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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #8492
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is all the used PPE getting incinerated or what happens to it?


  • #8493
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Did the nursing homes get riddled with it from people visiting who should have stayed away?

    No visitors to nursing homes since at least 3 weeks ago.


  • #8494
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    davedanon wrote: »
    No visitors to nursing homes since at least 3 weeks ago.

    Time frame means nothing - could be getting passed around silently, workers could have caught it outside...
    The only way to isolate the nursing homes would be to completely cut off all contact with the outside world
    They are just unfortunately a demographic that the virus would rip through if it gets in.


  • #8495
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    fin12 wrote: »
    Uk did exactly the same thing, speaking of Obama he is just a bad, at least with Trump what u see is what u get unlike Obama absolutely rat, he went down to Flintown where they are deliberately poisoning their water and he went down their and lied to the people faces that there was nothing wrong with their water and subsequently pretended to drink some water. I’m sorry but if u can lie and continue to tell people to drink filthy water , don’t think he would give a f*ck about people health.

    That is so illiterate I can't even read it without getting a headache.


  • #8496
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Did the nursing homes get riddled with it from people visiting who should have stayed away?

    Nursing homes went against advice and closed up to visitors earlier than anyone that the government advised, as early as the 6th March. I would think nursing homes are being infected through staff having virus and not realising it


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  • #8497
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Time frame means nothing - could be getting passed around silently, workers could have caught it outside...
    The only way to isolate the nursing homes would be to completely cut off all contact with the outside world
    They are just unfortunately a demographic that the virus would rip through if it gets in.

    The original poster asked if visitors brought it in and if they should have stayed away. I would also say it was staff not knowing they had it too.


  • #8498
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Do you actually live in the real world or just spend your time thinking of the most ridiculous statements to post?

    If they don’t have correct equipment they won’t be able to work.


  • #8499
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Speakerboxx wrote: »
    China would never beat a collective bond of countries together. US Europe and overseas would destroy them.

    The US alone would beat them but it would be a blood bath


  • #8500
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Our healthcare staff are putting their lives at risk every single day, not only themselves but to go home to their families and putting them at risk as well. With little PPE and re-using whatever they have. This situation is real and terrifying for them. And you're having a go at me?

    Fire fighters wouldn’t try to put out a fire without protective equipment, this is no different


  • #8501
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    If they don’t have correct equipment they won’t be able to work.

    That's completely different from what the poster is saying
    Healthcare workers have a primary goal - to help people less fortunate/sick (it's not a job for people involved, its more vocational). They won't just drop tools in an emergency


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  • #8502
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    wakka12 wrote: »
    If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then

    They probably will be introduced. It's so strange seeing people standing 2 meters apart while talking yet running people pass within two feet of each other sweating, puffing and panting.

    Supermarkets are doing a good job, but they're not perfect either; you're standing in your queue on your little blue or yellow rectangle that says 'PLEASE STAND HERE - Social distancing'. You're 2 meters from the bloke in front whose standing on his little rectangle except you're only a foot and a half from the bloke on your left who cant find the Doritos.

    I'd say we're very close to being told to cover our mouths/noses. I hope so.


  • #8503
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    The US alone would beat them but it would be a blood bath

    Do u think Trump will do anything to China after this? I feel he is the only leader who would actually have the balls to do something to China. Maybe Russia aswell.


  • #8504
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    syngindub wrote: »
    we can figure out the death rate !!

    As a percentage of population or confirmed cases. But not of actual cases because the number of confirmed cases is most likely multiples less than the actual number of people that have contracted it. So many are asymptomatic or may have recovered at home without any medical help or testing.


  • #8505
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,665 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    davedanon wrote: »
    1) He's shown, over and over, that he cares for nothing and no-one but himself and his interests.

    2) He didn't shut down the economy. He tried to keep it going and the governors overruled him.

    3) He does NOT do 'the same terrible things every American president does'. Obama wouldn't be acting like Trump now. Clinton wouldn't. Not even ****ing Dubya Bush, as much as I hated him, would be. Trump is uniquely terrible.

    Trump makes Bush's response to hurricane Katrina look brilliant. Actually he makes Bush in general seem like a great president in hindsight. Who would ever have thought it


  • #8506
    derfderf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    KaneToad wrote: »
    "Ivomec Pour-on. Kills all known parasites."

    My company makes that. You couldn't just start injecting it in to people.


  • #8507
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Hopefully he gets it, i can only image what he is like when he gets ordinary flu :D

    :D


  • #8508
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Italy had a death rate of 10.2 per 1000 for 2019 so they'd have been expecting circa 641,300 dead for 2020 so maybe 53,442 a month average expected

    Spain had 9.2 per 1000 with circa 430,560 expected this year 35,880 on average a month

    Be interesting if could get a total monthly number of deaths for March or maybe end April from each to compare


  • #8509
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Worldometers currently indicates that 25 people have recovered in Ireland. Where do they get this data because gov.ie only appears to report confirmed cases and deaths.

    Does anybody have a source?


  • #8510
    wazzer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭wazzer1


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Nursing homes went against advice and closed up to visitors earlier than anyone that the government advised, as early as the 6th March. I would think nursing homes are being infected through staff having virus and not realising it

    Alot of nurses in nursing homes in Ireland are from the Philippines etc. Alot live together etc. It spread like wildfire unfortunately


  • #8511
    Airyfairy12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    Im just curious as to how the PPE orders turned out to be such a massive cock up. Who ordered them? did they know what they were ordering? Ive just seen more pictures of them on social media and they are ridiculous. You'd see better hygiene and protective wear at a deli counter.


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  • #8512
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    Worldometers currently indicates that 25 people have recovered in Ireland. Where do they get this data because gov.ie only appears to report confirmed cases and deaths.

    Does anybody have a source?

    probably getting it from here https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


  • #8513
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Airyfairy12 wrote: »
    Im just curious as to how the PPE orders turned out to be such a massive cock up. Who ordered them? did they know what they were ordering? Ive just seen more pictures of them on social media and they are ridiculous. You'd see better hygiene and protective wear at a deli counter.


    Being male and female staffed you could easily have massive difference is sizing required, I'd assume all PPE isn't one size fits all? Gear that suits someone XL can hardly fit someone who is M?


  • #8514
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    Worldometers currently indicates that 25 people have recovered in Ireland. Where do they get this data because gov.ie only appears to report confirmed cases and deaths.

    Does anybody have a source?

    News reports


  • #8515
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Hi,

    I have high risk elderly (80 yrs plus) relatives living with me. My company has being deemed an essential service (Company maybe, my sector is not).

    I can't not go to work as I have bills etc. to pay. If I contract this virus and pass it on to my 87 year old mother its probably a death sentence.

    If I voluntarily leave my job I don't get any payment.

    what am I supposed to do ?


  • #8516
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    fin12 wrote: »
    Do u think Trump will do anything to China after this? I feel he is the only leader who would actually have the balls to do something to China. Maybe Russia aswell.


    Are you serious? What an awful thing to say!

    The world didn't feel the need to 'do something' to the USA in 1918 - the Spanish Flu Pandamic came from a bird farm in Kansas!


  • #8517
    con747
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,339 ✭✭✭con747


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Italy had a death rate of 10.2 per 1000 for 2019 so they'd have been expecting circa 641,300 dead for 2020 so maybe 53,442 a month average expected

    Spain had 9.2 per 1000 with circa 430,560 expected this year 35,880 on average a month

    Be interesting if could get a total monthly number of deaths for March or maybe end April from each to compare

    Why? the deaths now are because of a virus that was not present in Italy or Spain in 2019.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • #8518
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Airyfairy12 wrote: »
    Im just curious as to how the PPE orders turned out to be such a massive cock up. Who ordered them? did they know what they were ordering? Ive just seen more pictures of them on social media and they are ridiculous. You'd see better hygiene and protective wear at a deli counter.

    Blame the WHO - they were sourced from a WHO approved supplier
    Typically Medium in Chinese sizes is small at best in European sizes - as an approved supplier this shouldn't even come into it but makes you wonder...


  • #8519
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Heckler wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have high risk elderly (80 yrs plus) relatives living with me. My company has being deemed an essential service (Company maybe, my sector is not).

    I can't not go to work as I have bills etc. to pay. If I contract this virus and pass it on to my 87 year old mother its probably a death sentence.

    If I voluntarily leave my job I don't get any payment.

    what am I supposed to do ?

    Talk to your employer - maybe they can move you to a lower risk area or...


  • #8520
    Airyfairy12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Being male and female staffed you could easily have massive difference is sizing required, I'd assume all PPE isn't one size fits all? Gear that suits someone XL can hardly fit someone who is M?

    It's not just sizing difference, theyre disposable gowns with 3 quarter length sleeves, flimsy porous material. Nurses complaining about been told to wear gowns with back or front not covered, some of them are so tight they cant even get into them. Keep in mind, they ordered 15 years worth of a supply, they spent millions on this, do you not think they would have ordered different sizes?


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  • #8521
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    fin12 wrote: »
    Do u think Trump will do anything to China after this? I feel he is the only leader who would actually have the balls to do something to China. Maybe Russia aswell.


    If there is no money to be made for him and his cronies I doubt it. Trump is about one think only, himself the big baby.


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