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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    WW1 invented PSTD, the original snowflakes

    PTSD with good bloody reason.
    This restriction period is not comparable to war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Be right back


    ZX7R wrote: »
    It's the morning I'd no sleep
    My son special needs didn't sleep so I stayed up with him let the wife sleep.
    So excuse my spelling , it's the least of my worries

    Fair play to you, that's not easy. Take care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid




    Levity interlude.
    Sandra, the orangutan, is mimicking her carers who have been washing their hands much more frequently. Awwww :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Create fear and panic. If it gets idiots to take things seriously, I'm all for it.

    Fear and panic is not good. Anxiety levels rise and people so irrational things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    China 35 new cases 6 deaths


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    uli84 wrote: »
    Sorry if it was discussed already..in Sweden life remained pretty much normal with small exceptions but schools, creches are open, people are working etc. yet their numbers are not really much higher than anywhere else (?)

    They're doing very badly compared with their neighbours - Norway and Denmark

    It looks like a disastrous strategy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Gynoid wrote: »
    PTSD with good bloody reason.
    This restriction period is not comparable to war.

    Yes..being asked to watch Netflix for two weeks is the same as WWII...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    uli84 wrote: »
    Sorry if it was discussed already..in Sweden life remained pretty much normal with small exceptions but schools, creches are open, people are working etc. yet their numbers are not really much higher than anywhere else (?)

    The Swedish are distinctly more inclined to follow guidelines. Many people will work from home or take their children out of school and will socially distance anyway.

    We're more cavalier and if we weren't specifically told to stay inside we'd be doing business as usual. It's all down to societal norms. The media never give a context for its stories, that's the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    There will be but they will be extreme outliers, the media love these stories as they generate clicks,fear and panic.

    Your point almost hints that these specific cases should not be reported?

    It's common sense that the sick and old will die in greater numbers or have greater risk of dying from from pretty much anything.
    However it was pedalled by media/government that it didn't affect the young and healthy with any great significance. We know now that isn't true and it's important to highlight this because many of the isolation breakers are young people (not exclusively )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    gabeeg wrote: »
    They're doing very badly compared with their neighbours - Norway and Denmark

    It looks like a disastrous strategy

    If Sweden had followed Norway and Denmark, instead of 239 deaths, they would have had between 80-180.

    Calling any of those figures 'disastrous' is ludicrous.

    This time last year, if I suggested shutting millions of people into their homes for weeks at a time to save between 60 and 160 people, I would have been laughed at.

    This is a mass delusion. In a year you won't wonder what came over you to think that this was reasonable - you'll deny you ever thought it was a good idea at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Lillyfae wrote: »
    To be fair though, they would most likely have witnessed someone being blown to bits in front of them or some such so that might entitle them to a bit of a lip wobble.

    Sure. But if we missed people having issues after seeing their friends blown up how many other issues did we miss. Like they were the most obvious cases going and people still go on as if they got on with it with a stuff upper lip. So what else did we miss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Yesterdays numbers:

    Denmark - 247 new cases and 14 new deaths
    Norway - 236 new cases and 5 new deaths
    Sweden - 512 new cases and 59 new deaths

    Things are significantly worse in Sweden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    A 6 week old baby died in America. A 13 year old died in the UK, a 16 year old died in France. A 42 year old died in Ireland (going by what another poster said here yesterday).

    I think there will be deaths of all ages and not just the old.

    Context again. Not every young person (or baby, as I know all too well) is completely healthy.

    For fcuks sake people, if you're going to read a media article at least do your research before jumping to conclusions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Nermal wrote: »
    If Sweden had followed Norway and Denmark, instead of 239 deaths, they would have had between 80-180.

    Calling any of those figures 'disastrous' is ludicrous.

    This time last year, if I suggested shutting millions of people into their homes for weeks at a time to save between 60 and 160 people, I would have been laughed at.

    This is a mass delusion. In a year you won't wonder what came over you to think that this was reasonable - you'll deny you ever thought it was a good idea at all.

    you're framing is wrong unless you have a good certainty over the total numbers, not the numbers as of today. There is a trade off somewhere though

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Nermal wrote: »
    If Sweden had followed Norway and Denmark, instead of 239 deaths, they would have had between 80-180.

    Calling any of those figures 'disastrous' is ludicrous.

    This time last year, if I suggested shutting millions of people into their homes for weeks at a time to save between 60 and 160 people, I would have been laughed at.

    This is a mass delusion. In a year you won't wonder what came over you to think that this was reasonable - you'll deny you ever thought it was a good idea at all.

    Any chance you can stop banging the same drum over and over, tiresome at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yesterdays numbers:

    Denmark - 247 new cases and 14 new deaths
    Norway - 236 new cases and 5 new deaths
    Sweden - 512 new cases and 59 new deaths

    Things are significantly worse in Sweden.

    yup, it's a a grim experiment they are running. hopefully a sad lesson for other countries thinking of going a similar route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Nermal wrote: »
    If Sweden had followed Norway and Denmark, instead of 239 deaths, they would have had between 80-180.

