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Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

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  • #62
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    s1ippy wrote: »
    My understanding, as told to me by a lad who had tried to get work with them, is that they get food and board on the site and by providing this the company then skirts paying minimum wage, as they're just helpers and not officially employees, only paying them expenses incurred and pocket money.

    Nonsense


  • #63
    Notdeco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    I picked strawberries in a fruit farm up the road when in was a kid.
    5am starts.
    Back breaking work.
    Small pay.




    I’d stay home and take my €350 any day of the week.


    And so would the rest of you virtue signalling hypocrites.
    Lazy ****,


  • #64
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,756 ✭✭✭plodder


    mgn wrote: »
    My point has nothing to do with the job the are doing or immigrants,

    In case you have being living under a rock for the past few weeks, we are in the middle of pandemic and people being brought into the country without being tested.
    Ask any health care worker that the think of it before you start trying to play the race card sh*t with me.
    So, what are they supposed to do? Let the food rot because nobody can pick it.

    Food supply is an essential industry and if they can't find people to do the work here then they have to bring them in from abroad.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • #65
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Keelings Facebook page has some interesting comments. The most stark are those from Health care workers who have described Keelings behaviour as a kick in the teeth to frontline health care staff.
    Major PR disaster for Keelings. My last comment , night all.
    I'm buying extra Keelings produce from now on


  • #66
    LillySV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭LillySV


    Notdeco wrote: »
    So a lot of Irish are without jobs now, and would love to get outside and work.

    Yet people are being flown into the country to work?

    Yea what could go wrong?
    Keelings are going to pay the price for this imo.

    Job description and wages wouldn’t be fancy enough for our Irish.... loads having a continuous party at moment with their 350 plus weekly handout for doing nothing


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  • #67
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Cheerio Keelings. This will be a disaster for them. All over social media now also.


  • #68
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Notdeco wrote: »
    Lazy ****,

    I completely agree that I’m lazy.
    I’m the laziest person you may ever meet.


  • #69
    garyskeepers
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    I picked strawberries in a fruit farm up the road when in was a kid.
    5am starts.
    Back breaking work.
    Small pay.

    Luxury, when I was a kid, we used to get up at 3 am, and hour before we went to bed, and we wouldnt have backs to break


  • #70
    mgn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭mgn


    Donald Trump wrote: »
    The OP wouldn't last a day doing the work. Although would do him no harm to try it for a day.

    And would likely be shite at it anyway.

    I have worked for the past 35+ years and compared to some of the jobs i have done, it would be like a holiday for me.


  • #71
    ted1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,999 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You are describing essential workers, a planeload of people expressly flown to the country to pick fruit does not meet the essential criteria in my eyes. Surely Keelings would have found a willing 200 in the almost 800,000 jobless here.

    They wont be paying more than €350 a week. So those 800,000 would be worse off it they took the job.
    Staff stay on mobile homes on site. They don’t leave the farm.

    Not supporting them just providing clear details


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  • #72
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 920 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Remember this is only the start. The government have given permission for 1500 romanian and hungarian workers to be flown in on charter flights.

    So much for a lockdown and not being able to move more than 2km from home.

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #73
    Notdeco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    declanflynn wrote: »
    Hes like most people, wants employers to pay their staff huge wages and the government to pump money into everything but when food prices and income tax go up hes out on the streets protesting, braindead
    Can't you see that sitting on your arse getting 350 a week is adding to the tax burden?
    Get work were you can makes for good well being, and a lesser tax burden


  • #74
    Sawduck
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    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    I picked strawberries in a fruit farm up the road when in was a kid.
    5am starts.
    Back breaking work.
    Small pay.




    I’d stay home and take my €350 any day of the week.


    And so would the rest of you virtue signalling hypocrites.

    So you are saying it's OK to bring in slave labour workers during a pandemic so people can eat strawberries? Do you not care that this could spread the virus even more, as long as you have your 350 screw every one else


  • #75
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    garyskeepers wrote: »
    Luxury, when I was a kid, we used to get up at 3 am, and hour before we went to bed, and we wouldnt have backs to break

    Don’t be mad.
    Your still a kid.


  • #76
    Madeleine Bewildered Sunset
    Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Madeleine Bewildered Sunset


    declanflynn wrote: »
    A lot of Irish wouldn't do that type of work

    Primarily because you get paid next to nothing. Transition year student would earn about as much on work experience.


