CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Professor Moriarty · 01-04-2020 08:10PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Yes, that makes a lot of sense actually. But I still don't get how there is still a big surge on the way when everyone knows the rules.

Well the incubation period is 2-14 days. So families with asymptomatic/mild infections would be happily living together and spreading it around - especially since the lock down. The people they infect would be starting to get symptoms now or soon. It lasts for two weeks if it's mild and up to six if it's serious.

tuxy · 01-04-2020 08:11PM

Once a world war doesn't break out we should be able to deal with this better than the Spanish flu.
They also had no antibiotics for secondary infection back then.

Fr_Dougal · 01-04-2020 08:12PM

Covid19 wrote: »

Sadly, no. I was around in 1918 though, but under a different name.

Your username is in very poor taste considering what’s going on.

podgeandrodge · 01-04-2020 08:12PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

A lot of healthcare workers. Elderly in nursing homes that have been hit by the virus. Then community spreading is likely people out in shops or people who are working still.

I'm hoping the people just doing a bit of necessary shopping in the supermarkets are not particularly at risk (insofar as nothing is risk free)

tobefrank321 · 01-04-2020 08:12PM

20silkcut wrote: »

The WHO have been fighting epidemics for years they know what they are at. And this epidemic is far from their nightmare scenario.
Google WHO disease X if you have the time.

Meh. They opposed travel bans to and from hotspot areas which was perhaps the main reason covid 19 spread so far and rapidly around the world.

https://www.who.int/news-room/articles-detail/updated-who-recommendations-for-international-traffic-in-relation-to-covid-19-outbreak

ITman88 · 01-04-2020 08:13PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Your username is in very poor taste considering what’s going on.

Our sense of humour has departed us with the restrictions

Strumms · 01-04-2020 08:13PM

Steve F wrote: »

The people you mentioned about meeting for a 30 mins catch up over a Coffee etc really need to educate themselves on the art of video calling.
It's been around for years now and isn't rocket science...a child can do it.No excuse in this day and age.Just about everyone has a smartphone or tablet.Better still Laptop,they all have built in Cameras,use them

If you are in your 70’s or 80’s it’s time to educate and BE educated, help from loved ones etc with this stuff. Gonna need it.

kilkenny31 · 01-04-2020 08:14PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I'm hoping the people just doing a bit of necessary shopping in the supermarkets are not particularly at risk (insofar as nothing is risk free)

Yes which would explain why our numbers are so low. But people would rather believe they aren't.

Steve F · 01-04-2020 08:15PM

Strumms wrote: »

If you are in your 70’s or 80’s it’s time to educate and BE educated, help from loved ones etc with this stuff. Gonna need it.

Well said

New Home · 01-04-2020 08:15PM

pjohnson · 01-04-2020 08:15PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Your username is in very poor taste considering what’s going on.

Some will love it.

Right on que :pac:

ITman88 wrote: »

Our sense of humour has departed us with the restrictions

Strumms · 01-04-2020 08:16PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

They also decided to let the virus rip and wait for 'herd immunity'. Of course that did not last long when the entomology experts got the memo. Then they decided to only test those presenting to hospital - at a rate of less than half ours. The allowed Cheltenham to go, and refused to close schools. Now they have over 500 deaths a day.

I think their (the UK) predictions should be ignored.

The UK made a right bôllocks of this. An absolute clown of a Prime Minister, right wing party with keys in hand. No surprise really.

Martina1991 · 01-04-2020 08:16PM

rossie1977 wrote:

Only the harsher restrictions or 25 times the daily testing can slow this thing down.

Testing doesn't slow the spread of the virus.

The people slow the spread of the virus.

Testing determines how effective the people are slowing the spread.

So we must continue the social distancing and handwashing regardless of numbers.

Flattening the curve and preventing deaths is on us, all of us .

An Ciarraioch · 01-04-2020 08:17PM

Achasanai wrote: »

The figures quoted a couple of weeks ago would have had us on an exponential growth, one that no country has (yet) seen. I get why it was announced (scare us into taking this seriously) but the more you look at graphs (particularly ones that break it down per head of population) we don't do particularly well all in all: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Bar the countries that are really struggling (Italy, Spain) and a load of micro-states, we seem to be right up there.

Using the crude measure of deaths per million, we are currently 12th when micro-states are excluded - mind you, the countries ahead of us have astronomical rates - Belgium on 71 DPM, Holland on 68, and Switzerland on 56, so while our 17 is unwelcome, it's far from exceptional in Europe.

Xertz · 01-04-2020 08:17PM

Hopefully the Spanish flu time line isn’t a template for this. We have a much better set of technologies at our disposal, including an understanding of viruses, biology and biotechnology that is just incomparable to what was around in 1918 or even 1988.

I would be careful about making assumptions that by taking minimal measures, a socially distanced coffee is fine. We don’t really know a lot about this virus yet. It’s not the flu and it’s not a cold. So the transmission capabilities are quite different. I think that’s where most countries made initial mistakes. The simple measures that one might take to prevent flu spread aren’t enough for this.

So do stick to video conferencing. There are some essential industries and jobs that will have to make do with steps to minimise exposure, social distancing and PPE. If you’re not in one of those, just don’t put yourself and others at unnecessary risk. Is a coffee with a colleague worth risking someone’s health and potentially life over?

The unknowns are being cleared up as the days and weeks go on but for now, I would take the most cautious approaches possible.

Steve F · 01-04-2020 08:17PM

Has anyone else heard about the tons of food being dumped that people Panic bought and stockpiled or did I dream it?
So much happening I'm not sure what's real and what's imagined

woohoo!!! · 01-04-2020 08:17PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Your username is in very poor taste considering what’s going on.

Poster named after a comedian lacks a sense of humour...

2ndcoming · 01-04-2020 08:18PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Per capita, at 8 days after their first death (where Ireland is now), Spain, Belgium, San Marino and Andorra were doing worse than we are. Every other country was doing better.

For total deaths, at 5 days after the 10th death (where Ireland is now), China, Turkey and the UK were doing worse than we are. Every other country was doing better.

There are far too many variables in this to read anything from it while the numbers are still relatively low.

ITman88 · 01-04-2020 08:19PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Some will love it.

Right on que :pac:

Exactly! Wouldn’t let you down!!
I kept mine, you don’t seem like the kinda guy to appreciate a joke!!

pjohnson · 01-04-2020 08:19PM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Poster named after a comedian lacks a sense of humour...

Hes named after a character.....Ardal O'Hanlon was the comedian.

Eric Cartman · 01-04-2020 08:20PM

Steve F wrote: »

Has anyone else heard about the tons of food being dumped that people Panic bought and stockpiled or did I dream it?
So much happening I'm not sure what's real and what's imagined

those pictures are more likely restaurants and hotels dumping freezer contents they're unable to sell rather than hoarders.

Naggdefy · 01-04-2020 08:20PM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Poster named after a comedian lacks a sense of humour...

I wouldn't call registering or rereging as 'Covid 19' humour.

It's childish.

elperello · 01-04-2020 08:20PM

Strumms wrote: »

If you are in your 70’s or 80’s it’s time to educate and BE educated, help from loved ones etc with this stuff. Gonna need it.

Good idea but unfortunately it will be difficult to instruct many older citizens without breaching social distancing guidelines.

Xertz · 01-04-2020 08:21PM

Steve F wrote: »

Has anyone else heard about the tons of food being dumped that people Panic bought and stockpiled or did I dream it?
So much happening I'm not sure what's real and what's imagined

Yeah that’s inevitable. There was some degree (not remotely as bad here as it was in the U.K. and US) of panic buying of fresh, non storable food. Also most households don’t have enormous freezers these days. The days of a chest freezer in the garage have largely faded away.

You could see on tv and YouTube footage that many people were buying way too much fresh food. Far more than they could possibly consume.

There’ll be a lot of heavy compost bins unfortunately and a lot of people with a enough toilet paper to survive until well past Xmas.

There’ll also be a few households eating canned food until 2022 by the looks of what happened some of the supply chains.

I honestly think Ireland wasn’t that bad though. There have been maybe two panic buying blips which calmed down within a day.

If you have food coming to date. Try and make arrangements to pass (safely) to neighbours or to charity.

AlmightyCushion · 01-04-2020 08:21PM

Steve F wrote: »

Has anyone else heard about the tons of food being dumped that people Panic bought and stockpiled or did I dream it?
So much happening I'm not sure what's real and what's imagined

I doubt it. Most of the stuff that for stockpiled was stuff with a long shelf life, pasta, rice, frozen stuff, tinned foods etc.

pjohnson · 01-04-2020 08:22PM

Naggdefy wrote: »

I wouldn't call registering or rereging as 'Covid 19' humour.

It's childish.

But it does reflect the mental age of some. This is just an economic nuisance and the deaths dont matter. Therefore its great fun to laugh about.

MadYaker · 01-04-2020 08:22PM

Is the lockdown really sustainable for months? There was an article in the guardian today about Italy. This is week 4 of their lockdown now, queues are getting long at food banks and people are starting to get seriously agitated and are wondering what’s going to happen to the jobs they had before. I hope there won’t be social unrest but it sounds like there could be. The lockdown we have here would be sustainable for longer imo. It’s not as stringent and our government seems to be better organised.

elperello · 01-04-2020 08:23PM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Poster named after a comedian lacks a sense of humour...

Neither Fr. Dougal or Ardal O'Hanlon ever did any harm to anyone.
Covid 19 is a killer.

01-04-2020 08:23PM

Covid19 wrote: »

Sadly, no. I was around in 1918 though, but under a different name.

That's really funny the way you called yourself Covid19 after the topical event of the day.
Can't help thinking you deserve some kind of reward for your craic and wit.
Maybe a Ban?

Naggdefy · 01-04-2020 08:24PM

pjohnson wrote: »

But it does reflect the mental age of some. This is just an economic nuisance and the deaths dont matter. Therefore its great fun to laugh about.

The economy will be fine and get going globally post Covid. The roaring 20s followed WW1 and 1918 flu.

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP