CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

ITman88 · 03-04-2020 03:07PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah. I really hope we adopt to a quality rather than quantity approach to our lives. Our homes are full of cheap Chinese crap that we don't really need. It's terrible for the environment and its a waste of money. That money would be much better spent purchasing quality product from European factories where people are well paid. We should defiantly make essential products in Europe.

Expect to pay €5000 for a phone or tv, affordable luxuries will disappear if we move to European only production.

1800_Ladladlad · 03-04-2020 03:07PM

The Dept of Social Protection won’t report illegal migrants who claim dole. So a migrant living in Ireland illegally who wants to claim the new and improved €350 a week social welfare payment as a result of Coronavirus, without an issue.

These are illegals. Not asylum seekers, or people who have migrated legitimately. We are rewarding crime and people who broke the law yet provide much less to the Irish, asylum seekers and migrants. People like my uncle who lost their jobs just before the government copped on, a job they worked in for 19 years they lost because of cv19. They were audited and is only getting €204?? Disgusting!!!!

https://twitter.com/welfare_ie/status/1245639097630085120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1245639097630085120&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgript.ie%2Fsocial-protection-migrants-dole%2F

devnull · 03-04-2020 03:08PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Peoples outgoings.

350 is decent if you have no Mortgage or bills or loans etc.

Do you think that anyone to have lost their job on 188 quid a week before this didn't have these as well?

Also Banks are helping people with loans and mortgages as well, something that those on half of €350 a week never got help with.

Sir Oxman · 03-04-2020 03:08PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Peoples outgoings.

350 is decent if you have no Mortgage or bills or loans etc.

there are things in place for mortgages and loans and indeed some bills.

(The mortgage one is typical bank fleecing but it is there)

Sofiztikated · 03-04-2020 03:09PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Unfortunately those deaths don't attract the same level of breast-beating from the social-media heroes , so presumably won't count as much.

What deaths, those by suicide?

You forgetting about the "It's OK to not be OK" that's been everywhere, the trying to destignatise mental health that everyone has been doing?

Give it a ****ing rest, you're getting tiresome.

I'd say you give less than 2 fiddlers ****s about it.

Ace2007 · 03-04-2020 03:09PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

85 was the average age of death in Italy the last time I checked and I believe ours is similar too

I look forward to showing me back up in ireland - the median gets reported a lot - and that is very different meaning than a average - which I’m sure your well aware of

smelly sock · 03-04-2020 03:11PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

there are things in place for mortgages and loans and indeed some bills.

(The mortgage one is typical bank fleecing but it is there)

The banks won't agree to any longer than the 3 months that's for sure. And then they are just piling it onto the current term.

yourdeadwright · 03-04-2020 03:12PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

12 weeks initially and then they will re-evaluate. There is also the national response where you’ll get paid to help your country.

Sure we pay people 200€ a week on the dole and have done for years - even at height of last recession

I don't get this 350 a week thing ,

Now I'm lucky I have never been on the dole in my life and again I'm lucky i'm still working but iv noticed last two months I have spent way less than I normally would,

Basically all Iv spent money on is mortgage/bills and food, nothing none essential , Why do people on the dole all of a sudden need more money ?

I'm not giving out about it I'm asking what is the reason ?
Surely iv missed something obvious here ?

Is this just for people new to the dole because of this ?

ITman88 · 03-04-2020 03:12PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I look forward to showing me back up in ireland - the median gets reported a lot - and that is very different meaning than a average - which I’m sure your well aware of

Everything gets reported very unusually.

Like the death rate from this thing

bilston · 03-04-2020 03:13PM

So the death toll in the UK has just surpassed China's...how can anyone take China's figures seriously at this stage.

Almost 40,000 dead in Europe, 13 times the amount to die in China...hmmmm

Sir Oxman · 03-04-2020 03:13PM

smelly sock wrote: »

The banks won't agree to any longer than the 3 months that's for sure. And then they are just piling it onto the current term.

Well, let's wait and see.
Donohoe has to up his game with the banks if the 'goodwill' to FG is to sustain for a start.
The fact is, the schemes are in place.

RugbyLad11 · 03-04-2020 03:13PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I look forward to showing me back up in ireland - the median gets reported a lot - and that is very different meaning than a average - which I’m sure your well aware of

It doesn't matter if Ireland reports median age.

Just look at the average age of deaths in other counties and it in the 80's. So unless Ireland is doing something terribly wrong and our young people are dying I would say Ireland's average death rate is in line with other countries...aka elderly people

Wombatman · 03-04-2020 03:14PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

The Dept of Social Protection won’t report illegal migrants who claim dole. So a migrant living in Ireland illegally who wants to claim the new and improved €350 a week social welfare payment as a result of Coronavirus, without an issue.

These are illegals. Not asylum seekers, or people who have migrated legitimately. We are rewarding crime and people who broke the law yet provide much less to the Irish, asylum seekers and migrants. People like my uncle who lost their jobs just before the government copped on, a job they worked in for 19 years they lost because of cv19. They were audited and is only getting €204?? Disgusting!!!!

https://twitter.com/welfare_ie/status/1245639097630085120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1245639097630085120&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgript.ie%2Fsocial-protection-migrants-dole%2F

Don't you need a PPS number to claim?

Doctors room ghost · 03-04-2020 03:14PM

Rip bill withers
Ain’t no more sunshine

BanditLuke · 03-04-2020 03:15PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Expect to pay €5000 for a phone or tv, affordable luxuries will disappear if we move to European only production.

Good. I won't miss a phone or TV. Some things are more important than luxuries.

gabeeg · 03-04-2020 03:15PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Rip bill withers
Ain’t no more sunshine

ah balls

josip · 03-04-2020 03:16PM

paw patrol wrote: »

Russia seems to be handy out the supplies and man power like mad.
Italy , Iran and even USA received stuff. probably for future friendship and good PR ...

Whatever your view on Russia it's clear china isn't the only show in town

80% of the Russian gear was defective according to La Stampa.
That was just an internal PR exercise for Putin.

https://www.lastampa.it/topnews/primo-piano/2020/03/25/news/coronavirus-la-telefonata-conte-putin-agita-il-governo-piu-che-aiuti-arrivano-militari-russi-in-italia-1.38633327

Gael23 · 03-04-2020 03:17PM

All of the PPE will shortly be in a big hole in the ground regardless of it being suitable

Ace2007 · 03-04-2020 03:19PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

It doesn't matter if Ireland reports median age.

Just look at the average age of deaths in other counties and it in the 80's. So unless Ireland is doing something terribly wrong and our young people are dying I would say Ireland's average death rate is in line with other countries...aka elderly people

Just provide back up to your claims - it should be easy - a reputable source is all I’m asking

Boggles · 03-04-2020 03:19PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

These are illegals. Not asylum seekers, or people who have migrated legitimately. We are rewarding crime and people who broke the law yet provide much less to the Irish, asylum seekers and migrants. People like my uncle who lost their jobs just before the government copped on, a job they worked in for 19 years they lost because of cv19. They were audited and is only getting €204?? Disgusting!!!!

No he wasn't, absolute fantasy.

Please take the racist BS elsewhere.

bilston · 03-04-2020 03:20PM

The weather forecast for the start of next week is worrying.

Normally it would be good but I just hope people stay home and don't be stupid at the sight of a bit of sun and warmth

1800_Ladladlad · 03-04-2020 03:20PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Don't you need a PPS number to claim?

That what I thought as well but some actually have PPS numbers and how that's fcuking possible is beyond me :eek:

Ace2007 · 03-04-2020 03:21PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I don't get this 350 a week thing ,

Now I'm lucky I have never been on the dole in my life and again I'm lucky i'm still working but iv noticed last two months I have spent way less than I normally would,

Basically all Iv spent money on is mortgage/bills and food, nothing none essential , Why do people on the dole all of a sudden need more money ?

I'm not giving out about it I'm asking what is the reason ?
Surely iv missed something obvious here ?

Is this just for people new to the dole because of this ?

Why do people suddenly out of job need more than the dole, if the dole amount has been considered adequate?

Mwengwe · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Probably the ones guaranteed their income in spite of this.

Talk to lads gone from 700 or 800 a week to 350 and they will more than likely have a different opinion.

Can't believe the **** I'm reading

1800_Ladladlad · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

Boggles wrote: »

No he wasn't, absolute fantasy.

Please take the racist BS elsewhere.

Maybe it isn't the best word to use but it was his first time ever having to apply for social welfare and they thoroughly checked him out. Docs etc.

Curious_Case · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Well, let's wait and see.
Donohoe has to up his game with the banks if the 'goodwill' to FG is to sustain for a start.
The fact is, the schemes are in place.

I agree, but if the banks are allowed to dip in to everyone's pockets for fees & interest again in the next 2 quarters, then I'm voting for SF next time.

Even Eir have postponed their planned introduction of email account charges.

Also, my suppliers are not harrassing me for payments that are now late.

The banks need to be rendered obsolete for all but the large companies anyway.

MD1990 · 03-04-2020 03:22PM

bilston wrote: »

So the death toll in the UK has just surpassed China's...how can anyone take China's figures seriously at this stage.

Almost 40,000 dead in Europe, 13 times the amount to die in China...hmmmm

Yeah.

China hiding their deat figures done the rest of the world no favours.

Should still have acted way quicker but would have if China released the real figures which is probably closer to 100,000 deaths rather than 3,000

ITman88 · 03-04-2020 03:23PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Good. I won't miss a phone or TV. Some things are more important than luxuries.

More populist tripe.

How are you typing on this forum?

Phone? PC? You using data or broadband?

03-04-2020 03:23PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Expect to pay €5000 for a phone or tv, affordable luxuries will disappear if we move to European only production.

I loved the 1980s and am glad that we are heading back there! I have my old ZX Spectrum somewhere in the attic.....

1800_Ladladlad · 03-04-2020 03:25PM

Boggles wrote: »

No he wasn't, absolute fantasy.

Please take the racist BS elsewhere.

A classic "that's racist" from you. No race was mentioned, simply ILLEGALS!

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP