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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #9572
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I’m beginning to think that Trump is actually insane.

    Really? Just now? Guy is a clown show.


  • #9573
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    what the actual **** lol


  • #9574
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    wadacrack wrote: »
    So depressing that Trump is the leader of USA in this crisis. This press conference is so weird and totally inappropriate in the middle of a pandemic. Sending the completely wrong messages to the American public.

    EUtIKmYVAAU8hBW.jpg

    From one of his recent press conferences... Like everything else the ba$tard says, it was a lie. Even Justin Bieber is 3 times more popular !


  • #9575
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Wrong type of patriotism for ya I see.
    Maybe prefers St.Patrick's Cross in a multi-hued configuration.


  • #9576
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    KathleenGrant wrote: »
    China are lying their asses off.

    Every country is lying their asses off, Ireland included. Also Germamy if its to be believed, Sweden and so on. Most countries don't include nursing home cases, or those who died at home.


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  • #9577
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    Back from another long shift this weekend. Sitting down watching Trump with a beer and realising that although we are not perfect it could be a lot worse.

    The hospitals are getting busier but a lot of the extra business is "normal" stuff that was sitting at home for 2 weeks. COVID presentations relatively stable. In our institution ICU getting an extra 2-3 per day pretty solidly. Hopefully there will be a point soon where people leave ICU at a similar rate to those coming in. Our ICU is full but we have plenty of extra spaces available yet in pre planned areas that will act as temporary ICUs.

    Many many people are recovering, I think the worldometer figures are not updated because we don't necessarily require negative swabs to be recovered. We still send most COVID queries and some COVID positive patients home.

    I had a discussion with colleagues today and the consensus is that we are managing ok so far. It's not brilliant but certainly it's not disastrous either.

    Regarding the Chinese PPE, it's a mixed bag. Some is ok. Some is more heavy duty than we are used to. Some isn't suitable. It's all been inspected and document has been circulating with pictures and commentary of each piece received. Discussions are ongoing to modify future shipments.

    On the subject of Trump, there was a lot of excuses made in 2016, people were angry, disaffected, anti establishment vote whatever.
    But after Trump's performance in this crisis, any American that still votes Trump is either greedy selfish millionaire, or simply dumb as fcuk.
    No right thinking person could continue to support him after the last few press conferences. I'm nearly getting embarrassed for him at this stage.


  • #9578
    OU812
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭OU812


    Does Trump have shares in the company that produces hydroxychloroquine??


  • #9579
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Ha ha. Just saw a clip of trump saying New York got loads of generators. But they didn’t distribute the generators.

    He meant ventilators.

    What is the point of Trump being given airtime at all anymore? He is doing far more harm than good. He should just leave things to people who actually know what they are talking about.


  • #9580
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Stateofyou wrote: »
    Really? Just now? Guy is a clown show.

    The scary think is that there are tens of millions of Americans that are watching this thinking he's great.


  • #9581
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,698 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I'm nearly in tears watching Trump. It's comical.


    I love when he whispers and talks of drugs he knows nothing of , trying to look like he's educating the room.


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  • #9582
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Is it a big one? I've a very big one. I do have it out in quiet residential areas.

    You a flasher??


  • #9583
    Andrew00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    We're in tears watching Trump. He is so funny


  • #9584
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    breaking out. have got a hold of one of my easter eggs I got 5weeks ago. any ideas for a free film on the tube thats not pandemic or world ending. not too airy or dense either. need a mental decompose night. coladh samh


  • #9585
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    bekker wrote: »
    Our current test appears to be "Out of ICU?", "Still breathing?", "Then I'll just tick 'Recovered' ".

    That's total hogwash.


  • #9586
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    The scary think is that there are tens of millions of Americans that are watching this thinking he's great.

    His numbers are way up of recent. You fear for America not because of Trump but because of American's.


  • #9587
    redarmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭redarmy


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I’m beginning to think that Trump is actually insane. He’s suggesting that it’s a waste of time putting people on ventilators. they’re going to die anyway.
    its more about him than whats going on


  • #9588
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,327 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    The scary think is that there are tens of millions of Americans that are watching this thinking he's great.

    Over 50% of Americans approve of his handling of the crisis


  • #9589
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Every country is lying their asses off, Ireland included. Also Germamy if its to be believed, Sweden and so on. Most countries don't include nursing home cases, or those who died at home.
    Lying? Just economical with the data they really don't have.


  • #9590
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
    Comic value.


  • #9591
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    That's total hogwash.
    No unfortunately, check yesterday's briefing.


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  • #9592
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭storker


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    What is the point of Trump being given airtime at all anymore? He is doing far more harm than good. He should just leave things to people who actually know what they are talking about.

    He's a narcissist who thinks there's no show without Punch.


  • #9593
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
    Comic value.
    I think Woody Allen must be writing the script for these pressers?


