CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

XsApollo · 02-04-2020 11:41AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Should we stop eating chicken and pig to stop influenza spreading also?

Yes.
Fillet steaks for everybody.

Hector Savage · 02-04-2020 11:41AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Observation (long piece) on how this virus is affecting how we behave.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200401-covid-19-how-fear-of-coronavirus-is-changing-our-psychology

yeah BBC the biggest issue is "racism" ...

F*ck OFF!!!

You can see the lefty moron writing the article, same sort of idiot that would have been clapping the "Hug a Chinese tourist" initiative to combat "racism" in Florence 2 months ago .... see how northern Italy are doing so well ........... oh wait ...

gozunda · 02-04-2020 11:42AM

frillyleaf wrote: »

I wonder if their health care system can manage it more than heat for example. I would think that actions will be in proportion to what a countries healthcare system can manage

Sweden has fewer ICU beds than either the UK or Ireland per 100000 of the population.

Not looking good for them imo.

ShayNanigan · 02-04-2020 11:42AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If that is true, and I'm not convinced it is, its time to cut China off from international trade in the long run.

Its only a matter of time before their wet markets give us an even worse virus than coronavirus, or a more lethal strain of coronavirus.

Its almost like they are engaging in a form of biological warfare against the rest of the world at this stage.

Coronavirus will kill more people than terrorism by far his year. And will have killed more than all nuclear weapons used in history within a few months.

Like I said in my previous post. There's a very good video about it. It seems they weren't eating the bats. Anyway, I won't go into the whole thing. It's a theory among others.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 11:43AM

Hector Savage wrote: »

yeah BBC the biggest issue is "racism" ...

F*ck OFF!!!

I see you're in flying form again today!:D

tobefrank321 · 02-04-2020 11:43AM

frillyleaf wrote: »

No, in Italy nursing homes and deaths occur in people’s homes are not counted either. Only deaths in hospital

The mayor of Bergamo in Italy said the real figure of deaths was probably 4 times the official figure and I think he was right.

We know that confirmed cases is a small fraction of real cases. Nursing home deaths weren't counted. People who died at home weren't counted. And many simply died without ever being tested. It will be the same wherever there is a huge backlog for testing.

Hector Savage · 02-04-2020 11:44AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If that is true, and I'm not convinced it is, its time to cut China off from international trade in the long run.

Its only a matter of time before their wet markets give us an even worse virus than coronavirus, or a more lethal strain of coronavirus.

Its almost like they are engaging in a form of biological warfare against the rest of the world at this stage.

Coronavirus will kill more people than terrorism by far his year. And will have killed more than all nuclear weapons used in history within a few months.

China is the enemy of the globe, they are back open for business and loving this as they buy up massive stocks when prices are rock bottom.

They have destroyed all rival economies and will be the only super power in 6 months time.

tobefrank321 · 02-04-2020 11:45AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Should we stop eating chicken and pig to stop influenza spreading also?

How many people died from eating chicken and pig in the west this year?

You are Chinese right? Not that it makes too big a deal.

gozunda · 02-04-2020 11:47AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Though this was an excellent point on RTE live blog this morning
Instead of relying on tests - just presume everyone with symptoms has it. If later confirmed negative what harm, at least contacts etc are being isolated and monitored in the interim on the chance that its positive

And that's the issue. With current testing - we really have no idea who does and who does not have it.

For this reason alone - mask wearing needs to be made mandatory now - if only to stop people infecting others whilst out shopping etc.

wakka12 · 02-04-2020 11:49AM

44 American college students out of a group of 70 test positive after returning from spring break in Mexico ...probably all the riding
https://mobile.twitter.com/cnn/status/1245662139592986624?s=21

BluePlanet · 02-04-2020 11:50AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Want to be careful how you look at data in isolation. How does this compare with other weeks? A large proporation of people who die of old age will be finished off by pneumonia or ARD

The data is here if you want to take a look.
https://datacatalog.cookcountyil.gov/Public-Safety/Medical-Examiner-Case-Archive/cjeq-bs86/data

gozunda · 02-04-2020 11:50AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Would it be as bad as the people/alco's who got outraged over the pubs closing?

Generation Lout would you call it?

From the footage of Templebar before the closure of pubs - generation 'lout' and 'pansy' were one and the same.

For the eejits complaining about having to stay at home - cop yerselves on.

ShayNanigan · 02-04-2020 11:52AM

gozunda wrote: »

And that's the issue. With current testing - we really have no idea who does and who does not have it.

For this reason alone - mask wearing needs to be made mandatory now - if only to stop people infecting others whilst out shopping etc.

It should be. But people should also have access to masks - preferably good ones. I don't get why more factories are not making masks 24/7 at the moment. They're not particularly difficult to manufacture. If there was a large enough supply of masks, the propaganda about masks not working and trying to make people feel guilty for using them because they are stealing the protective gear professionals should be wearing would end.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 11:52AM

gozunda wrote: »

And that's the issue. With current testing - we really have no idea who does and who does not have it.

For this reason alone - mask wearing needs to be made mandatory now - if only to stop people infecting others whilst out shopping etc.

We have tended not to do mandatory instructions during this if we can avoid it and the line from the HSE is that they are of no great benefit save in specific situations. Then there's the supply issue.

