CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

iwillyeah1234 · 04-04-2020 01:25AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246202031104286720?s=20

That was explicitly stated by Dr Michael Osterholm on the Joe Rogan podcast , back on March 10th.

bb12 · 04-04-2020 01:27AM

old_aussie wrote: »

Coronavirus: Anti-parasitic drug Ivermectin kills COVID-19 in lab within 48 hours

The next step is for scientists to determine the correct human dosage, to make sure the level used in vitro is safe for humans.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab-c-955457

interesting...i use this for horse worm doses and its also used for sheep. it's poisonous for dogs though and especially collies who have some gene which reacts badly to it and can kill them

davedanon · 04-04-2020 01:28AM

wakka12 wrote: »

If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then

First they came for the joggers, for they panted and breathed heavily, and I said nothing, for I was not a jogger.

Then they came for the asthmatics, for they panted and breathed heavily, and I said nothing, for I was not asthmatic.

Then they came for the rest of the respiratorily challenged, and I said nothing, for I was not of them.

Then they came for the breathers....

Richard Hillman · 04-04-2020 01:29AM

Our case numbers are miles off. The only Stát you can really rely on is the death figures from reputable countries.

Ireland are just behind Australia on the Case rankings

Australia 5454 Cases, 28 Deaths
Ireland 4273, 120 Deaths

How do we have 4 times as many deaths as Australia with a similar number?

I take Australia to a reputable country. If the Australian stats are bang on then we should have 4 times as many cases, over 16,000. But nobody is being tested here, or you have to wait 2 weeks to get a result.

Widdensushi · 04-04-2020 01:29AM

where is the 60k casualties in Italy figure coming from, isn't it 15k ?That's a very high death rate in new York for a population of 8million.

wakka12 · 04-04-2020 01:30AM

Really sad to hear of the two young nurses in England dying today. Both mothers of 3 children.

cameramonkey · 04-04-2020 01:30AM

KaneToad wrote: »

"Ivomec Pour-on. Kills all known parasites."

Sarcoptic mange mite.

JP Liz V1 · 04-04-2020 01:30AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The high rate of young people in ICU is worrying me. It doesn't translate to deaths thankfully, most of them come through it OK.

Is this new though? Anyone know if the original cases in Wuhan had similar young people in ICU?

How do you know there is a high rate of young in ICU in ROI?

syngindub · 04-04-2020 01:31AM

lillycakes2 wrote: »

Our number of cases are not accurate , no countries are, due to lack of testing.....so we do not know what that true figure is. Therefore,We cannot figure out the death rate

we can figure out the death rate !!

ThePopehimself · 04-04-2020 01:32AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1246202031104286720?s=20

The CDC called it today as well. They recommended people wear face coverings to stop spread of coronavirus, but then Trump immediately says "I don't think I'm going to be doing it."

He's worse than a defiant toddler.

mouldybiscuits · 04-04-2020 01:35AM

all about the mane wrote: »

People say he is stupid etc etc but he is far from that. And that model comment shows he really doesn’t care. Not a great president to have.

I don't think it shows he doesn't care. If he didn't care he wouldn't have shut down the economy to prevent more deaths. I think he's just not a career politician so he doesn't speak like one. It's a big part of why he became so popular to a lot of people. I think he does the same terrible things every other US president does, nothing different about him really. Just goes to show how little power the president in USA really has when there are so many powerful people and companies behind them pulling the strings. US politics puts way too much emphasis on personality rather than policy and their media is absolute propaganda so I don't see it changing anytime soon.

davedanon · 04-04-2020 01:36AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Our case numbers are miles off. The only Stát you can really rely on is the death figures from reputable countries.

Ireland are just behind Australia on the Case rankings

Australia 5454 Cases, 28 Deaths
Ireland 4273, 120 Deaths

How do we have 4 times as many deaths as Australia with a similar number?

I take Australia to a reputable country. If the Australian stats are bang on then we should have 4 times as many cases, over 16,000. But nobody is being tested here, or you have to wait 2 weeks to get a result.