  • #9594
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Nonoperational wrote: »
    I would phrase it slightly differently because some of the bad things are difficult to avoid due to the global pressures on supplies etc but in my opinion....

    Good:
    People working very hard with great spirit and work ethic. People doing things outside of the norm no problem. I work with 7 other docs in a group and if there is a hint of an issue with health, childcare etc someone is in within a minute to fill in. That kind of thing.

    Community transmission seems to be suppressed significantly with the new measures. The public are by and large being great and making a big effort.

    The community support for healthcare workers is unbelievable and I actually feel bad. I went to LIDL the other day and these people are playing just as vital a role. It's massively appreciated but sometimes I feel guilty.

    Bad:
    I think hospital staff would be more comfortable with full FFP/N95 masks for all ?COVID encounters. Currently we wear fairly flimsy gowns and surgical masks. Saying that I've done 5x13 hour shifts now and I don't have it yet touch wood so maybe its ok.

    ICU is filling up. We have plans, but if someone is ventilated it takes bloody ages before the turn the corner. It's going to be the obvious potential pinch point. But at the moment we have spaces planned outside the ICU in temporary locations. But that's not indefinite.

    Nursing homes are an obvious concern now.

    The lack of testing needs to be addressed. We can't be running out of reagents or swabs or kits. One morning we couldn't run tests and it caused a delay of 12 hours in discharging patients which had a big knock on effect.
    Thanks on many levels.


  • #9595
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
    Comic value.

    Yep same here

    Watch it during the week only though


  • #9596
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    ''hydroxychloroquine try it, if you like, it's a gift from heaven, its beautiful '' Trump lol

    https://streamable.com/ikd2p5

    Just have to go in and get regular bloods to check liver function and eye tests


  • #9597
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    There also seems to be a north/south divide. Virtually all countries south of the Tropic of Cancer have extremely low rates of deaths per head of population by comparison with the northern countries.
    Maybe there is something in the theory that there is a climate factor at work. I find it hard to believe that they are all lying about their statistics?

    In Australia there’s believed to be several different strains, we are on day 71 and the original Chinese strain accounted for most cases and didn’t seem as lethal as some of the few cases that was traced from Europe, There still community transmission but most cases were brought in from overseas and mostly from Asia and USA.


  • #9598
    rebeve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭rebeve


    @susmitchellSBP: The Business Post got a copy of the HSE’s audit of the PPE consignment from China. Report on this tomorrow. Unfortunately quite a bit of substandard material that is unsuitable. PPE = huge concern for staff. HSE operating in v tough global procurement market. https://twitter.com/susmitchellSBP/status/1246554310827282439/photo/1


  • #9599
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I’m beginning to think that Trump is actually insane.

    His usual supporters and I don't like him but...<the left, leo etc> posters on here have been very quiet lately.

    I just think he realises that he can't con his way out of this and it's getting to him, but his ego is still getting in the way.

    If it doesn't turn into a complete sh1t storm he might still have a chance of being reelected as some of his followers are apparently still posting pictures of their bbqs etc on Twitter under various tags like fakevirus


  • #9600
    Nonoperational
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    blackcard wrote: »
    Seems a very fair summary. What are we doing well?
    What are we doing badly?

    I would phrase it slightly differently because some of the bad things are difficult to avoid due to the global pressures on supplies etc but in my opinion....

    Good:
    People working very hard with great spirit and work ethic. People doing things outside of the norm no problem. I work with 7 other docs in a group and if there is a hint of an issue with health, childcare etc someone is in within a minute to fill in. That kind of thing.

    Community transmission seems to be suppressed significantly with the new measures. The public are by and large being great and making a big effort.

    The community support for healthcare workers is unbelievable and I actually feel bad. I went to LIDL the other day and these people are playing just as vital a role. It's massively appreciated but sometimes I feel guilty.

    Just regarding Trump and his obsession with Hydroxychloroquine we are using Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in a lot of patients that it is appropriate for along with other treatments like tocilizumab in patients that look like they may be developing ARDS. So we are not lacking there.

    Bad:
    I think hospital staff would be more comfortable with full FFP/N95 masks for all ?COVID encounters. Currently we wear fairly flimsy gowns and surgical masks. Saying that I've done 5x13 hour shifts now and I don't have it yet touch wood so maybe its ok.

    ICU is filling up. We have plans, but if someone is ventilated it takes bloody ages before they turn the corner. It's going to be the obvious potential pinch point. But at the moment we have spaces planned outside the ICU in temporary locations. But that's not indefinite.

    Nursing homes are an obvious concern now.

    The lack of testing needs to be addressed. We can't be running out of reagents or swabs or kits. One morning we couldn't run tests and it caused a delay of 12 hours in discharging patients which had a big knock on effect.


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  • #9601
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    We're in tears watching Trump. He is so funny

    Is there another press conference today?


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