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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #7142
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,129 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Forgive me, but I have been using a snood scarf lately over mouth and nose since no masks available. Just a thing to keep my breath away from anyone else really.

    It is probably useless, but it makes me feel a bit more ok. Straight into the bowl with watered down bleach + Fairy liquid on return. Rinse and repeat.


  • #7143
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    In czech republic people are sewing masks, we should do this

    It's good enough for Asian countries, doctors and nurses but not for our population apparently.

    I agree. They can't be hard or expensive to produce.


  • #7144
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    At current rates, our health system will be overwhelmed in 2-3 weeks. The chief cause being lack of sufficiently trained health workers. It's alarming the numbers that are being infected. Got to ensure at minimum that everyone working in a cluster currently and likely near future clusters are all wearing proper PPE all the time. And consider separating those workers with covid patients completely, with industrial level PPE also

    Incoming bot!


  • #7145
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    It's disgusting how much western governments (our government included) keep pushing the agenda that masks are not needed but now they are back tracking.

    Imagine how many lives could've been saved if they didn't stigmatize people wearing masks

    They don’t have supplies and are trying to keep them for medical staff


  • #7146
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    macmahon wrote: »
    The numbers are so small and have been over the last few weeks here in Ireland! Its a plandemic!

    Is "Plandemic" something clever you came up with, or did you genuinely misspell it?


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  • #7147
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Musefan wrote: »
    He’s undermining the doctor, Dr Birx. She stated that by the stats, not every American is obeying social distancing rules. He freaked out, cutting in making sure people knew that some states were doing great, nothing to worry about etc. He was irked that she compared US to Italy. He’s telling people a scarf is better than an N95 mask “because it’s thicker”. Trying to somehow plant the seed that Spanish flu didn’t originate in the US because they had less deaths.

    Oh dear!


  • #7148
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    They don’t have supplies and are trying to keep them for medical staff

    Instead of attacking those who mention it - why don't they just say that?

    We don't have supplies, discussion over.


  • #7149
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    They don’t have supplies and are trying to keep them for medical staff

    But why lie to people? tell them to truth and tell them to cover there mouth and nose with a scarf or anything


  • #7150
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    Viruses aren't aware of the concept of an economy.

    The harder you make it for them to spread generally the less dangerous they become. They want hosts, killing people doesn't help that.


    This is already a more contagious, less lethal version of SARS anyway.


  • #7151
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump explaining how he want to run the US like he ran his businesses - in to the ground.


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  • #7152
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    froog wrote: »
    5,740 deaths today alone. frightening.

    Yep! You got it froog!x


  • #7153
    Bit cynical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    They have to. Only so long you can stay out on your own while neighbouring countries deal with it a completely different way.

    Although I suspect the UK probably would have gone down the same route had the french not threatened to close the border with UK if they didnt do something.
    They most likely will do that but it is unusual that they have had a less steep trajectory than most other countries to date.


  • #7154
    wonski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Forgive me, but I have been using a snood scarf lately over mouth and nose since no masks available. Just a thing to keep my breath away from anyone else really.

    It is probably useless, but it makes me feel a bit more ok. Straight into the bowl with watered down bleach + Fairy liquid on return. Rinse and repeat.

    While I appreciate your effort not sure mask being in a bleach bath and put back on your face is a good idea. Watered down or not.

    Take care of your skin.


  • #7155
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    marilynrr wrote: »
    I think they will be able to estimate that properly when this is all over by comparing the average number of deaths to previous years.

    They’d want to be doing this now though, hard data, rather than this modeling which seems to based on worst case scenarios.


  • #7156
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,802 ✭✭✭threeball


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Trump explaining how he want to run the US like he ran his businesses - in to the ground.

    Its ok he'll just get bailed out by russian mafia or a firesale to the chinese. Thats how he kept going in the past.


  • #7157
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    In czech republic people are sewing masks, we should do this

    There’s a group of women doing this up in Donegal , for Gardaí and health workers, shop Keepers etc, they’re doing it free of charge.


  • #7158
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    threeball wrote: »
    Its ok he'll just get bailed out by russian mafia or a firesale to the chinese. Thats how he kept going in the past.

    I don't know, he's such a fcuking dumb ass.

    What can be said at this point?


  • #7159
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    There’s a group of women doing this up in Donegal , for Gardaí and health workers, shop Keepers etc, they’re doing it free of charge.

    Do these mask need a rating to find out how effective they are. Or is any mask better than no mask?


  • #7160
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Instead of attacking those who mention it - why don't they just say that?

    We don't have supplies, discussion over.

    They may not want to say that as frontline workers are likely relying on pharmacies etc to supply them at this stage if the shortages are as bad as being reported. The public also have access to these so if they said “masks work” there would be huge rush to get them. I think the HSE put out a call for anyone who had PPE to donate it? There is obviously serious shortfall in supplies.

    If the HSE told the population that masks do protect there would be even more competition to get them among workers who do need them more as they are actually working with people who are likely to be exposed.

    A lot of the general public have a choice that removes the need for masks. We can social distance. This removes the need for masks for most of the time....compare this need with a nurse, a career, health assistant etc, someone immune comprised and their carers.

    I think that anyone working in essential services should be supplied these masks too along with carers of people that are vulnerable.

    It’s simply easier for people to social distance. I would also think similar to gloves, people not trained in basic infection or disease control will use them incorrectly. I see people wearing gloves to shops, and using same gloves getting into their cars etc. It basically renders them ineffective.


  • #7161
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    speckle wrote: »
    Bit nervous, going for an emergency dental apointment in the midst of a pandemic. Never thought I would see the day!

    You will be grand! Health service has never been so sterile and clean here in Ireland! Too many ups are incoming in this plandemic here Ireland!...stay positive!


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  • #7162
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    But why lie to people? tell them to truth and tell them to cover there mouth and nose with a scarf or anything

    Maybe people will become complacent if they do this. It’s easier to just practise social distancing in my opinion. It massively reduces transmission more than any other method.


  • #7163
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Eh, OK McM. I'll try to see your point?
    Please put your words on here.

    That sounds like a challenge to me!


  • #7164
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,300 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Looks like some of the Chinese PPE gear we got on Sunday is not up to scratch, hope they kept the receipt...
    He was speaking in a video on Twitter following concerns about the content of the first batch of Personal Protective Equipment for healthcare staff that has been arriving on Aer Lingus flights from China since last Sunday.

    The HSE said that although the equipment being delivered is up to World Health Organization standards, and will work to protect healthcare staff, it is not the type of equipment that Irish healthcare staff have been used to.

    There are concerns that the equipment may be more robust and heavy duty than nurses and doctors expected.

    There have also been complaints from some nursing quarters that the protective gowns in the shipment are too small and the face masks of poor quality.


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0403/1128209-nphet-to-meet-to-plan-next-moves-in-covid-19-fight/


  • #7165
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    Curious_Case wrote: »
    Global cases have exceeded 1 million (worldometer)

    And France is listed as having 1,355 additional deaths

    US heading for 250,000

    Huge numbers

    Coronavirus or covid19 specifically?


  • #7166
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,184 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Looks like some of the Chinese PPE gear we got on Sunday is not up to scratch, hope they kept the receipt...




    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0403/1128209-nphet-to-meet-to-plan-next-moves-in-covid-19-fight/

    I warned of this.

    China's intention to capitalise on a disaster of their own making by pretending to be the knights in shining armor to other countries is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

    Equipment is useless, send it back like everyone else.


  • #7167
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    tuxy wrote: »
    Do these mask need a rating to find out how effective they are. Or is any mask better than no mask?

    I’m not sure to be honest, I’ve linked the story below.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/5274398/coronavirus-ireland-donegal-women-make-masks-frontline/amp/


  • #7168
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Stuff of nightmares or at least this one

    Video released on December 11 2019 by the Shanghai Media Group when the Covid-19 was already infecting its first victims ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovnUyTRMERI


    Go to 3:05 for section on bats ...

    And no I'm not a conspiracy advocate.


  • #7169
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,402 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    tuxy wrote: »
    Do these mask need a rating to find out how effective they are. Or is any mask better than no mask?

    I read this week that even a t-shirt makes a good mask, so it's definitely not the case that you must have a medically approved mask to go about your day to day business.....anything that covers your nose and mouth should do a decent job.


  • #7170
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    He might make a call from from his shed.

    Is Tubby bear covid19 or just coronavirus?


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  • #7171
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    tuxy wrote: »
    Do these mask need a rating to find out how effective they are. Or is any mask better than no mask?

    Any mask is better than no mask for sure.


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