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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #9122
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    There's going to be a large number of deaths no matter what way you try, especially if you are late to lockdown like the UK and US. Britain will be lucky to get below 1000 deaths a day during the peak as is. The US lucky to be under 3000 a day and maybe even 5000. And what happens if you lift lockdown? Same all over again.

    The problem at the moment is we don't know whose infected. Its the large number of mild and asymptomatic spreaders who will be the problem.

    If we had a vaccine in the next 3 months lockdown is a great idea. But it could be 12 months or 18 months before we have one. No way lockdown can be sustained that long. Another plan will be required. Controlled spread may be one. There are others I'm sure. You might even have one?

    Antiviral meds and/or cheap and reliable self-testing would be great.


  • #9123
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    No because this is Ireland and the Civil Service mentality is still alive and well.

    Yawn.


  • #9124
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Avalyn Flabby Beefsteak wrote: »
    Sure but will they release the figures or no?

    Yes the figures will be released. Don`t know at what time yet though.


  • #9125
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Significant drop in Italian daily fatalities:

    https://twitter.com/electo_mania/status/1246470023062999046
    Continuing good news from Italy

    Dead/Resolved 15,362/36358 = 42.25%

    Now below 43% for 3rd day, was in 44+>45+% box since abt. 10th.Mar, moved to 43-44% box late Mar., hopefully below 40% by next week.

    In other countries that point has normally been the start of an accelerating downward trend as health service regains control.


  • #9126
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,127 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    No because this is Ireland and the Civil Service mentality is still alive and well.

    Beyond releasing the numbers the press conferences have been quite tedious. Irish journos ask shit questions tbh.


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  • #9127
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,066 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    billyhead wrote: »
    How many can we expect to die from this virus in a good or bad case scenario?

    I think it will be kept to below several thousand here, that's with tremendous effort.

    Long term it will mean face masks for months hand washing for the rest of the year, mass testing as normal, hometests, etc, passengers tested before flying, tested on landing etc, 10 minute tests nearly ready etc.

    It will allow some normality till treatments are ready.


  • #9128
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    There's going to be a large number of deaths no matter what way you try, especially if you are late to lockdown like the UK and US. Britain will be lucky to get below 1000 deaths a day during the peak as is. The US lucky to be under 3000 a day and maybe even 5000. And what happens if you lift lockdown? Same all over again.

    The problem at the moment is we don't know whose infected. Its the large number of mild and asymptomatic spreaders who will be the problem.

    If we had a vaccine in the next 3 months lockdown is a great idea. But it could be 12 months or 18 months before we have one.

    The hope at present is that the worldwide trails on antiviral drugs, re-purposed existing drugs and recovered peoples serum will lead to positive results.

    If it became possible to stop, or modify, the deterioration of lung function in the most afflicted, that would make a huge difference to the outcomes.

    A safe and effective vaccine is realistically not possible in the near future.

    The longer we can keep the virus at bay... the better the chances of something positive happening.


  • #9129
    easypazz
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    Will these issue numbers today?


  • #9130
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭kyote00


    Today on BBC news, it was mentioned that UK deaths in nursing/care homes are not being counted - example of 7 deaths in a Scottish home this week.

    Are we counting care home deaths here ?


  • #9131
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 4 April 2020 @ 08:00 hrs

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-04-04.png?itok=3UKvvlNI

    I think it is fair to say a plateau on the daily cases in Europe over the last 10 days.

    Maybe even a slight downward trend in spite of the increased figure for today.

    Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea


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  • #9132
    Be right back
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    No because this is Ireland and the Civil Service mentality is still alive and well.

    Or maybe they're allowed days off like the rest of us too?


  • #9133
    d51984
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭d51984


    Thanks so much everyone for all the kind words, it means a lot.

    Look after each other and stay safe, were a great little country when we want to be.

    God bless you all.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



  • #9134
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    kyote00 wrote: »
    Today on BBC news, it was mentioned that UK deaths in nursing/care homes are not being counted - example of 7 deaths in a Scottish home this week.

