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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭lillycakes2


    I am so mad with China right now, caused the virus. Now they getting millions from countries asking for help. WTF


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    irishlad. wrote: »
    People are so quick to point out the minor % of dodgy PPE or the testing problems we're having in this country.

    It has just been stated that we're currently able to test everyone that's presenting for testing.

    We're doing good lads, no where near a doomsday scenario here!


    We are doing well in some aspects but we seem not to be able to test people and get results to them in good time. It is something that hopefully is being addressed but at the moment testing is way behind where it should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Strazdas wrote: »
    One very encouraging sign is that only one extra person seems to have been admitted to ICU in a 24 hour period (even though these numbers are not quite up to date as Tony says).

    But only 15 of our 120 deaths were administered to ICU. So we could still see a lot of deaths even if our ICU numbers don't climb much


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Vast majority of cases in the east. Dublin is riddled with Covid, as our major population centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Vicxas wrote: »
    424 new cases. Surge definitely happening

    I believe the 'surge' is based on deaths in fact, not new cases (that's what I understood Dr Holohan to say).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    pjohnson wrote: »
    And that's relevant how? People in nursing homes dont deserve this.

    It's not a pleasant way to die. Would much rather have heart failure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,722 ✭✭✭micks_address


    Strazdas wrote: »
    110 (up one on yesterday's number of 109).

    Thank you. At least that means we have quite a bit of capacity still available. We are nowhere near having to triage cases based on capacity alone which is a good thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Continual escalation in Turkey, 2800 new cases and 70 deaths, the number of people in ICU has grown to over 1250


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    But only 15 of our 120 deaths were administered to ICU. So we could still see a lot of deaths even if our ICU numbers don't climb much

    They need to sort out the nursing homes


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Vicxas wrote: »
    424 new cases. Surge definitely happening

    Point to note.424 new cases is an 11% increase in cases.
    Yesterday's figure of 404 was in fact a 12% increase.
    I believe Leo Varadkar mentioned earlier in the week their aim is to keep that % figure as low as possible, they want it down near 5%.
    Be wary of how you read numbers.
    There is a sticky at the top of the forum.page showing the reported numbers each days, the numbers as a percentage increase and numbers of deaths among other things.Useful information.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    pjohnson wrote: »
    And that's relevant how? People in nursing homes dont deserve this.


    It is very relevant. It points to the national situation being not as bad as the numbers make it look.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    irishlad. wrote: »
    People are so quick to point out the minor % of dodgy PPE or the testing problems we're having in this country.

    It has just been stated that we're currently able to test everyone that's presenting for testing.

    We're doing good lads, no where near a doomsday scenario here!

    But why are so many still waiting for tests and results, some even have lost test swabs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    It's a pity we couldn't just have George as the only journalist there and just let him ask 20 questions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    bekker wrote: »
    Tony Holohan just did a Pontius Pilate on nursing homes during a response to question.
    Not really. He pointed out they should all be up to standard and following guidelines, some clearly are not. I'd see his original comments as assuming such standards were being followed. That's a HIQA purview anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Johnny1999


    The PPE from China was probably stuff they had in a warehouse, thinking they would sell it someday. Just hang onto it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    But only 15 of our 120 deaths were administered to ICU. So we could still see a lot of deaths even if our ICU numbers don't climb much

    For sure......deaths will be high for the next 7-10 days, irrespective of anything going on in ICU.

    (Pressure on ICU beds was / is a massive concern of course though).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I believe the 'surge' is based on deaths in fact, not new cases (that's what I understood Dr Holohan to say).

    2 days ago when we had 212 new cases you said new cases was the key figure. You're absolutely all over the place. At least posters like ITman1988 are consistent in their views and opinions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    When is the surge / peak expected, April 19th?

    The Dr said (a couple of days ago) expect the peak in 2 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    But why are so many still waiting for tests and results, some even have lost test swabs
    Very few now waiting for tests they said and the results issues will be resolved in the next 7-10 days.


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  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Why is George lee covering this story ? He's the most depressing person RTÉ have. He doesn't help the mood. I know fergal bowers needs a break but surely there was someone else who could be covering this ?

    George positively revels in misery, to the point of exaggeration. RTÉ needs a pragmatic journalist who is able to dissect the facts and figures competently. The viewing public deserve better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭1wizards sleeve


    I am so mad with China right now, caused the virus. Now they getting millions from countries asking for help. WTF

    I'm hoping it's a case of having to deal with them.. countries have to wise up to them now. The list is to long of all the horrible practices they have .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭irishlad.


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    But why are so many still waiting for tests and results, some even have lost test swabs

    Well I'm guessing (hoping) it was due to a huge surge of people seeking a test. Now that things have eased off a bit, you'd imagine turnaround time should be speeding up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Stheno wrote: »
    They need to sort out the nursing homes

    It's probably very difficult to "sort out" nursing homes. You have so many carers looking after the patients. One carer gets infected and infects one or two other carers which go on to infect the hospital. Very difficult to control this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    It's not a pleasant way to die. Would much rather have heart failure.

    They'd be given palliative care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭Sono Topolino


    I wish those assholes who went to Cheltenham and got infected despite our collective pleading with them to cop the feck on could be denied healthcare and quarantined in a prison cell. How utterly irresponsible can you be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    shesty wrote: »
    Point to note.424 new cases is an 11% increase in cases.
    Yesterday's figure of 404 was in fact a 12% increase.
    I believe Leo Varadkar mentioned earlier in the week their aim is to keep that % figure as low as possible, they want it down near 5%.
    Be wary of how you read numbers.
    There is a sticky at the top of the forum.page showing the reported numbers each days, the numbers as a percentage increase and numbers of deaths among other things.Useful information.

    Even at a generous 5% daily increase that is still 8000+ in the space of 2 weeks from now. You can guesstimate the deaths and ICU from that...not good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    2 days ago when we had 212 new cases you said new cases was the key figure. You're absolutely all over the place. At least posters like ITman1988 are consistent in their views and opinions.

    Yes, and that is still the case. New cases are still the one to watch in terms of where the pandemic is going : people passing away this week would have been infected with Covid perhaps three or four weeks ago.

    But the 'surge' and 'peak' which is being discussed are the death totals. That is why Dr Holohan was asked when he thought the surge would happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    What happened to the talk of the app and 15,000 tests per day, is that just all talk never happening


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




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