CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Irish_rat · 04-04-2020 06:05PM

Is 4600 including those who died and those who recovered. If so they should not be included as active cases

Sober Crappy Chemis · 04-04-2020 06:05PM

Cazale wrote: »

My friends 35 year old brother is in a coma and on a ventilator the last week. Not looking too good for him. He worked in an office with 25 people and another worker is in the same icu. Both of them have asthma. Before he got really sick he was saying they was a girl in there with all the symptoms who refused to go home and their manager didn't care. Two people critical or worse because of that carelessness. Really is important that we keep this going because you don't know who your actions might affect.

Scary stuff. Jaysus.

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 06:05PM

Cazale wrote: »

My friends 35 year old brother is in a coma and on a ventilator the last week. Not looking too good for him. He worked in an office with 25 people and another worker is in the same icu. Both of them have asthma. Before he got really sick he was saying they was a girl in there with all the symptoms who refused to go home and their manager didn't care. Two people critical or worse because of that carelessness. Really is important that we keep this going because you don't know who your actions might affect.

That employer should be charged for workplace death.

dodzy · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Here's an interesting chart showing the comparison on a per capita basis since first case. Glad I'm not in New York. Terrifying.

Amazing;)

Achasanai · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

No because this is Ireland and the Civil Service mentality is still alive and well.

The Department of Health release the figures, so there are civil servants working today.

eagle eye · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

Rob A. Bank wrote:

We are talking about coronavirus deaths here... I repeat :-

I want to compare Irish deaths average with the number of deaths in recent days. I want to see if there's an increase and what the difference in increase is minus the reported covid-19 deaths. I'm trying to see if we are reporting things correctly.

owlbethere · 04-04-2020 06:06PM

Cazale wrote: »

My friends 35 year old brother is in a coma and on a ventilator the last week. Not looking too good for him. He worked in an office with 25 people and another worker is in the same icu. Both of them have asthma. Before he got really sick he was saying they was a girl in there with all the symptoms who refused to go home and their manager didn't care. Two people critical or worse because of that carelessness. Really is important that we keep this going because you don't know who your actions might affect.

I'm so sorry to read this. I hope he pulls through. I hope his colleagues get better too. X

spookwoman · 04-04-2020 06:07PM

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246484194479476737?s=20

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246484200888455177?s=20

marilynrr · 04-04-2020 06:08PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what are "clusters"

It's where in a particular area or place like a nursing home the virus has spread among a group.

Also more than likely when they do the contact tracing they can trace it back to an initial case.

MrMusician18 · 04-04-2020 06:08PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what are "clusters"

Groups of 3 or more cases in the same setting - e.g. house, nursing home, place of work.

lawrencesummers · 04-04-2020 06:09PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Looking at the deaths they look stable. (Obviously not good) and we're at half the deaths per million of the uk.

I think that’s the only number (Deaths) that’s accurate and relevant as to how we are coping unfortunately. The testing has rendered the “daily cases” figure irrelevant so until we see the death rate declining we don’t know what’s happening The “curve”

Beasty · 04-04-2020 06:11PM

Andrew00 wrote: »

Can someone explain to me what are "clusters"

3 or more diagnosed in a small area (eg house, nursing home, Clayton Hotel (OK let's not go there:pac:)) within a 72 hour period is what I read. Not sure how big the area can be - if for example 3 in a village would count, but the idea is that one person may have infected others at the location rather than people independently contracting it

CIARAN_BOYLE · 04-04-2020 06:12PM

Beasty wrote: »

3 or more diagnosed in a small area (eg house, nursing home, Clayton Hotel (OK let's not go there:pac:)) within a 72 hour period is what I read. Not sure how big the area can be - if for example 3 in a village would count, but the idea is that one person may have infected others at the location rather than people independently contracting it

If they trace contact between 3 cases it's also a cluster.

Sober Crappy Chemis · 04-04-2020 06:14PM

Beasty wrote: »

3 or more diagnosed in a small area (eg house, nursing home, Clayton Hotel (OK let's not go there:pac:)) within a 72 hour period is what I read. Not sure how big the area can be - if for example 3 in a village would count, but the idea is that one person may have infected others at the location rather than people independently contracting it

Well played sir, well played!

speckle · 04-04-2020 06:16PM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246484194479476737?s=20

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246484200888455177?s=20

I would say to the boss I will sue/report you if you dont let me wear a mask and then say to the boss I will sue you if you dimiss me later.
Then I would explain to the patients why I wear a mask in approiate terms depending on the client.
Which should have already been done by the manager anyhow.
Hope that makes sense.

humberklog · 04-04-2020 06:17PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I think that’s the only number (Deaths) that’s accurate and relevant as to how we are coping unfortunately. The testing has rendered the “daily cases” figure irrelevant so until we see the death rate declining we don’t know what’s happening The “curve”

Over on the Worldometer site there's a handy chart. I think the number of cases with the number of tests combined with the number of tests per 1m is as important as deaths. Makes interesting reading.

owlbethere · 04-04-2020 06:18PM

I had one eye on the news for the deaf. It said, in march people infected with Covid-19, went on to infect on average 4.5 people. Now, the average is 2.5 people. The number needs to come down to 1.

