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How did PCP work out in the end?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,007 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    L-M wrote: »
    Plus you won’t find any low APRs in the premium segment because, well, they simply don’t have to.

    Give it a couple of months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    mickdw wrote: »
    Bmw dealers were absolutely taking the piss in trade in more than any other brand.
    When you have this middleman looking to make 10k on the deal, it is never going to work out too well.

    How do you know what costs are involved in maintaining a BMW dealership and or what costs BMW garages for prep, warranty etc?

    I’m not having a go but there is absolutely no way BMW garages are trying to make 10k out of a car. I can 100 percent assure you of that.

    High volume of Imports and their cost might have an effect on trade in values. Not the dealer trying to make a mint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,804 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    L-M wrote: »
    How do you know what costs are involved in maintaining a BMW dealership and or what costs BMW garages for prep, warranty etc?

    I’m not having a go but there is absolutely no way BMW garages are trying to make 10k out of a car. I can 100 percent assure you of that.

    High volume of Imports and their cost might have an effect on trade in values. Not the dealer trying to make a mint.

    You are deliberately trying to cloud matters.
    10k on the deal as i referred to it would be the difference between buy in and sale cost.
    Sure they have costs and the 10k has to go towards costs and wages etc and any prep but the figure is still simply too high and is taking the piss. The direct price reference could clearly be seen where they are buying in stock from uk and im basing my figure on uk retail at a bmw dealer, adding in vrt and delivery so assuming they wouldnt pay retail, the figure would be even more. Im also talking about less than 1 year old so very limited reconditioning costs and surely no warranty costs.
    Typically, what i was looking at a few months back, late 18 530e, with the spec i was looking at, main dealers here were asking 43950 for a uk import with uk car landed here privately from a bmw dealer in uk for 33k.
    All this is before they start to take the piss on trade in which they routinely appear to retail at 10k more than offered against full retail price here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Sorry, I thought you meant what they were allowing Irish customers on trade ins at the end of a PCP agreement.... which is what we’re talking about.

    They aren’t the only one bringing stuff in from the UK and adding hefty margins, that’s a different story altogether to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    Blowheads wrote: »
    It's behind a pay-wall now, what's the gist of it?

    Full article seems to be replicated here and not behind a pay wall.

    Here


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Wuff Wuff


    has anyone not had a payment collected by VW this month?

    mine usually come out the 1st of the month and no collection this month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭easyvision


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    has anyone not had a payment collected by VW this month?

    mine usually come out the 1st of the month and no collection this month

    Mine due today.... so far nothing taken


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    L-M wrote: »
    Just look at the figure that you owe after 3 years and it should be between 30-40% of the price of it new........

    What makes and models are GFVM under 35%?
    I


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,804 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    has anyone not had a payment collected by VW this month?

    mine usually come out the 1st of the month and no collection this month

    I believe there was some alteration advertised re vw bank collections before the virus hit. It will be taken just alittle late for some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭xboxdad


    What do they check when you apply for PCP approval?
    Is it as tough as applying for mortgage or what's the process?


    Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I emailed VW bank last week asking for the 3 month payment break, they replied this morning giving it to me, it's a massive relief tbh, hopefully everything will be ok by July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    I emailed VW bank last week asking for the 3 month payment break, they replied this morning giving it to me, it's a massive relief tbh, hopefully everything will be ok by July.

    Do you know the details of a break on pcp?

    Is your term extended, or higher payments when resuming?
    Do they add addition interest during the break?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,704 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    xboxdad wrote: »
    What do they check when you apply for PCP approval?
    Is it as tough as applying for mortgage or what's the process?


    Thank you.

    It seems the process can depend
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108681950


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    ForestFire wrote: »
    Do you know the details of a break on pcp?

    Is your term extended, or higher payments when resuming?
    Do they add addition interest during the break?

    Yes they explained everything in the email. I'm on 0% finance so extra interest isn't a worry. The three months are added on at the end, payments will resume in July, my credit rating isn't affected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    CoBo55 wrote: »
    Yes they explained everything in the email. I'm on 0% finance so extra interest isn't a worry. The three months are added on at the end, payments will resume in July, my credit rating isn't affected.

    Thanks, might apply myself since I'm in 0% as well. I'm still working, but on reduced hours at the moment, so every little helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭markc1184


    Apologies if this should be asked elsewhere. Has anyone with VW bank payments due the 1st of the month not had their payments taken this month? Ours usually goes on the 1st but could be the 3rd depending on how it falls. It hasn't been taken yet for this month so just wondering if others are in the same boat?

    Edit: Apologies just seen the post further up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Augeo wrote: »
    What makes and models are GFVM under 35%?
    I

    I could have been a bit broad with as low as 30 but it was just a general ballpark figure of where they should lie.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've seen it mentioned on here a few times ..... 38/39 is lowest I've noticed from browsing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Augeo wrote: »
    I've seen it mentioned on here a few times ..... 38/39 is lowest I've noticed from browsing.

    if you take the base price ex delivery maybe.

    Lots of cars, (Even Vw especially) a huge percentage of cars will be + delivery + metallic paint + Technology packs. Suddenly when you add all that "normal" stuff in the percentage starts to drop.

    The Volkswagen E Golf Executive at the minute has an RRP excluding Metallic and tech pack of €32,350 and a 3 year 60kms GMFV of €10,727. That's around 33% before you add the €1,000 minimum of extras.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd say the e golf is a bit of an outlier though?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭Slippin Jimmy


    Wuff Wuff wrote: »
    has anyone not had a payment collected by VW this month?

    mine usually come out the 1st of the month and no collection this month

    Mine was taken at the end of last month as per usual. Looks like there is a slight delay with some posters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭Pacifico


    Augeo wrote: »
    I've seen it mentioned on here a few times ..... 38/39 is lowest I've noticed from browsing.

    Mine is approx 33% on a 1.4 TSI Highline Golf.

    Purchase price was around 32k inc Extras and GMFV is 10400


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭micks_address


    hi folks,

    i have a question on service plan included with PCP. I had one on my last car which i traded for another in February. Was paying 10 euro a month i think for it. I noticed the service plan amount coming out still each month after i got the new car. I thought this might have been set up by accident for my new car as it was included in the price as a 201 deal but it turns out when i queried it with VW bank it was the service plan for the old car. I cancelled the direct debit thinking it was in error but do i need to keep paying the service plan cost of the old cat until the 3 years would have been up in June? Or does the service plan end when the car is traded? I had three services carried out.

    Thanks,
    Mick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,628 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Why would you keep paying for a service plan on a car you no longer have? Who was the DD going to? Was it VW or the dealer? I'd notify them that you no longer have the car and to cancel it at their end also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭micks_address


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Why would you keep paying for a service plan on a car you no longer have? Who was the DD going to? Was it VW or the dealer? I'd notify them that you no longer have the car and to cancel it at their end also.

    well i got my three services so i can see an argument that the service plan is for the life of the pcp... which was 36 months.. the services are every 15k km but i do about 20k km per year.. so used them up in 2.5 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭micks_address


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Why would you keep paying for a service plan on a car you no longer have? Who was the DD going to? Was it VW or the dealer? I'd notify them that you no longer have the car and to cancel it at their end also.

    it was going to vw.. i cancelled from bank end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,628 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Best talk to VW then as they may try and take the next payment and then start sending late payment letters to you. May even have an impact on your credit score worst case.


  • Posts: 17,925 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    well i got my three services so i can see an argument that the service plan is for the life of the pcp............

    Yup .......... 3 services, cost spread over 36 months. I'd not cancel that personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭GustavoFring


    The service plan is a separate agreement to the PCP. You can call them to pay the balance owed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,259 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Augeo wrote: »
    Yup .......... 3 services, cost spread over 36 months. I'd not cancel that personally.

    yeah i mistakenly thought it was for the new car.. they are slow to respond to queries via email and their phone line is closed so its with them at the moment


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