CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Funsterdelux · 04-04-2020 11:35AM

awec wrote: »

Are you still spouting this nonsense?

"Lambasted anyone who warned of the incoming disaster". You were lambasted because you were as full of it then as you are now. According to you, and the rest of the misery merchants, we were to be essentially eating the goo out of each others heads at this point.

Does lice count?

mikeoc85 · 04-04-2020 11:35AM

MadYaker wrote: »

It’ll be interesting alright. I think the numbers will be slightly higher but not massively.

Yes me too. I lost all my grandparents to what from the outside seem like minor illnesses but they all hand underlying conditions as they were all well into their 80’s.

It’s striking down people that are perfectly healthy that is worrying...it doesn’t seem to be doing that expect in very very very rare cases (0.01% or less)

Seamai · 04-04-2020 11:35AM

owlbethere wrote: »

Thanks for this. I think maybe you should have wrote march there in some parts instead of April.

What you write does make sense.

Just on the last bit

"I would hope at this point after several weeks of stringent measures we would start seeing new infection rates being less than 2 weeks ago"

We've been on some form of a lockdown for the past few weeks. Even before Leo made his speech around about the 16th/17th of March introducing more restrictions, many people were taking this very seriously and were slowing down and reducing public spaces and crowds before Leo called for them.

We are now about 2-3 weeks with some form of a lockdown/restrictions and we are still seeing cases rising. This is something that worries me greatly.

Yes your correct about the dates, thanks for pointing that out. I will go back and correct.

BanditLuke · 04-04-2020 11:36AM

awec wrote: »

Maybe take a break from this topic? The endless negativity cannot be healthy at this stage.

You'll have to make that decision yourself.

Wombatman · 04-04-2020 11:36AM

During the influenza pandemic of 1918, which lasted from January 1918 to December 1920, and infected one-third of the world's population, or about 500 million people, leading to about 50 million deaths -- about half a million of which were in the United States.

Drumpot · 04-04-2020 11:37AM

owlbethere wrote: »

Thanks for this. I think maybe you should have wrote march there in some parts instead of April.

What you write does make sense.

Just on the last bit

"I would hope at this point after several weeks of stringent measures we would start seeing new infection rates being less than 2 weeks ago"

We've been on some form of a lockdown for the past few weeks. Even before Leo made his speech around about the 16th/17th of March introducing more restrictions, many people were taking this very seriously and were slowing down and reducing public spaces and crowds before Leo called for them.

We are now about 2-3 weeks with some form of a lockdown/restrictions and we are still seeing cases rising. This is something that worries me greatly.

I’d say anybody at Cheltenham or a sporting event in the last 3 weeks, who may of been infected would only be at the stage now where they may need hospital treatment.

Also our more full lockdown has been only just over a week. A lot of people didn’t take it seriously and were acting like ignorant muppets by gathering in big groups and changing nothing. Leo’s speech from USA was the beginning of the lockdown, but little changed for some time.

is_that_so · 04-04-2020 11:38AM

6 wrote: »

Some love pushing the negative agenda. I haven't seen anything but a monumental effort by everyone. If people are negative this early on they'll struggle. It could go on a while.

I actually think that some people are being affected by the length of time this has been going on and may not be fully aware they have become so negative. Mental health is now the biggest challenge IMO.

Boggles · 04-04-2020 11:38AM

Wombatman wrote: »

During the influenza pandemic of 1918, which lasted from January 1918 to December 1920, and infected one-third of the world's population, or about 500 million people, leading to about 50 million deaths -- about half a million of which were in the United States.

Masks? 1918?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Pencil Neck · 04-04-2020 11:39AM

We do we need to bite the bullet and implement a herd immunity strategy. It’s the only way out of this nightmare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

Wibbs · 04-04-2020 11:40AM

Boggles wrote: »

Masks? 1918?

Hmmmmmmmmm.

Ah sure didn't you know B, they're pointless...