    Calling any of those figures 'disastrous' is ludicrous.

    This time last year, if I suggested shutting millions of people into their homes for weeks at a time to save between 60 and 160 people, I would have been laughed at.

    This is a mass delusion. In a year you won't wonder what came over you to think that this was reasonable - you'll deny you ever thought it was a good idea at all.

    You're right, Nermal, if last year you had suggested shutting millions of people into their homes I would have laughed at you.

    But that's all you're right about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    froog wrote: »
    yup, it's a a grim experiment they are running. hopefully a sad lesson for other countries thinking of going a similar route.

    hopefully they have found a solution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    Nermal wrote: »
    If Sweden had followed Norway and Denmark, instead of 239 deaths, they would have had between 80-180.

    Calling any of those figures 'disastrous' is ludicrous.

    This time last year, if I suggested shutting millions of people into their homes for weeks at a time to save between 60 and 160 people, I would have been laughed at.

    This is a mass delusion. In a year you won't wonder what came over you to think that this was reasonable - you'll deny you ever thought it was a good idea at all.

    I've seen your posts before. Why do you spout such crap? If we were free to roam there'd be thousands of deaths. You cannot extrapolate from false assumption and claim yourself a soothsayer.

    Go off to America and see how long you last, c u next Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    ZX7R wrote: »
    It's the morning I'd no sleep
    My son special needs didn't sleep so I stayed up with him let the wife sleep.
    So excuse my spelling , it's the least of my worries

    Before people criticise or be pedantic they need to realise they don’t know what’s going on in someone’s life and what people are going through we all need to be a lot nicer and kinder at the moment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭uli84


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yesterdays numbers:

    Denmark - 247 new cases and 14 new deaths
    Norway - 236 new cases and 5 new deaths
    Sweden - 512 new cases and 59 new deaths

    Things are significantly worse in Sweden.

    Swedish population is double just to start with
    In fact both Norway and Denmark has higher number of cases per million people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,636 ✭✭✭the.red.baron


    The Swedish are distinctly more inclined to follow guidelines. Many people will work from home or take their children out of school and will socially distance anyway.

    We're more cavalier and if we weren't specifically told to stay inside we'd be doing business as usual. It's all down to societal norms. The media never give a context for its stories, that's the problem.


    would ya go on out of that, if the schools are open and exams are on, what do you think they are going to do


    if work requires them to come in they will come in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yesterdays numbers:

    Denmark - 247 new cases and 14 new deaths
    Norway - 236 new cases and 5 new deaths
    Sweden - 512 new cases and 59 new deaths

    Things are significantly worse in Sweden.

    A few weeks ago Norway were at about 500 cases new a day, lockdown seems to be really working there, I guess the population density in spain and italy is f*cking everything up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I wonder what our figures would be without the Nursing Home clusters ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    It’s possible we will hit 1 million cases today 😱


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,591 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Before people criticise or be pedantic they need to realise they don’t know what’s going on in someone’s life and what people are going through we all need to be a lot nicer and kinder at the moment

    Also the worst thing one can do after no sleep is go on the internet. How can you destress or put a coherent thought together?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Before people criticise or be pedantic they need to realise they don’t know what’s going on in someone’s life and what people are going through we all need to be a lot nicer and kinder at the moment

    Here here.
    Unless you are one of the C unts that robbed a car and broke into some others in the estate beside mine on Tuesday night. I’d pay to watch the **** being kicked out of them.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    like in Spain, cases rocketting again, despite being on lockdown for almost 3 weeks.
    its gonna spread anyway, just get it over with, now all they're doing is destroying the economy and peoples mental health.

    I was listening to one scientist (can't recall who or even the show/pod) in the field talking about the different tactics used by different countries. It was at the time GB appeared to be changing tack from herd to their present position. Was that a week ago? A year ago? He reasoned that while some methods appeared riskier than others and he understood the "lowering the curve" for health care management he said that countries should stick to the path they've taken.

    His hypothesis was that there was little to be gained by changing tack during a process as the genie would be out of the bottle either way. However by sticking with the initial plan there would be data gained from differing approaches. While I don't mean to throw out a "but a random scientist said..." but this did strike me as sensible.

    We kinda need different approaches in western democracies for future best practice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Chinas active cases are going down roughly about 250 a day they now have less than 1900 active cases on worldometer if its spreading so rapidly around the world how in gods name have they only had like 85k cases.

    Would it be something to do with them being prepared due to SARS?


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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Jacob Helpful Stadium


    The economic impact of coronavirus will be least severe in Ireland among OECD countries according to new report.

    The OECD has published a report evaluating the initial impact of coronavirus containment measures on its members’ economies, with Ireland expected to be the least scathed.
    https://www.siliconrepublic.com/companies/oecd-coronavirus-ireland

    This is the full report - https://read.oecd-ilibrary.org/view/?ref=126_126496-evgsi2gmqj&title=Evaluating_the_initial_impact_of_COVID-19_containment_measures_on_economic_activity


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