CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Stheno wrote: »

CNN.com or I think White House live if you google

If you can forget this is the man with the power to nuke the worlds to oblivion it's quite entertaining

And he looks like a lizard person

darjeeling wrote: »

Now that the worldometers page includes numbers of tests done, here's a plot showing how the test:case ratio correlates with fatality rates.

Average current fatality rate based on closed cases is much higher in countries that have done under 10 tests for every case identified, and much lower in countries with over 40 tests for every case.

The reason is that countries that are doing limited testing relative to the size of the epidemic are failing to detect most of the less severe cases, and this shows up as an apparent higher fatality rate.



In Ireland, 30k tests had been completed by Thursday (IT link)- 6.6 tests for every case identified by today (the number may now be nearer 35k, but I can't find a current figure).
Our current closed case fatality rate is 85%. Assuming the number of patients who have been discharged is reasonably current, this is among the highest case fatality rates of any country. Only the UK and the Netherlands are higher.

To me, this shows how little testing we are doing relative to the size of the epidemic here.

My not very scientific reckoning based on having read / heard a lot and eyeballed a lot of numbers is that we are probably closer to 100,000 cases than 4,600.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just to reply to this. My local priest (bit of an oddball) has a Huge tricolour on display from window of his house.

Originally when he put it out I thought it was in support of the Irish rugby or soccer team but I THINK it’s some sort of patriotic gesture now.

Good few ppl have complained saying it’s out of place in a quiet residential area. I would agree.

darjeeling wrote: »

Now that the worldometers page includes numbers of tests done, here's a plot showing how the test:case ratio correlates with fatality rates.

Average current fatality rate based on closed cases is much higher in countries that have done under 10 tests for every case identified, and much lower in countries with over 40 tests for every case.

The reason is that countries that are doing limited testing relative to the size of the epidemic are failing to detect most of the less severe cases, and this shows up as an apparent higher fatality rate.



In Ireland, 30k tests had been completed by Thursday (IT link)- 6.6 tests for every case identified by today (the number may now be nearer 35k, but I can't find a current figure).
Our current closed case fatality rate is 85%. Assuming the number of patients who have been discharged is reasonably current, this is among the highest case fatality rates of any country. Only the UK and the Netherlands are higher.

To me, this shows how little testing we are doing relative to the size of the epidemic here.

My not very scientific reckoning based on having read / heard a lot and eyeballed a lot of numbers is that we are probably closer to 100,000 cases than 4,600.

blackcard wrote: »

What are the other reasons for the different numbers?

Ray Donovan wrote: »

People complaining about a tricolour flying from their neighbour's house?

Imagine complaining about a US flag flying in America.

Where do live? South Co Dublin?

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Just to reply to this. My local priest (bit of an oddball) has a Huge tricolour on display from window of his house.

Originally when he put it out I thought it was in support of the Irish rugby or soccer team but I THINK it’s some sort of patriotic gesture now.

Good few ppl have complained saying it’s out of place in a quiet residential area. I would agree.

blackcard wrote: »

So breaking countries death rates per million into groups, you get the following;
Spain and Italy at 251 and 254. Spain going to overtake Italy shortly
France, Belgium, Holland and Switzerland at 116, 111, 96 and 77.
So far neighbouring EU countries.
UK at 64.
Iran an outlier at 41. Neighbouring countries a lot lower. Even Turkey at 6.
Sweden at 37 on a bit of a solo run as regards a lockdown.
Ireland, Denmark, Greece, Portugal, Austria at 28, 28, 28, 26 and 21
So far generally EU countries. Probably travel related.
USA at 25.
Germany an outlier at 17. What are they doing right?
All Eastern European countries very low numbers. Russia 0.3 Rest of the world very low.
China at 2?????????????????
Almost definitely, there are differences in the way that some countries are reporting. Not including homes for the elderly.
What are the other reasons for the different numbers?

froog wrote: »

the closed case fatality figure is meaningless. we aren't prioritizing recovered testing due to lack of test kits. i think you need two negative tests or something to be officially declared "recovered". most likely we have 1000+ actually recovered right now.

namloc1980 wrote: »

The national flag is out of place flying in Ireland!? Some people are very weird.