02-04-2020 12:01PM

Is that the first official address that our president has made since the crisis began?

tobefrank321 · 02-04-2020 12:02PM

wakka12 wrote: »

44 American college students out of a group of 70 test positive after returning from spring break in Mexico ...probably all the riding
https://mobile.twitter.com/cnn/status/1245662139592986624?s=21

Spring Break likely played a huge role in the nationwide spread. There's probably clusters around every campus in America now as well as families of students. Big price to pay for a bit of craic.

jam_mac_jam · 02-04-2020 12:04PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Spring Break likely played a huge role in the nationwide spread. There's probably clusters around every campus in America now as well as families of students. Big price to pay for a bit of craic.

And Mexico also.

Jin luk · 02-04-2020 12:08PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

How many people died from eating chicken and pig in the west this year?

You are Chinese right? Not that it makes too big a deal.

Eating chicken and pig has been the cause of plenty of deadly influenza outbreaks america and mexico was the cause of 2 of these serious outbreaks.

And as it shows in the movie contagion, the bat does not need to be eating for the virus to transfer ti humans.

Last time i checked this virus only had like 97% RNA to bat coronavirus which means their was another host which a human ate.

mikeoc85 · 02-04-2020 12:08PM

gozunda wrote: »

And that's the issue. With current testing - we really have no idea who does and who does not have it.

For this reason alone - mask wearing needs to be made mandatory now - if only to stop people infecting others whilst out shopping etc.

What part of ' there aren't enough masks for everyone ' aren't you able to understand?

Ger Roe · 02-04-2020 12:08PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Spring Break likely played a huge role in the nationwide spread. There's probably clusters around every campus in America now as well as families of students. Big price to pay for a bit of craic.

Yes, but they do have a level of ignorance defense. The US gov was lacking in the strength of the message it was communicating to the people.

It was only a few days ago that Dumpy Trumpy was announcing that the country would be back to normal on Easter Sunday, because he liked Easter and thought it would be a nice occasion on which to lift the light restrictions that they had imposed at the time. Before that it was all a hoax, or he 'imagined' that it was not as bad as people were saying.

How could anyone take the matter seriously with that level of 'leadership'.

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 12:11PM

So those unemployment figures, a record high and likely to go a good bit higher.:(

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0402/1128044-live-register-figures/

02-04-2020 12:11PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

You could leave everything bar fruit/veg and stuff that goes into fridge in the shed for 72 hours. The other stuff could be washed with very soapy water or very diluted bleach.

Milton is the job for this type of thing. Especially their sprays and no danger from them like bleach.

I don't see leaving stuff for 72 hours as practical, we are getting a delivery every 5 to 7 days, we are very low on everything once it arrives and need a lot of the stuff straight away.

gozunda · 02-04-2020 12:14PM

is_that_so wrote: »

We have tended not to do mandatory instructions during this if we can avoid it and the line from the HSE is that they are of no great benefit save in specific situations. Then there's the supply issue.

Unfortunately the HSE are simply parroting the WHO. This situation has now been seriously called into question and many countries are starting to reconsider this advice and making mask wearing mandatory in specific circumstances. .

As to the supply - there are plenty of alternatives. Better safe than sorry when we have absolutely no idea who is or is not infected.

Funsterdelux · 02-04-2020 12:14PM

Sittingpretty wrote: »

I watched a woman I follow on Instagram wash all her delivered groceries with water and bleach.

Is that not ever so slightly OTT or should we now be doing this also?

If you really really really really dont want to catch the virus you ll do everything to minimise the risk.

Im not in an at risk group(not that I know of) but I dont want to ever get it or pass it on. We're washing our fruit/veg with milton and wiping down other groceries.

UrbanFret · 02-04-2020 12:15PM

wakka12 wrote: »

44 American college students out of a group of 70 test positive after returning from spring break in Mexico ...probably all the riding
https://mobile.twitter.com/cnn/status/1245662139592986624?s=21

What were the riding?

Hector Savage · 02-04-2020 12:15PM

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2020/03/chinese-government-promotes-bear-bile-as-coronavirus-covid19-treatment/

filthy fecking kernts

dougm1970 · 02-04-2020 12:18PM

see spains death total has gone over 10,000

is_that_so · 02-04-2020 12:18PM

gozunda wrote: »

Unfirtunstrly the HSE are parroing the WHO. This situation has now been seriously called into question and many countries are starting to reconsider this advice and making mask wearing msdatirybin specific circumstances. .

As to the supply - there are plenty of alternatives. Better safe than sorry when we have absolutely no idea is or is not infected.

They say they are working off evidence. I adopt the usual precautions anywhere I go and that works for me and mine. If an edict comes I'll oblige but I do understand that some people feel a need to wear one.

Klonker · 02-04-2020 12:18PM

If anyone is wondering where all the bread in the shops is going!

02-04-2020 12:18PM

gozunda wrote: »

And that's the issue. With current testing - we really have no idea who does and who does not have it.

For this reason alone - mask wearing needs to be made mandatory now - if only to stop people infecting others whilst out shopping etc.

I think people are underestimating what testing is telling us.

Even if our testing looks low we are doing much more targeted testing and are testing similar numbers every day. If our positive tests stay around the same it shows that its not spreading wildly as if the overall number of positives is increasing but the daily numbers are not shooting up then clearly things are being contained.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP