CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Multipass wrote: »

Fuel, hardware, pet food for a start. I would usually spread my food purchases out to multiple small shops too.

Why are you buying any of that in a supermarket? All available in smaller stores and no need to be so long in the supermarket. I've never spent as much in small local shops as I have in the past two weeks.

Coyote wrote: »

Number updated to match today's report


No Change in number


Slow Change


Big Drop in numbers


again with all of this I'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late



interesting visualization of covid19
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Excellent work. The only thing I'd say is maybe the death figure for no change is a bit low. Like we are more likely to see 10-20 deaths per day rather than 5ish.

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

And right now that crash or major depression is probebly unavoidable and will overshadow the effects of the covid

Anyone who did not know there be a recession around the world would have to be clueless. The only thing of hope is that people will still have confidence to buy after this other then other revessuons

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Looking at the figures the last few days, anyone else think this was circulating well before the first official case here?

Couldn't be too long before sure we would've had cases present to hospital with breathing issues.

citysights wrote: »

Yes devastating to hear IMF chief talking like that, let the well people go back to work and cocoon the vulnerable and elderly, we can do that and we should.

That's not going to happen as has been pointed out to you before.

It's not that simple to just cocoon elderly and vulnerable. Many elderly and vulnerable people live with people who aren't in that group. Where do you expect those family members to live because if they go out to work everyday, they have the risk of bringing it home to the elderly and vulnerable. It's not a viable option to send everybody back to work at the moment and it won't be for some time to come regardless of the economic crisis that will follow.

How people don't understand this is beyond me. Just because you might not live with someone in an at risk group, thousands of others do.

DubInMeath wrote: »

Fuel, I'm still getting mine from the local garage as they are cheaper than Centra and our supermarket doesn't do gas bottles. Believe the fuel depot in the next town is still open, but more costly to travel there and any savings would be lost.

Same with the pet food, we've a small rescue and couldn't afford to buy it in the supermarket and the local pet shop who is still open as per the regs and gives us a good discount.

Local builders providers also does essential items as per the regs.

If your local shops for these items have closed on their own accord because of covid, assuming they suddenly haven't gone bankrupt its not really the supermarkets fault.

You’re missing my point - a lot of people, myself included, are minimizing contact by doing a one stop shop. Yes the likes of tesco and lidl are making this possible, but they will also profit hugely at the expense of our smaller local shops. I just think some of these profits should be spread - to local businesses that had to close.

Just in regards to PPE , Paul Reid was on rte news this evening. I'll post below what he said, but for people who were saying the whole PPE order wasn't fit for purpose that isn't true, I have family working in various dublin hospitals and was talking to some of them this evening. Of the PPE they have from the new batch they said out of a say 100 gowns you might find a handful that theres a defect, they've also got equipment that they aren't used to, heavier full suits basically. Overall of the ones I spoke to they're happy with the PPE that was delivered and are accepting that it was a first batch that took a week from order to delivery, there was always going to be some issues. Now that's just their batches in the area they work in, others may be different but it does seem to be a small amount.

Paul reid taken form rte:
"The head of the HSE has said that only a "smaller proportion" of PPE that has arrived here is unusable.

Paul Reid told RTÉ's Six One that if something isn't usable, then the HSE will not be distributing it to staff.

He said that some of what has arrived is not to the specification required, and that suppliers are working with them to ensure that what comes in the next batches of deliveries are correct.

Mr Reid said the HSE is grateful to have been able to secure these orders and that "many countries are envious" of the scale of PPE that we have been able to secure here."