You're citing Australia's response? Really?

fin12 · 04-04-2020 01:37AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Our case numbers are miles off. The only Stát you can really rely on is the death figures from reputable countries.

Ireland are just behind Australia on the Case rankings

Australia 5454 Cases, 28 Deaths
Ireland 4273, 120 Deaths

How do we have 4 times as many deaths as Australia with a similar number?

I take Australia to a reputable country. If the Australian stats are bang on then we should have 4 times as many cases, over 16,000. But nobody is being tested here, or you have to wait 2 weeks to get a result.

Is it because we have clusters in nursing homes?

josip · 04-04-2020 01:37AM

wakka12 wrote: »

If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then

We won't need further restrictions here, because we acted much earlier than the US.
Our ICU numbers look like they're stabilizing well below capacity.
I expect that we will start to ease restrictions gradually from the end of April.

JP Liz V1 · 04-04-2020 01:38AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Really sad to hear of the two young nurses in England dying today. Both mothers of 3 children.

RIP

ThePopehimself · 04-04-2020 01:41AM

I’m quoting an old post of mine on wearing masks in Ireland:

“I’m stunned that not a single public figure has worn a mask yet.

Not a single reporter, politician or HSE representative. Not the Chief Medical Officer, the Minister for Health or the Taoiseach. Not Claire Byrne or Ryan Tubridy or any other TV Prenter/reporter. Not a single Irish celebrity or public figure has worn a mask on TV.

PLEASE can just one single public figure wear a mask and lead by example.”

I really don't understand it. After all this time, only a handful cover their faces when in a supermarket. Irish people are resourceful enough. If we don't have a mask, we can use a scarf, any other fabric, anything is better than nothing.

I keep saying it, anyone of us may have the virus and not know it - yet - so by wearing a mask/scarf/covering we keep the virus to ourselves.

bekker · 04-04-2020 01:41AM

wakka12 wrote: »

If true this will mean further restrictions will be needed. Obviously joggers heavily breathing and panting while passing dozens of people represent a risk then

This has been known of for months, normal aspiration generating microdroplets, which are probably more transmissible at normal speech aspiration levels.

Asymptomatic transmission has been known to be at levels of >10%, and symptomatic with mild to somewhat noticeable but not really inconveniencing levels ~40%, again for months. That's what the 60x actual cases over reported cases was based.

It's just that people have been ignoring it or shying away from it, possibly because it was originally revealed in Chinese studies.

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 01:42AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Really sad to hear of the two young nurses in England dying today. Both mothers of 3 children.

It wouldn't surprise me if our healthcare staff walks out.

spookwoman · 04-04-2020 01:42AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

The CDC called it today as well. They recommended people wear face coverings to stop spread of coronavirus, but then Trump immediately says "I don't think I'm going to be doing it."

He's worse than a defiant toddler.

Hopefully he gets it, i can only image what he is like when he gets ordinary flu

YouSavedMyLife · 04-04-2020 01:44AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

The high rate of young people in ICU is worrying me. It doesn't translate to deaths thankfully, most of them come through it OK.

Is this new though? Anyone know if the original cases in Wuhan had similar young people in ICU?

Theres also no point in looking at China for any kind of statistics on the virus as everything released by official sources are wrong

davedanon · 04-04-2020 01:45AM

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

I don't think it shows he doesn't care. If he didn't care he wouldn't have shut down the economy to prevent more deaths. I think he's just not a career politician so he doesn't speak like one. It's a big part of why he became so popular to a lot of people. I think he does the same terrible things every other US president does, nothing different about him really. Just goes to show how little power the president in USA really has when there are so many powerful people and companies behind them pulling the strings. US politics puts way too much emphasis on personality rather than policy and their media is absolute propaganda so I don't see it changing anytime soon.

1) He's shown, over and over, that he cares for nothing and no-one but himself and his interests.

2) He didn't shut down the economy. He tried to keep it going and the governors overruled him.

3) He does NOT do 'the same terrible things every American president does'. Obama wouldn't be acting like Trump now. Clinton wouldn't. Not even ****ing Dubya Bush, as much as I hated him, would be. Trump is uniquely terrible.

mouldybiscuits · 04-04-2020 01:46AM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

What will our peak look like? It seems we are not to far away from it now. My worry is thing don't get much worse and things dont improve that much so it keeps is in limbo for a long time. So the restriction are doing a good job and the hospitals aren't overwhelmed but there still is 200-300 new cases being diagnosed and 15-30 deaths per day for a long period. Its hard to lift restrictions becuse the risks are high but its also hard to continue as we are because the risks to the economy are too great.

If there's that many new cases every day for a long time then hospitals will be overwhelmed without a doubt. I agree with you there are just so many unknowns, we don't know how long this will last or how long we can keep up lockdown for and still have the economy recover. I'm glad I'm not one of those that have to make these decisions.

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 01:47AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

I’m quoting an old post of mine on wearing masks in Ireland:

“I’m stunned that not a single public figure has worn a mask yet.

Not a single reporter, politician or HSE representative. Not the Chief Medical Officer, the Minister for Health or the Taoiseach. Not Claire Byrne or Ryan Tubridy or any other TV Prenter/reporter. Not a single Irish celebrity or public figure has worn a mask on TV.

PLEASE can just one single public figure wear a mask and lead by example.”

I really don't understand it. After all this time, only a handful cover their faces when in a supermarket. Irish people are resourceful enough. If we don't have a mask, we can use a scarf, any other fabric, anything is better than nothing.

I keep saying it, anyone of us may have the virus and not know it - yet - so by wearing a mask/scarf/covering we keep the virus to ourselves.

I think everyone should be wearing a mask. But we have a shortage for medical staff. They need them the most.

Then I was in a chemist asking about the cost of face masks and it was €6 for 3 of them. They are robbing us when we need them now.

fritzelly · 04-04-2020 01:48AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me if our healthcare staff walks out.

Do you actually live in the real world or just spend your time thinking of the most ridiculous statements to post?

bekker · 04-04-2020 01:49AM

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Theres also no point in looking at China for any kind of statistics on the virus as everything released by official sources are wrong

Don't you know that all the worldwide research for a vaccine is based on data released from Chinese official channels.

So you won't be wanting an innoculation then?

Atlantic Dawn · 04-04-2020 01:51AM

Did the nursing homes get riddled with it from people visiting who should have stayed away?

Away With The Fairies · 04-04-2020 01:53AM

fritzelly wrote: »

Do you actually live in the real world or just spend your time thinking of the most ridiculous statements to post?

Our healthcare staff are putting their lives at risk every single day, not only themselves but to go home to their families and putting them at risk as well. With little PPE and re-using whatever they have. This situation is real and terrifying for them. And you're having a go at me?

cj maxx · 04-04-2020 01:55AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I think everyone should be wearing a mask. But we have a shortage for medical staff. They need them the most.

Then I was in a chemist asking about the cost of face masks and it was €6 for 3 of them. They are robbing us when we need them now.

,4.75 each for used masks on eBay. 3 for £6 sounds good:)

fin12 · 04-04-2020 01:56AM

davedanon wrote: »

1) He's shown, over and over, that he cares for nothing and no-one but himself and his interests.

2) He didn't shut down the economy. He tried to keep it going and the governors overruled him.

3) He does NOT do 'the same terrible things every American president does'. Obama wouldn't be acting like Trump now. Clinton wouldn't. Not even ****ing Dubya Bush, as much as I hated him, would be. Trump is uniquely terrible.

Uk did exactly the same thing, speaking of Obama he is just a bad, at least with Trump what u see is what u get unlike Obama absolutely rat, he went down to Flintown where they are deliberately poisoning their water and he went down their and lied to the people faces that there was nothing wrong with their water and subsequently pretended to drink some water. I’m sorry but if u can lie and continue to tell people to drink filthy water , don’t think he would give a f*ck about people health.

wazzer1 · 04-04-2020 01:56AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Did the nursing homes get riddled with it from people visiting who should have stayed away?

I know the 1st cluster( and 1st death of many unfortunately) was brought In by a member of staff unwittingly of course.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP