CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

FishOnABike · 04-04-2020 03:25PM

Wombatman wrote: »

We have higher deaths per million and higher cases per million. Why single out the US?

If one person in Ireland spreads the virus to four others and one person in the US spreads it to 240 others which country is doing a better job of containing an outbreak?

Hobgoblin11 · 04-04-2020 03:26PM

storker wrote: »

Maybe he's in an ICU.

more probably he's in the RCSI

Covid19 · 04-04-2020 03:28PM

Just back from trying to get supplies in Tesco, Swinford. I could not get in as the que was at least 35 strong outside the doors. In the town, there were dozens of groups of folks in 3's and 4's, median age of 60, merrily chatting away to each other along the street. The town seemed as busy as a normal Saturday. Then, on the way back home on the N17, a Garda in an unmarked car pulled me over and asked where I was off to. Very conflicting experience.

Hobgoblin11 · 04-04-2020 03:29PM

Covid19 wrote: »

Just back from trying to get supplies in Tesco, Swinford. I could not get in as the que was at least 35 strong outside the doors. In the town, there were dozens of groups of folks in 3's and 4's, median age of 60, merrily chatting away to each other along the street. The town seemed as busy as a normal Saturday. Then, on the way back home on the N17, a Garda in an unmarked car pulled me over and asked where I was off to. Very conflicting experience.

maybe they were families in 3s and 4s?

Wombatman · 04-04-2020 03:30PM

FishOnABike wrote: »

If one person in Ireland spreads the virus to four others and one person in the US spreads it to 240 others which country is doing a better job of containing an outbreak?

You are talking about ifs and hypotheticals. I'm talking about stats and facts.

OscarMIlde · 04-04-2020 03:31PM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

In Germany if you die of cardiac arrest after coming off a ventilator they are stating you died of a heart attack etc. If you drown while on a ventilator you are dying of pneumonia etc etc. They are not including cause of death as Covid 19. My understanding being that in the future the German health system will look to be classifying exactly what strain of Covid the victims had, they will revise their stats down the line once they are satisfied. Germans are very thorough, they don't spoof. Watch for updates on their statistics.

German's don'T spoof? I must have imagined that whole Volkswagen emissions scandal a few years back.

Hobgoblin11 · 04-04-2020 03:32PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

German's don'T spoof? I must have imagined that whole Volkswagen emissions scandal a few years back.

and those gas chambers in 1945

endainoz · 04-04-2020 03:32PM

FVP3 wrote: »

Sure. Not a conspiracy theorist at all but the Chinese started a biological war against their own people in the knowledge that they could handle it and that the West, particularly the US, couldn't.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all but if this is a biowarfare the US is the one likely to have started it. However it was probably accidental.

So sure your not, you had to mention it twice.

zinfandel · 04-04-2020 03:32PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Many elderly in nursing have signed a DNR or No Heroic interventions form . They would have signed long before Covid 19 reared its ugly head

this is true, this was one of the first things that was discussed when my parents entered nursing homes years ago.

rusty the athlete · 04-04-2020 03:35PM

Sean 18 wrote: »

I wonder what will happen when the schools open in September must they all repeat a year even in primary school they will have to make their communion next year I can't see them going ahead this year

I think there are far more important things to consider than communions right now.

Cody montana · 04-04-2020 03:35PM

USA getting close to 300 thousand cases.

Covid19 · 04-04-2020 03:36PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

maybe they were families in 3s and 4s?

Sadly, no.

shocksy · 04-04-2020 03:36PM

Covid19 wrote: »

Then, on the way back home on the N17, a Garda in an unmarked car pulled me over and asked where I was off to. Very conflicting experience.

You should have told them to mind their own f*cking business and police the towns and not people on a national road ffs. Fools. It's not a crime to drive your car.

speckle · 04-04-2020 03:36PM

Achasanai wrote: »

I think the benefit is that most older people - who would be at most risk now - have it, although if as you say it was only started in the 1950s that might not apply. I read something about 'learned immunity', but not sure if that applies to this vaccine.

depends what age the got it in the 50s. if they gave it to everyone 10 and under in 1950. most people under 80 would have had it. if they gave it to newborns only those under 70.

endainoz · 04-04-2020 03:36PM

dangerous quack wrote: »

I hope you told the Guard that it’s none of his business. You aren’t committing any crime

Only a person actively looking for conflict would say that. No fan of the guards myself but it's pretty simple just to say they were at the shop instead of agression.

paleoperson · 04-04-2020 03:37PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

German's don'T spoof? I must have imagined that whole Volkswagen emissions scandal a few years back.

Soon every country will be spoofing. They are under enormous economic pressure to do so. Tons of people are dying already at home without being diagnosed as with coronavirus. That's just in Italy.

About 50% of the population will like get it and 2%-5% will die.

lastusername · 04-04-2020 03:37PM

Covid19 wrote: »

Just back from trying to get supplies in Tesco, Swinford. I could not get in as the que was at least 35 strong outside the doors. In the town, there were dozens of groups of folks in 3's and 4's, median age of 60, merrily chatting away to each other along the street. The town seemed as busy as a normal Saturday. Then, on the way back home on the N17, a Garda in an unmarked car pulled me over and asked where I was off to. Very conflicting experience.

Interesting choice of username! :eek:

I don't go near supermarkets on a Saturday or even the weekend. Better to go on weekday mornings or at least off-peak if you can. Why would you be queuing outside unless Saturday is the only time you can go.

fr336 · 04-04-2020 03:38PM

My mother, 70 years old with various underlying conditions - asthma, irregular heart rhythm, under active thyroid and prone to really bad chest infections in the past - has had a bout of something for almost 2 weeks now...ironically started day after Boris announced lockdown here. Started off with vomiting and stomach pain, then an irregular chesty cough and has been up and down since but mainly improving. Today she says she feels back to normal again apart from the cough which has been abating. At the start I hoped to god it wasn't corona but now she seems over it I'm thinking that's some bloody coincidence isn't it? Especially as we are in south east of England. I thought if mum got this then at the very least she would be in hospital but is it possible that even many over 70s with health conditions may just be able to get over this at home? One thing I'd say is all her conditions are very well controlled whereas some people don't have this whether through bad luck or choice. I'm probably clutching at straws but the timing is suspect right?

Covid19 · 04-04-2020 03:38PM

lastusername wrote: »

Interesting choice of username! :eek:

I don't go near supermarkets on a Saturday or even the weekend. Better to go on weekday mornings or at least off-peak if you can. Why would you be queuing outside unless Saturday is the only time you can go.

Why thank you. 😎

lastusername · 04-04-2020 03:39PM

shocksy wrote: »

You should have told them to mind their own f*cking business and police the towns and not people on a national road ffs. Fools. It's not a crime to drive your car.

The Guards are on O'Connell St! Plus a national road is the right place to intercept people who might be chancing heading down the road to a mate's or to family, etc, when they don't have to. Stay at or near home.

normanoffside · 04-04-2020 03:39PM

Am I right in saying if we were counting deaths the same way as the UK (i.e. only hospital deaths counted) we would only have 15?

Does that show that the real numbers in the UK must be nearly 10 times higher?

Hobgoblin11 · 04-04-2020 03:39PM

lastusername wrote: »

Interesting choice of username! :eek:

I don't go near supermarkets on a Saturday or even the weekend. Better to go on weekday mornings or at least off-peak if you can. Why would you be queuing outside unless Saturday is the only time you can go.

there are queues every day!

lastusername · 04-04-2020 03:40PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

there are queues every day!

Depends where you are I guess, I don't see them where I am outside those peak times.

Speak Now · 04-04-2020 03:41PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

there are queues every day!

No there isn't.

Rob A. Bank · 04-04-2020 03:41PM

keynes wrote: »

UK government is considering reverting to herd immunity. This is the worst possible situation for us: our economy still in lockdown (with theirs recovering) and multiple flights still coming in from the UK every hour as their herd immunity policy (i.e., spread the virus quickly) runs its course

The UK Cabinet at work !

Hobgoblin11 · 04-04-2020 03:41PM

lastusername wrote: »

Depends where you are I guess, I don't see them where I am outside those peak times.

I'm in co Dublin , Irish epicentre

paleoperson · 04-04-2020 03:41PM

shocksy wrote: »

You should have told them to mind their own f*cking business and police the towns and not people on a national road ffs. Fools. It's not a crime to drive your car.

That would be escalation and unlikely to help anything. I'd say consider asking his name, make a note of his reg and making a complaint.

It's for your self-preservation as much as anything. He could ask you to step out of the car, suddenly you're exposed to everything all the jokers and scumbags he's been around the past week have. He might even arrest you to "teach you a lesson" or some such. Never underestimate how crazy and stupid people can be. You don't try to argue with a bull, you try to be inconspicuous and get the **** away. In this time self-preservation is key, it's every man for himself.

lastusername · 04-04-2020 03:43PM

Speak Now wrote: »

No there isn't.

Exactly and I really wonder if people have much common sense if they are doing their regular weekly shop on a Saturday still, if they could easily do it another time!

04-04-2020 03:43PM

ifElseThen wrote: »

Nurse from my old man's nursing home rang on Thurs to say he tested positive. Another woman rang from the home yest and said he is comfortable. Spoke to him myself and he said he is fine but he sounds like he has a cold. I guess as long as he is still in the home and not needing ICU, my fingers will be crossed that he gets through it.

I’m not saying I agree with this system (as someone with a very elderly grandparent who is luckily cared for at home) but I’ve heard from people working in certain elderly care environments that they have been informed their patients will not be getting treatment for Covid-19. Now I assume by that they mean extensive hospital/icu treatment rather than treatment in situ.

Cork Boy 53 · 04-04-2020 03:43PM

dangerous quack wrote: »

I hope you told the Guard that it’s none of his business. You aren’t committing any crime

Actually it is very much the Gardai business now. Anyone who refuses to account for their movements should be regarded as an enemy of the state and the Irish people. The softly softly approach needs to come to an end.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP