrites we need to either stop, or start throwing a lot more stones in a lot more places.

Graham wrote: »

The entire EU food supply is reliant on migrant labour.

I can't imagine we will ever return to a time where we're completely self sufficient for food in terms of production and/or harvesting.

At the same time, I never want to see a point where our food supply is dictated by likes & shares.

So would you be onboard with the government heavily incentivesing a reduction of the need for migrant labour to secure "vital" food supplies at a time when travel restrictions can easily be put in place by the countries of origin.
If it's actually vital that these strawberries get picked then you can't argue against that right?

Allow workers already resident to claim both the wage and Covid-19 payment would result in a huge number of applicants and would secure the strawberry supply.

Like if it's actually vital then there is no sound argument against it, we closed outdoor construction sites that's causing a huge loss in revenue and business activity so it's clearly not about money it's about security? Why not make it actually secure then if that's the argument.

completedit wrote: »

Are people justified to think that we shouldn't be flying workers in during a time of a health crisis. But does the miss the point. People think the Coronavirus is all or nothing. That's been badly communicated. We are living like this to keep things under control. People coming from outside makes no difference. These may as well be Irish people coming back. It's not like there's an outrage if we saw a lot of Irish people coming back at once. RTE would be there rejoicing at how heroic they are. Why were these workers not cheered for keeping our food supply coming.

Because if they are actually vital to secure our food supply the government should be pulling out all the plugs to get people already resident in Ireland to take up the jobs as our food supply is at stake because countries could easily restrict travel as they don't want a load of their citizens coming back with the virus.

This isn't happening though which means either the government is risking our food supply or the workers are needed for things that aren't actually vital considering construction shut down despite being a bigger section of the economy than fruit and veg.

Both these things can't be true at the same time