CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

keynes wrote: »

UK government is considering reverting to herd immunity. This is the worst possible situation for us: our economy still in lockdown (with theirs recovering) and multiple flights still coming in from the UK every hour as their herd immunity policy (i.e., spread the virus quickly) runs its course

The UK Cabinet at work !

shocksy wrote: »

You should have told them to mind their own f*cking business and police the towns and not people on a national road ffs. Fools. It's not a crime to drive your car.

That would be escalation and unlikely to help anything. I'd say consider asking his name, make a note of his reg and making a complaint.

It's for your self-preservation as much as anything. He could ask you to step out of the car, suddenly you're exposed to everything all the jokers and scumbags he's been around the past week have. He might even arrest you to "teach you a lesson" or some such. Never underestimate how crazy and stupid people can be. You don't try to argue with a bull, you try to be inconspicuous and get the **** away. In this time self-preservation is key, it's every man for himself.

paleoperson wrote: »

That would be escalation and unlikely to help anything. I'd say consider asking his name, make a note of his reg and making a complaint.

It's for your self-preservation as much as anything. He could ask you to step out of the car, suddenly you're exposed to everything all the jokers and scumbags he's been around the past week have. He might even arrest you to "teach you a lesson" or some such. Never underestimate how crazy and stupid people can be. You don't try to argue with a bull, you try to be inconspicuous and get the **** away. In this time self-preservation is key, it's every man for himself.

imagine if Padraig Pearse and his brethren had of had this mentality in 1916

normanoffside wrote: »

Am I right in saying if we were counting deaths the same way as the UK (i.e. only hospital deaths counted) we would only have 15?

Does that show that the real numbers in the UK must be nearly 10 times higher?

It's not just the NHS and HSE that are not capturing all deaths attributable* to COVID-19, it's true of virtually every country and is an insoluble problem. Even in retrospect it will be impossible to establish with any great degree of accuracy, you can't analyse that doesn't exist the first place*.

Organisations are only concerned in generating statistics for their own purposes, so HSE, NHS etc. have no interest in deaths outside their silos. Depts of Health may look at other deaths, but for different purposes and utilising different reporting systems. National statistical services do collate all deaths from death certificates* but often are only concerned with deriving annual figure.

Added to that there has always been a genuine difference of medical opinion on attribution* of cause of death where there are underlying conditions, different countries treat differently.

All in all one can only hope compare national figures over time with any degree of certainty.

A good way of avoiding the queues currently is going outside "licensing" hours.

bekker wrote: »

It's not just the NHS and HSE that are not capturing all deaths attributable* to COVID-19, it's true of virtually every country and is an insoluble problem. Even in retrospect it will be impossible to establish with any great degree of accuracy, you can't analyse that doesn't exist the first place*.

Organisations are only concerned in generating statistics for their own purposes, so HSE, NHS etc. have no interest in deaths outside their silos. Depts of Health may look at other deaths, but for different purposes and utilising different reporting systems. National statistical services do collate all deaths from death certificates* but often are only concerned with deriving annual figure.

Added to that there has always been a genuine difference of medical opinion on attribution* of cause of death where there are underlying conditions, different countries treat differently.

All in all one can only hope compare national figures over time with any degree of certainty.

Yes but we have only had (I think) 15 deaths in Hospital.
We are counting the vast majority of our deaths outside of Hospital.

When is the Irish update?

Hippykitten wrote: »

When is the Irish update?

132 deaths 4500 cases 2/1

TOMs WIFE wrote: »

Staff in supermarkets more aware of distancing themselves and practicing hand washing than their customers?

most are very good but not all like the one in lidli I had to take to task who sneezed/coughed in their gloved hand at the till. I was nice but assertive about it. Hope they understand now.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Actually it is very much the Gardai business now. Anyone who refuses to account for their movements should be regarded as an enemy of the state and the Irish people. The softly softly approach needs to come to an end.

The Russians are giving up to 7 years in jail for those who break quarantine.

That lunatic Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines wants to shoot lockdown violators.

I prefer our own Garda response... thank you.

Bushmaster64 wrote: »

If you looked out your window and your favourite pornstar was in the garden beckoning you out, but told you she had a cough and a bit of a fever.

Would you smash or pass?

What an idiotic question.

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What an idiotic question.

I know.



Smash it is. :cool:

Bushmaster64 wrote: »

If you looked out your window and your favourite pornstar was in the garden beckoning you out, but told you she had a cough and a bit of a fever.

Would you smash or pass?

What level of PPE are we talking here?