    Are we counting care home deaths here ?
    We are counting all those who tested positive, so to the extent they have tested in nursing homes, yes. What we do not know is how many may have died infected but untested (in nursing homes or elsewhere)


  • #9135
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    bekker wrote: »
    Continuing good news from Italy

    Dead/Resolved 15,362/36358 = 42.25%

    Now below 43% for 3rd day, was in 44+>45+% box since abt. 10th.Mar, moved to 43-44% box late Mar., hopefully below 40% by next week.

    In other countries that point has normally been the start of an accelerating downward trend as health service regains control.


    Also the number of patients in ICU in Italy is down for the first time.
    Today it was also announced that Italy has managed to increase the number of ICU beds from 5000 to 9000.


  • #9136
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 4 April 2020 @ 08:00 hrs

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-04-04.png?itok=3UKvvlNI

    I think it is fair to say a plateau on the daily cases in Europe over the last 10 days.

    Maybe even a slight downward trend in spite of the increased figure for today.

    Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

    I presume that difference in today is france declaring the nursing home numbers etc. But it does seem to have hit a level in europe now. Hopefully the next few weeks see a downward trend even with the UK seemingly now on the sharp incline


  • #9137
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/CorkSafetyAlert/status/1246477115177996288?s=20


  • #9138
    Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Interesting video about low cost ventilators, the channel has loads of other good videos about engineering



  • #9139
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    d51984 wrote: »
    Thanks so much everyone for all the kind words, it means a lot.

    Look after each other and stay safe, were a great little country when we want to be.

    God bless you all.

    So sorry about your uncle


  • #9140
    trashcan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,370 ✭✭✭trashcan


    d51984 wrote: »
    Ive just lost my uncle about an hour ago to Covid 19. Its hit home very hard now.

    Please please please stay in and stay safe everyone.

    Sincere condolences. It's all well and good for people to talk about the numbers of deaths in theory and try to balance it against the economic impact in some way, but these are real people with families. It's tragic. The economy can recover.


  • #9141
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1246477706411356160?s=20


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  • #9142
    harr
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    17 death and 331 new cases , as per usual the weekend numbers always seem lower


  • #9143
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    billyhead wrote: »
    How many can we expect to die from this virus in a good or bad case scenario?

    Have a read of this thread.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062219


  • #9144
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246477982329421825?s=20


  • #9145
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    d51984 wrote: »
    Thanks so much everyone for all the kind words, it means a lot.

    Look after each other and stay safe, were a great little country when we want to be.

    God bless you all.

    Condolences... I feel for you at this terrible time.

    May I offer you Joe Bidon's comforting quote:-

    “Some day when your uncles face and his name comes to your mind, a smile will come to your lips before a tear will come to your eye.”


  • #9146
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/CorkSafetyAlert/status/1246477115177996288?s=20

    Not too bad. Staying at manageable levels. Deaths and new cases haven't been growing. Looking at those figures it's likely that we are in or around our peak but I feel our peak will carry on for a few weeks.


  • #9147
    speckle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    d51984 wrote: »
    Ive just lost my uncle about an hour ago to Covid 19. Its hit home very hard now.

    Please please please stay in and stay safe everyone.
    May he rest in peace now and your family find some solace in the future. Take care of yourself. If you or a family member is finding it, real hard let us know and we can try to post or point you the direction of services that might help.
    Ar dheis De go raibh a ainm.


  • #9148
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Not too bad. Staying at manageable levels. Deaths and new cases haven't been growing. Looking at those figures it's likely that we are in or around our peak but I feel our peak will carry on for a few weeks.

    Tomorrow there wi be a big spike in case numbers as German lab capacity will add into our results.


  • #9149
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246477982329421825?s=20

    Increase of 10 in ICU


  • #9150
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,845 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Another very small number of cases again today.

    I predict more and more people will start flouting the restrictions in the coming days.


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  • #9151
    BrianJD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭BrianJD


    Is there a graph available showing the daily death rates and cases and showing an up to date curve?


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