  • #77
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Cheerio Keelings. This will be a disaster for them. All over social media now also.
    Doubt it, it will be forgotten in a few days


  • #78
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    The funny thing is ya have lads here that think being paid below min wage is somehow what people should be doing in a high cost country.

    Fairly backward view there. Btw people are out of work temporarily on 350e. The other payment is jobskeers. Get it right please. A pullet of strawberries is at least a fiver and spoils quickly so it ain't cheap.


  • #79
    Notdeco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    declanflynn wrote: »
    Are you Dinny or Miley

    I'm not deco, thank fcuk!


  • #80
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Cheerio Keelings. This will be a disaster for them. All over social media now also.

    Yeah!!
    In true social media form let's hunt a company and force them to close because were too lazy to work for them


  • #81
    GooglePlus
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    This virus has brought out the worst bunch


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  • #82
    statesaver
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    Simon and the rest will be delighted with this, after all the EU freedom of movement is superior to the wellbeing of the people of this country. We wouldn't want to upset the Bulgarians by not letting them in


  • #83
    Gentleman Off The Pitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    Does anyone think before they shriek anymore?


  • #84
    lawrencesummers
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    Sawduck wrote: »
    So you are saying it's OK to bring in slave labour workers during a pandemic so people can eat strawberries? Do you not care that this could spread the virus even more, as long as you have your 350 screw every one else

    Never said any of those things.
    But If I had a choice of 39 hours at min wage or so nothing and get 350, then it’s PlayStation all the way.

    Anyone who would do otherwise is either lying or thick as schit.

    Have you ever picked fruit? If not now is your chance.


  • #85
    whisky_galore
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Cheerio Keelings. This will be a disaster for them. All over social media now also.

    Bet you any of them yummy mummies or dowdy housewives complaining wouldn't dream of sending their little dears fruit picking for a pittance.


  • #86
    Donald Trump
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    mgn wrote: »
    I have worked for the past 35+ years and compared to some of the jobs i have done, it would be like a holiday for me.




    Of course it would. Sure anything must be simple and easy when ya don't ever have to do it yourself :pac:



    Go ahead and try it. I'm sure they'd have weekend work available too if ya want a holiday to get you out of the house. You'd get a quick land and learn fairly quickly that it might not be the holiday you think it is.


    I'd give ya an hour before you'd be slinking off trying to make a speedy getaway.


  • #87
    ballinadog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭ballinadog


    The fact that Keelings chartered the flight and it still pays says a lot. And I’m not talking about it purely from a wages point of view but a productivity point of view. Your kidding yourselves if ya think they could get the Irish to do it, as a nation developing over the years we’ve been garnering a lazier and lazier streak for physical work (which in itself is not a bad thing) but unfortunately some work is still required. I see it myself workin in construction, good labourers are just not around any more. Too many distractions with phones etc. IMO the only dodgy part of this story is that they’re coming in when we are supposedly in lockdown but if they are taking the necessary precautions then best a luck to them.


  • #88
    Graham
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    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Keelings Facebook page has some interesting comments. The most stark are those from Health care workers who have described Keelings behaviour as a kick in the teeth to frontline health care staff.

    :confused:

    Were they hoping to go and pick the strawberries?


  • #89
    [Deleted User]
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    ricero wrote: »
    Absolutely vile stuff. Will be boycotting keelings from now on.

    My local SuperValu sells keelings and also their own brand. Gonna ask them who they buy their own brand strawberries from. Won’t be buying keelings anyway. This is business suicide.

    DONT BLAME THE STRAWBERRY!


  • #90
    declanflynn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Notdeco wrote: »
    Can't you see that sitting on your arse getting 350 a week is adding to the tax burden?
    Get work were you can makes for good well being, and a lesser tax burden
    If Keelings had their 200 pickers made up of hairdressers, beauticians office staff and so on the fruit would be rotten and the company would be broke


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  • #91
    10-10-20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,044 ✭✭✭✭10-10-20


    It's not just Ireland.
    Eastern Europeans to be flown in to pick fruit and veg: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-52293061
    Coronavirus: Farmer says fruit picker shortage could be 'devastating': https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-52109351

    "One reason overseas workers are recruited for these picking roles is that farmers require temporary, flexible workers who will move around the country following the crops."
    "It is often difficult for local people to fill these roles as they are extremely busy for a short space of time - for example, two months to pick apples - with no work for the rest of the year"


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