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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #6872
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    What happened in France today..

    2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France [source]


  • #6873
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Here's the cluster breakdown.
    Loads in hospitals and nursing homes especially in the east.
    Great report from the health protection surveillance centre.

    can be found here daily.
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/

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  • #6874
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    In hindsight this probably was not the best idea at the time

    https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1224661041495212032

    It might has seem a nice sentiment but I wonder how many cases were spread unwittingly in the process.


  • #6875
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,427 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    In hindsight this probably was not the best idea at the time

    https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1224661041495212032

    In fairness, very little was known about the virus and transmission at that stage. There was talk from scientists you would need to spend around 15 minutes with a person before you could catch Covid from them.


  • #6876
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    BCG? Is that a vaccine we got when small?


    Three needles in your left arm. Still have the marks.
    Like a little triangle.


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  • #6877
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    Why are RTE reporting median ages of deaths and cases ? why not averages ?

    Mean is the sum of value for each item divided by number of items. It is appropriate for normal distributions where there is continuous values. (For example - weights of product in a package).

    Median is the value where 50% of the values is above and 50% is below the median. It is appropriate for situation of non-continuous values where outliers would distort the result by having the outlier has too much influence. For example if a football team f 15 players were all 20 - 22 years old except the goalkeeper who was 50 years old. The median would be 21 whatever the goalkeeper's age was but the average would be 23 if he was 50.

    The other value is the mode. That is the most common - most popular if you like.

    Median is the best to use in this case.


  • #6878
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    EDIT: this already mentioned by Naggdefy

    France has just officially broken smashed the new death figures for a day after including nursing home deaths.

    +1355


  • #6879
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Yeah, right!
    Who knows but with their type of government i.e very little freedom and also their restrictions on going abroad they are better equipped than most.


  • #6880
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Millennials can't peel spuds.

    Technically Im a millennial and I can peel a spud, I made a sweet potato curry lastnight.
    I think the definition is flexible though


  • #6881
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    That French total shatters every death total worldwide. And from a relatively low infection rate compared to US and peak Italy.


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  • #6882
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Technically Im a millennial and I can peel a spud, I made a sweet potato curry lastnight.
    I think the definition is flexible though

    Technically i'm a frog and I can't peel a spud either.

    I think the definition is flexible though.


  • #6883
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    What happened in France today..

    2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France [source]

    I can't find a source now, but a change in counting methodology, and those new deaths weren't all in the past 24h


  • #6884
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭screamer


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    What happened in France today..

    2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France [source]

    800+ deaths in nursing homes due to coronavirus that they conveniently forgot to report before, so a huge spike that’s not really a spike. BTW we have people dying in nursing homes here too who are not even being sent to hospitals and I’ve no idea if these deaths are reported in our official figures either.


  • #6885
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    That French total shatters every death total worldwide. And from a relatively low infection rate compared to US and peak Italy.

    Was it more about adding deaths from the nursing homes from previous days to the total than an actual daily total?

    Can anyone clarify before it is overhyped please ?


  • #6886
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    EDIT: this already mentioned by Naggdefy

    France has just officially broken smashed the new death figures for a day after including nursing home deaths.

    +1355

    Why would they not have included nursing home deaths before now.?


  • #6887
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,956 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Who knows but with their type of government i.e very little freedom and also their restrictions on going abroad they are better equipped than most.

    Huge contacts with China though.


  • #6888
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    That French total shatters every death total worldwide. And from a relatively low infection rate compared to US and peak Italy.

    Didn’t they add the cumulative nursing home totals from the last few days to the number today?


  • #6889
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Clown professor on Prime Time still trying to argue masks don't work and the fool public would end up infecting themselves.


  • #6890
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,806 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Why would they not have included nursing home deaths before now.?

    Different method of recording deaths. Nursing home deaths don't occur in hospitals so weren't being picked up.

    It's the same in other areas too, the UK for example.


  • #6891
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Why would they not have included nursing home deaths before now.?

    No country has been.


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  • #6892
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Technically i'm a frog and I can't peel a spud either.

    I think the definition is flexible though.

    I'm a Neanderthal and I eat them skin and all ;) Peeling is time consuming. (having said that I've a fair bit of time on my hands)


  • #6893
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    They've removed the breakdown for health care worker transmission.

    Hope they don't remove anything else tomorrow. :/

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/COVID-19%20Epidemiology%20report%20for%20NPHET%2001.04.2020_website%20version.pdf


  • #6894
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    No cases in North Korea?? What’s their secret?!


  • #6895
    macmahon
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 83 ✭✭macmahon


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    It doesn't, but other Coronaviruses cause mild respiratory symptoms like the common cold. Nowhere tests for them. These tests are for CV19

    So if the test comes back negative for CV19 then you should just presume that if your feeling unwell with symptoms then you just have a different strain of coronavirus then. Thanks


  • #6896
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Why would they not have included nursing home deaths before now.?

    Because it would look bad?


  • #6897
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    macmahon wrote: »
    So if the test comes back negative for CV19 then you should just presume that if your feeling unwell with symptoms then you just have a different strain of coronavirus then. Thanks

    Or it could be flu


  • #6898
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    MadYaker wrote: »
    No cases in North Korea?? What’s their secret?!

    How do yo know how many cases there are in NK?


  • #6899
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


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  • #6900
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I can't find a source now, but a change in counting methodology, and those new deaths weren't all in the past 24h

    To add, from guardian blog:

    French death toll rises by 471
    The number of coronavirus deaths in hospitals in France has reached 4,503, an increase of 471 in 24 hours, slightly fewer than in previous days, Kim Willsher reports from Paris.

    Added to the figure, however, are an estimated 884 deaths in retirement and care homes given for the first time. The head of France’s national health authority, Jérôme Salomon, also said the figures from non-hospital health establishments were only partial.


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  • #6901
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    What happened in France today..

    2116 new cases and 1355 new deaths in France [source]
    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Technically i'm a frog and I can't peel a spud either.

    I think the definition is flexible though.

    Not a good day for frogs

    :(


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