CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Christy42 wrote: »

Liberals obviously. And China. Never themselves. Never their own stupidity.

You say that is if it's only conservatives in fly over states or something who are not social distancing, but that's far from the case:


https://twitter.com/hrtablaze/status/1244664048475492352

https://twitter.com/westmemphispd/status/1244619316886200321


Thousands of people have died in the US and thousands are more likely too. Now's maybe not the best time for the partisan sneering.

Bobtheman wrote: »

Will restrictions be lifted after the 2 weeks expires ??

Very unlikely

Apologies if this has been discussed already but has there been a shift in the narrative this evening given that:

-numbers currently in ICU are now being given when previously only the cumulative (more dramatic) figures were given.

-The numbers appear to be still well under the ICU bed figures of 255, 350, 500, 1000 (take your pick) that are quoted.

-The majority of people who died did not do so in the ICU.

-Dr Holohan has talked about how empty St James' Hospital is and advised people not to avoid attending hospital if they feel they have something serious wrong with them.

-Anecdotally, in the last few weeks, I have heard of people with potentially serious conditions being discouraged from attending hospital in anticipation of the Covid-19 surge.

Putting all of this together, I wonder is there a fear that the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater - has there been an over zealous clearout of hospitals or an over zealous reaction by the general public.

I wonder have nursing home patients with Covid-19 been turned away from hospital and sent back to their homes, effectively to die, for fear of them taking up a bed in anticipation of a surge in cases which may have been overestimated (if the majority of people who test positive for Covid-19 are relatively young, a large proportion of positive cases may not need hospital, let alone ICU)

(I'm aware that even in non Covid-19 times, there would be valid ethical reasons for not admitting very elderly people with serious underlying conditions to an ICU)

BrianD3 wrote: »

Apologies if this has been discussed already but has there been a shift in the narrative this evening given that:

-numbers currently in ICU are now being given when previously only the cumulative (more dramatic) figures were given.

-The numbers appear to be still well under the ICU bed figures of 255, 350, 500, 1000 (take your pick) that are quoted.

-The majority of people who died did not do so in the ICU.

-Dr Holohan has talked about how empty St James' Hospital is and advised people not to avoid attending hospital if they feel they have something serious wrong with them.

-Anecdotally, in the last few weeks, I have heard of people with potentially serious conditions being discouraged from attending hospital in anticipation of the Covid-19 surge.

Putting all of this together, I wonder is there a fear that the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater - has there been an over zealous clearout of hospitals or an over zealous reaction by the general public.

I wonder have nursing home patients with Covid-19 been turned away from hospital and and sent back to their homes, effectively to die, for fear of them taking up a bed in anticipation of a surge in cases which may have been overestimated (if the majority of people who test positive for Covid-19 are relatively young, a large proportion of positive cases may not need hospital, let alone ICU)

(I'm aware that even in non Covid-19 times, there would be valid ethical reasons for not admitting very elderly people with serious underlying conditions to an ICU)

No

wakka12 wrote: »

Brazil is on course to be on the worst affected countries. Once measures take effect in europe, the pandemic will be centred on USA, Brazil and Turkey I would imagine

I think India will overtake everywhere being honest. As for mass graves, you don’t need to go to Brazil their digging them in Northern Ireland at the moment in Antrim I believe. This will get a helluva lot worse before it gets better, I don’t know what we’re going to do

boardz wrote: »

On average I prefer the median

Not very a la mode is it though?

Ace2007 wrote: »

Not as expected, does not mean it doesn't meet the standards. Could have a different feel to it, but could still be appropriate.

And that's exactly what was said, leo mentioned it in his press conference he said there might be a different look or feel to what our healthcare professionals are used too but it is being quality chekced

1057 new cases and 57 deaths today in Brazil.

Going to be a big disaster there due to the actions (or rather inactions) of the country's president.

Lots of farmers burning rubbish and backyard burning now.