04-04-2020 11:41AM

Pencil Neck wrote: »

We do we need to bite the bullet and implement a herd immunity strategy. It’s the only way out of this nightmare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

Yes, yes we do. Go forth and implement dear Medical officer. Save us all.

Wibbs · 04-04-2020 11:42AM

Greece which seems to be off the news radar appears to doing pretty well with only 67 deaths.

Drumpot · 04-04-2020 11:42AM

6 wrote: »

Some love pushing the negative agenda. I haven't seen anything but a monumental effort by everyone. If people are negative this early on they'll struggle. It could go on a while.

It’s part of the reason I stopped coming here and only check in every so often.

I got all the anxiety and planning out of the way in February. Since the parade has been cancelled I’ve been so encouraged by the government and authorities. I don’t know how this is going to play out but I think they’ve done a great job under difficult circumstances.

Rememeber aswell, there are also people with their own agendas against FG. I’m not a party person but think it’s sick to use this crisis as an opportunity to undermine them.

tobefrank321 · 04-04-2020 11:42AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Saw a piece earlier about how quickly this unity of purpose we all share will fracture afterwards. Looks like some people may not have bothered to wait.

If you think I'm going to join in to support a government who have proven from day one they don't have a clue what they are doing and are making it up as they go along or rather always after the sh*t hits the fan, you are sadly mistaken.

Funsterdelux · 04-04-2020 11:43AM

Pencil Neck wrote: »

We do we need to bite the bullet and implement a herd immunity strategy. It’s the only way out of this nightmare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

Hows the weather there from 2 weeks ago

Jinglejangle69 · 04-04-2020 11:43AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There isn't 148 in ICU, that's 148 since the start of this. It's been covered here alot

They really need to be clearer.

Heard Tony Hoolalan in the radio saying there is CURRENTLY 148 in ICU.

cameramonkey · 04-04-2020 11:43AM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/04/why-what-we-think-we-know-about-the-uks-coronavirus-death-toll-is-wrong

The UK seems to be misrepresenting the amount who die. For instance Although 159 deaths were reported for 29 March, the true number of people to have died was at least 463. I suppose they hope the public will just accept the figures as they are published and not look at the updated figures a few days later. If they are not testing enough and then not reporting the deaths BJ's inept reaction is hidden to some extent.

Maestro85 · 04-04-2020 11:44AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Dreadful absolutely dreadful. The lack of PPE is unacceptable and leaves the HSE and our government with serious questions to answer. May god help them over these next few weeks

Can confirm the above story myself. A friend that is a nurse is saying the same thing ("f"ing and blinding to be honest). I managed to get my hands on a couple of packets of proper masks (sealed) from my place of work (with permission) and donated them to the regional through her. I even threw in a few of my own as I have the industrial ones that will do the job if needed. HSE is going to have a real staffing problem building over the next 3 weeks.

Funsterdelux · 04-04-2020 11:45AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They really need to be clearer.

Heard Tony Hoolalan in the radio saying there is CURRENTLY 148 in ICU.

Oh, you heard him on the radio, I thought you were mates

04-04-2020 11:45AM

Drumpot wrote: »

It’s part of the reason I stopped coming here and only check in every so often.

I got all the anxiety and planning out of the way in February. Since the parade has been cancelled I’ve been so encouraged by the government and authorities. I don’t know how this is going to play out but I think they’ve done a great job under difficult circumstances.

Rememeber aswell, there are also people with their own agendas against FG. I’m not a party person but think it’s sick to use this crisis as an opportunity to undermine them.

Agree with all of that.

I'd say some is agenda driven, some trolling and some people are just naturally negative.

Rob A. Bank · 04-04-2020 11:46AM

Pencil Neck wrote: »

We do we need to bite the bullet and implement a herd immunity strategy. It’s the only way out of this nightmare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

You do realize that the idiots in London backed away from the 'Herd Immunity' tactic when they realized that it would cost approx 250,000 British lives.

But I am sure you think that is a price worth paying ? :rolleyes:

How that Brit chief scientist is still in his job defies belief.

mikeoc85 · 04-04-2020 11:47AM

Pencil Neck wrote: »

We do we need to bite the bullet and implement a herd immunity strategy. It’s the only way out of this nightmare.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-herd-immunity-lockdown-boris-johnson-graham-medley-a9447021.html

Country will go that route. These measures are only to get over the initial spike, to try and build up some form of immunity in healthcare workers without crippling it all at once. You will slowly see things go back to reasonable normality in a few of weeks.

We can’t stay in this lock down forever, both from a human perspective and from an economic one.

Anyone believing these measures will be in place until September, need their heads checked

is_that_so · 04-04-2020 11:48AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If you think I'm going to join in to support a government who have proven from day one they don't have a clue what they are doing and are making it up as they go along or rather always after the sh*t hits the fan, you are sadly mistaken.

We've all become "experts" on this but we all have our own way of looking at it. I largely support what is being done, you are free to choose what you want to do.

Boggles · 04-04-2020 11:48AM

is_that_so wrote: »

We've all become "experts" on this but we all have our own way of looking at it. I largely support what is being done, you are free to choose what you want to do.

To be fair if FG started executing pensioners in fields you spin it into a positive.

zinfandel · 04-04-2020 11:50AM

Seamai wrote: »

I'm curious as to what we are going to see when they start coming back, yes there may be substantial increases but people need to remember that these increases might not be reflective of the current infection rate. Just to take an example, I have a close family member who contacted his GP on March 18th as he was exhibiting mild symptoms and who's wife is high risk, the test was carried out on March 22nd and here we are on April 4th and still no results. By the time he had the test done he felt he'd was practically over what ever he had, he had been isolating and by the March 24th / 25th completely recovered. Now if his test results came back positive in the next day or two technically it's giving a misleading picture of where we are now and there may be a lot of these. I would be far more interested in seeing the results of tests taken in the last day or two as I would hope at this point after several weeks of stringent measures we would start seeing new infection rates being less than 2 weeks ago.

Exactly, a big % of these people if positive have already come out the other side and are better. does anyone know if there is any follow up by the HSE on people who tested positive? I believe they cant be marked as recovered until they have a negative test, but with a follow up they would at least have a good idea how many are better and have some figures.

WhiteMemento9 · 04-04-2020 11:51AM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

Country will go that route. These measures are only to get over the initial spike, to try and build up some form of immunity in healthcare workers without crippling it all at once. You will slowly see things go back to reasonable normality in a few of weeks.

We can’t stay in this lock down forever, both from a human perspective and from an economic one.

Anyone believing these measures will be in place until September, need their heads checked

You certainly won't see thing go back to reasonable normailty within a few weeks. That is as pie in the sky as people saying we will be in lockdown till September.

stephenjmcd · 04-04-2020 11:51AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They really need to be clearer.

Heard Tony Hoolalan in the radio saying there is CURRENTLY 148 in ICU.

They've been pretty clear, they were asked to clarify during the week and they did. The CMO even had the released figures from ICU to hand. This was as of midnight Wednesday which is the latest figures they release.
https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/2f9240-an-analysis-of-the-3655-cases-of-covid-19-in-ireland-as-of-wednesday/#hospital-statistics

Drumpot · 04-04-2020 11:52AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If you think I'm going to join in to support a government who have proven from day one they don't have a clue what they are doing and are making it up as they go along or rather always after the sh*t hits the fan, you are sadly mistaken.

Nobody outside Asia has any experience dealing with this sort of crisis, so I don’t consider “making it up as they go along” a meaningful criticism. Everybody is “making it up” according to the resources and political leanings.

mikeoc85 · 04-04-2020 11:54AM

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You certainly won't see thing go back to reasonable normailty within a few weeks. That is as pie in the sky as people saying we will be in lockdown till September.

Bars and restaurants will be open in September

Drumpot · 04-04-2020 11:55AM

mikeoc85 wrote: »

Bars and restaurants will be open in September

Bars should Be the last services to be open. Least important and one of the worst breeding ground for transmission.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP