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Bulgarian workers/Keelings - read OP (threadbans listed)

  • 16-04-2020 09:22PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭mgn


    https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-workers-brought-ireland-pick-seasonal-fruits-1001269

    Keelings charter a flight from Bulgaria to bring in a plane load of fruit pickers, otherwise we would have no strawberries to eat.

    Meanwhile Irish people are in lockdown an not allowed to go to work to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    Whats going on here, why is this sort of thing allowed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,277 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    mgn wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-workers-brought-ireland-pick-seasonal-fruits-1001269

    Keelings charter a flight from Bulgaria to bring in a plane load of fruit pickers, otherwise we would have no strawberries to eat.

    Meanwhile Irish people are in lockdown an not allowed to go to work to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    Whats going on here, why is this sort of thing allowed.

    Keelings confirmed all workers will do 14 days of isolation before being allowed to work

    https://twitter.com/daily_stendhal/status/1250854659167830019


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Did you apply for one of the fruit picking jobs yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    mgn wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-workers-brought-ireland-pick-seasonal-fruits-1001269

    Keelings charter a flight from Bulgaria to bring in a plane load of fruit pickers, otherwise we would have no strawberries to eat.

    Meanwhile Irish people are in lockdown an not allowed to go to work to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    Whats going on here, why is this sort of thing allowed.

    Do you get it, yet? Do you get it?

    The lockdown is not for your safety.
    I think this story is finally going to wake a lot of people up.

    I couldn't attend a family funeral. But 200 Eastern Europeans are allowed to come into Irleand with no questions asked.

    The Police State is disgusting and an attack on Irish people. People will have to be held accountable for this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    This could go all pear shaped for Keelings. Gonna be a lot of sour grapes around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    mgn wrote: »
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/covid-19-workers-brought-ireland-pick-seasonal-fruits-1001269

    Keelings charter a flight from Bulgaria to bring in a plane load of fruit pickers, otherwise we would have no strawberries to eat.

    Meanwhile Irish people are in lockdown an not allowed to go to work to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    Whats going on here, why is this sort of thing allowed.

    The lockdown doesn’t and has never affected people who need to get to work in order to keep the rest of the country fed, regardless of their nationality. I would have thought this goes without saying.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    So a lot of Irish are without jobs now, and would love to get outside and work.

    Yet people are being flown into the country to work?

    Yea what could go wrong?
    Keelings are going to pay the price for this imo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    My understanding, as told to me by a lad who had tried to get work with them, is that they get food and board on the site and by providing this the company then skirts paying minimum wage, as they're just helpers and not officially employees, only paying them expenses incurred and pocket money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    I'm curious as to level of skill the recently imported professional fruit pickers have? Did they train under a Zen master to be one with the fruit or is it as I suspect their willingness to work long hours at physical tough work for a pittance?

    Btw Keelings, I will never buy your products again or off a company you supply to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭mgn


    quokula wrote: »
    The lockdown doesn’t and has never affected people who need to get to work in order to keep the rest of the country fed, regardless of their nationality. I would have thought this goes without saying.

    So you think its okay to fly in a plane load of people to pick strawberries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    :)
    Notdeco wrote: »
    So a lot of Irish are without jobs now, and would love to get outside and work.

    Yet people are being flown into the country to work?

    Yea what could go wrong?
    Kellings are going to pay the price for this imo.

    lol . Are you saying Irish people would get off there arse to pick fruit?

    People who lost there jobs are getting paid 350 a week to sit on the couch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    I'm curious as to level of skill the recently imported professional fruit pickers have? Did they train under a Zen master to be one with the fruit or is it as I suspect their willingness to work long hours at physical tough work for a pittance?

    Btw Keelings, I will never buy your products again or off a company you supply to.
    Euro to a cent its the latter.

    Disgraceful carry on in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    This is exactly why they want refugees and others coming in as it's cheap as chips labour....


    Many many Irish wouldn't dream of these jobs also.....

    We really should look at Australia and so on where anyone coming in has to does these types of jobs for a year and then can move on after....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭mulbot


    The government will come out now with some bull s11t statement. The whole scam is unravelling.


  • Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Irish people are too good for that kind of more now, wouldn't do it.

    I used to know a chap with mushroom tunnels. Couldn't get an Irish person for love or money during the Tiger years. Brought in the Lithuanians and they developed a great relationship. Come the recession everyone wanted him to send them home but sure why would he. Even then, still couldn't keep an Irish person when any new roles arose.

    Fruit and veg picking is hard work and will always be lowly paid. It seems to be a characteristic of developed societies that you can't find people to do low paid menial work with little chance of progression.

    We either too well qualified or else happy to rely on welfare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    I'm curious as to level of skill the recently imported professional fruit pickers have? Did they train under a Zen master to be one with the fruit or is it as I suspect their willingness to work long hours at physical tough work for a pittance?

    Btw Keelings, I will never buy your products again or off a company you supply to.

    Keeling supply Tesco and Aldi. Are these supermarkets on the naughty list now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    quokula wrote: »
    The lockdown doesn’t and has never affected people who need to get to work in order to keep the rest of the country fed, regardless of their nationality. I would have thought this goes without saying.

    You are describing essential workers, a planeload of people expressly flown to the country to pick fruit does not meet the essential criteria in my eyes. Surely Keelings would have found a willing 200 in the almost 800,000 jobless here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭mulbot


    The whole thing is unravelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    :)

    lol . Are you saying Irish people would get off there arse to pick fruit?

    People who lost there jobs are getting paid 350 a week to sit on the couch.

    Exactly this, they wouldn't get €350 for doing that back breaking work....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭mgn


    I'm curious as to level of skill the recently imported professional fruit pickers have? Did they train under a Zen master to be one with the fruit or is it as I suspect their willingness to work long hours at physical tough work for a pittance?

    Btw Keelings, I will never buy your products again or off a company you supply to.

    Its basically slave labour,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Race to the bottom.

    Supply and demand.

    Aldi Lidl.

    Boycott them if it annoys you so much.

    But don't we love the cheap food.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Keeling supply Tesco and Aldi. Are these supermarkets on the naughty list now?

    I thought it was obvious when I said I wouldn't buy the products they supply. I believe Tesco's sells many thousands of products not sourced from Keelings for eg Dairygold, Heinz Ketchup etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    mgn wrote: »
    Its basically slave labour,

    Agreed .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭plodder


    mgn wrote: »
    So you think its okay to fly in a plane load of people to pick strawberries.
    What's your point? You are being done out of a job, or you just don't want immigrants?

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭timetogo1


    mgn wrote: »

    Meanwhile Irish people are in lockdown an not allowed to go to work to stop the spread of Covid-19.

    Whats going on here, why is this sort of thing allowed.

    Where did you get that impression?

    Of course food providers are allowed to work. This is obvious to anybody who's been in a supermarket in the last month.
    I did a quick Google and Keelings are advertising for people. I don't think there's anything stopping you applying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Notdeco


    :)

    lol . Are you saying Irish people would get off there arse to pick fruit?

    People who lost there jobs are getting paid 350 a week to sit on the couch.
    Maybe you, but I'd rather travel and work than sit on my arse!
    And so would many others like to get out of the house and feel like they are doing something.
    But I am still working, if I wasn't and saw people being brought in to work. When there is a work force here, wanting to work. Why the **** would I not be pissed off?!
    It's people like you I hate, always putting down our own.
    When most of us are hard working.

    So many are out of jobs.
    Yet we get dickhead posts like this!

    Shame on you!
    Really. Shame on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭mulbot


    plodder wrote: »
    What's your point? You are being done out of a job, or you just don't want immigrants?

    You've done well to try twist the point, didn't quite work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭declanflynn


    Notdeco wrote: »
    So a lot of Irish are without jobs now, and would love to get outside and work.

    Yet people are being flown into the country to work?

    Yea what could go wrong?
    Keelings are going to pay the price for this imo.
    A lot of Irish wouldn't do that type of work


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    plodder wrote: »
    What's your point? You are being done out of a job, or you just don't want immigrants?

    That's some leap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Absolutely vile stuff. Will be boycotting keelings from now on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,604 ✭✭✭mulbot


    A lot of Irish wouldn't do that type of work

    I'm sure we could've found 200 though who would.


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