This is good news to me and tells me the social distancing is working.

They need to bring the number down to 1. How will this work? Will they have to tighten the restrictions some more?

How will it work for families? Surely, if one member of a household picks up the virus, it will then get into the household and spread around the household?

podgeandrodge · 04-04-2020 06:20PM

Can I clarify, when they say that there are 331 newly confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland today, bringing the total number to 4,604 in the Republic of Ireland, are the 4,604 still current, or do they include previous cases that might now be recovered? Thanks.

Mervyn Skidmore · 04-04-2020 06:21PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

That employer should be charged for workplace death.

Sensationalism at its best.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 04-04-2020 06:22PM

Stheno wrote: »

Rubella was given in school when you were 12/13

BCG was a baby/ toddler vaccine iirc

I have the mark's but dont remember getting it

Other way round. BCG was one I got in primary school. Rubella as a baby - the MMR vaccine.

rusty the athlete · 04-04-2020 06:22PM

fr336 wrote: »

Even trump called the uk herd immunity idea madness. Trump!

Oh come on. The trump-20 virus mutates many times a day. Guarantee that within two minutes he would say its a great idea, withing four minutes he never said it at all and within 6 minutes it would be all China's fault.

spookwoman · 04-04-2020 06:22PM

speckle wrote: »

I would say to the boss I will sue/report you if you dont let me wear a mask and then say to the boss I will sue you if you dimiss me later.
Then I would explain to the patients why I wear a mask in approiate terms depending on the client.
Which should have already been done by the manager anyhow.
Hope that makes sense.

And if reported to official channels they would probably take their time to investigate. Probably only way to sort out would be to sneaky video

owlbethere · 04-04-2020 06:23PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

I think that’s the only number (Deaths) that’s accurate and relevant as to how we are coping unfortunately. The testing has rendered the “daily cases” figure irrelevant so until we see the death rate declining we don’t know what’s happening The “curve”

I was thinking about this. .

There are a lot of restrictions that the population for the most part are adhering too.

Unfortunately the virus got into nursing homes where the residents would be more susceptible to the virus.

I think we might need to get a breakdown of the figures, like deaths from nursing homes and deaths from hospitals.

Stheno · 04-04-2020 06:24PM

Cazale wrote: »

My friends 35 year old brother is in a coma and on a ventilator the last week. Not looking too good for him. He worked in an office with 25 people and another worker is in the same icu. Both of them have asthma. Before he got really sick he was saying they was a girl in there with all the symptoms who refused to go home and their manager didn't care. Two people critical or worse because of that carelessness. Really is important that we keep this going because you don't know who your actions might affect.

I hope they both come through this

Hector Savage · 04-04-2020 06:26PM

So Italy has seemed to flatten the curve ... but not dropping yet, even at 4.5k cases a day every day you'd imagine this would be too much .... what next ??

Like how f*ckin long do they need total lockdown for cases to start dropping ???

I thought the idea was after the curve flattened it dropped , not just stay on and on and on and on and on and on and ****ING ON!!!

Achasanai · 04-04-2020 06:27PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I had one eye on the news for the deaf. It said, in march people infected with Covid-19, went on to infect on average 4.5 people. Now, the average is 2.5 people. The number needs to come down to 1.

This is good news to me and tells me the social distancing is working.

They need to bring the number down to 1. How will this work? Will they have to tighten the restrictions some more?

How will it work for families? Surely, if one member of a household picks up the virus, it will then get into the household and spread around the household?

It's kind of what Tony was saying in his briefing: while the rise in cases is 'manageable' we need to get it down even further or there will be that surge that will hit the hospitals hard. We're still tracking Italy nearly exactly, so if we're two weeks behind them (perhaps not even if we have a backlog in results) we might see further restrictions needing to be enforced.

Ficheall · 04-04-2020 06:27PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I had one eye on the news for the deaf. It said, in march people infected with Covid-19, went on to infect on average 4.5 people. Now, the average is 2.5 people. The number needs to come down to 1.

This is good news to me and tells me the social distancing is working.

They need to bring the number down to 1. How will this work? Will they have to tighten the restrictions some more?

Well, they could just keep testing fewer and fewer people...

Hector Savage · 04-04-2020 06:27PM

China should be fined TRILLIONS .... TRILLIONS .... and that money used to compensate the economies they have ****ing DESTROYED...

The countries of Spain and Italy WILL NOT EXIST in 6 months time ....

spookwoman · 04-04-2020 06:27PM

owlbethere wrote: »

I was thinking about this. .

There are a lot of restrictions that the population for the most part are adhering too.

Unfortunately the virus got into nursing homes where the residents would be more susceptible to the virus.

I think we might need to get a breakdown of the figures, like deaths from nursing homes and deaths from hospitals.

Those that made it to icu can spend a few weeks in there and it can take that long for them to succumb to the disease.

Stheno · 04-04-2020 06:28PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Other way round. BCG was one I got in primary school. Rubella as a baby - the MMR vaccine.

I was a 70s baby we didn't have MMR then

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP