CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 01:43PM

Boggles wrote: »

Tim is talking out of his bollíx. You don't become a trillion dollar company without some human rights being violated.

That said the Chinese do produce world class products and a leader in expertise in certain sectors.

So no, it's no all "cheap tat".

I suppose some human rights are violated but thats not relevant to my point . He says they have the best factory management and process engineers. Not just China but Asia. Implying thats not available in the west.

Labour isn't a significant cost of the manufacture of the iPhone.

Anyway if they have all the factories and we don't the process of just kicking China out of the world economy would be long and laborious, and probably doomed to failure.

gabeeg · 03-04-2020 01:49PM

It's kind of funny that we had that military escort from the airport for midget sized PPE

10000maniacs · 03-04-2020 01:50PM

gmisk wrote: »

The cause of coronavirus according to a dup councillor....gay people and abortion...I should have guessed!
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dup-politician-did-not-intend-to-cause-hurt-when-linking-coronavirus-to-abortion-law-1.4219288

“I was laughed at and mocked by some but as I said at the time, they laughed at Noah until the rain started. You reap what you sow and our nation is now reaping the judgment of God because of an immoral and corrupt government...It is time to repent and turn again to the God of our fathers.”

You can keep your United Ireland if idiots of this calibre become fellow countrymen.

ninebeanrows · 03-04-2020 01:50PM

Aerlingus from Beijing just landed

paw patrol · 03-04-2020 01:51PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

You understood that?

I've spent a long time there I speak fluent kerry

Dcully · 03-04-2020 01:51PM

gabeeg wrote: »

It's kind of funny that we had that military escort from the airport for midget sized PPE

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Yeah hilarious :cool: but i take your point.

03-04-2020 01:51PM

Rightly or wrongly, China will face a reckoning when this is over. The way the world looks at China, socially, economically and from a trade perspective, will never be the same

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/icj-moves-unhcr-against-china-for-covid-19-reparations/articleshow/74965784.cms?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=iOSapp&utm_source=WhatsApp.com

mick987 · 03-04-2020 01:57PM

con747 wrote: »

France reported 1355 yesterday after they were made include the cases that died from the virus in nursing homes. Up until then they only reported hospital deaths. I wonder if all countries include ALL virus related deaths not just the hospital cases.

But that does not fit his anti Tory rant

Rob A. Bank · 03-04-2020 01:58PM

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 3 April 2020 @ 08:00

novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-04-03.png?itok=gmfnxc8K

novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-04-03.png?itok=gmfnxc8K

Definite flattening of the curve for daily cases in Europe over the last 9 days and the trend seems to be downwards now.

Light at the end of the tunnel ?

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Ace2007 · 03-04-2020 01:59PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 3 April 2020 @ 08:00

Definite flattening of the curve for daily cases in Europe over the last 9 days and the trend seems to be downwards now.

Light at the end of the tunnel ?

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Can we really say that 9 days is sufficient sample size to determine if we “definitely flattening the cueve”?

biko · 03-04-2020 01:59PM

Maybe it's just me but this looks a bit strange

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/summary/

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 01:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Rightly or wrongly, China will face a reckoning when this is over. The way the world looks at China, socially, economically and from a trade perspective, will never be the same

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/icj-moves-unhcr-against-china-for-covid-19-reparations/articleshow/74965784.cms?utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=iOSapp&utm_source=WhatsApp.com

Will the Chinese get reparations from the UK for the opium wars, first though?

Those lads dont seem to have much of a presence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Council_of_Jurists. Two line entry.

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 02:00PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Can we really say that 9 days is sufficient sample size to determine if we “definitely flattening the cueve”?

Yes. An exponential increase cant be hidden in 9 days.

Snow Garden · 03-04-2020 02:01PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Definite flattening of the curve for daily cases in Europe over the last 9 days and the trend seems to be downwards now.

Light at the end of the tunnel ?

Hard to know. Our daily data is still a 9-10 days old given the delays in testing and results. Whatever the HSE report today is over a week old.

Whats the lag in the rest Europe?

gabeeg · 03-04-2020 02:01PM

Or are many countries running out of things like reagent?

skellig_rocks · 03-04-2020 02:02PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

There's nothing to indicate the next consignment won't have similar issues. Which is why you ask someone to sign off on these consignments before they leave China. Even the WHO could do it.

Because Irish Government do not want to question the quality of Chinese products in front of Chinese officials in Beijing warehouse? I guess boxes only opened on arrival in Ireland.

Longing · 03-04-2020 02:03PM

FVP3 wrote: »

Yes. An exponential increase cant be hidden in 9 days.

German figures are missing from that graph.

Rob A. Bank · 03-04-2020 02:03PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Can we really say that 9 days is sufficient sample size to determine if we “definitely flattening the cueve”?

Compare it to the previous 9 days, when it was definitely on the way up.

I feel hopeful about the shape of the infection curve, but of course I may be wrong.

beggars_bush · 03-04-2020 02:03PM

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Aerlingus from Beijing just landed

The USA have agents in China at the moment buying up PPE destined for other countries at x2 and x3 the price

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 02:04PM

Longing wrote: »

German figures are missing from that graph.

The german figures are also not exponential.

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 02:05PM

beggars_bush wrote: »

The USA have agents in China at the moment buying up PPE destined for other countries at x2 and x3 the price

Strange that, given how bad quality the Chinese PPE is? Maybe the US are taking the good stuff.

devnull · 03-04-2020 02:05PM

684 deaths in the UK in last 24 hours - new record.

Longing · 03-04-2020 02:06PM

FVP3 wrote: »

The german figures are also not exponential.

Still missing. Why is a graph posted with false data. I know you didn't post it. Yes thankfully the trend is downwards.

Rob A. Bank · 03-04-2020 02:07PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

Hard to know. Our daily data is still a 9-10 days old given the delays in testing and results. Whatever the HSE report today is over a week old.

Whats the lag in the rest Europe?

I have no idea about the lag for the rest of Europe.

But I imagine it is the same as it was 18 days ago

But it's a snapshot taken at the same time every day... and it's the only pan European data we have to go on.

I am hopeful... that's all

FVP3 · 03-04-2020 02:08PM

Longing wrote: »

Still missing. Why is a graph posted with false data. I know you didn't post it. Yes thankfully the trend is downwards.

Well yes, that is weird. Not denying that it is odd that germany wasnt included in a graph for Europe when many tiny countries were. Still I was answering a question on that graph.

An Ciarraioch · 03-04-2020 02:08PM

684, I believe (3,605-2,921).

Twelve new deaths in NI, bringing their total to 48.

Longing · 03-04-2020 02:09PM

Actually Germany recorded 6,813 yesterday a increase of 700+ from what that chart is showing from previous day.

So 6,813 needs to be added. Still think its decreasing.

Updated Germany cases increase further today: 8978. Deaths today: 253.

FishOnABike · 03-04-2020 02:09PM

Wombatman wrote: »

It's still all relative to population size.

Only after the virus has had its chance to work its way through that population, which will take longer for a larger population.

In a larger population a virus can continue to spread for longer and at an ever increasing rate if not brought under control and therefore has a greater potential for its propagation rate and the numbers presenting for medical care to spiral out of control.

When infection + exposure rates are significantly lower than the rates needed for herd immunity begin to gave any significant effect comparing absolute numbers is more relevant to how well the outbreak is being managed in different areas / countries.

At this time relative numbers are a good inducation how the effect might be felt within an area / country.

Martina1991 · 03-04-2020 02:14PM

Snow Garden wrote:

Hard to know. Our daily data is still a 9-10 days old given the delays in testing and results. Whatever the HSE report today is over a week old.

Not all swabs processed daily were taken the same day.

Samples are processed according to priority; hospitalised patients, healthcare workers, people in the community.

The numbers realised daily is a mixture of all categories.

Rob A. Bank · 03-04-2020 02:20PM

Longing wrote: »

Actually Germany recorded 6,813 yesterday a increase of 700+ from what that chart is showing from previous day.

So 6,813 needs to be added. Still think its decreasing.

The same thing happened with Italian data on the 15th of last month... it was added the next day.

I imagine there was some glitch in receiving the German figures today.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP