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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • #5162
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Sittingpretty wrote: »
    I just learned of the death of a parent in my child’s school with COVID 19.

    Age 42 :(
    Is that in D7? I have a message from my son's school which names an individual who has died but I didn't recognise the name.


  • #5163
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,093 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Yeah but not many people over 65 are working now are they? Besides 1/4 of the entire population in isolation is better than 3/4 of the entire population in isolation as it is now

    Will you compensate everyone forced out of work with your plan?


  • #5164
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,880 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Reckless Abandonment wrote: »
    If the numbers do start to drop in the next 2 weeks they will have to start letting things open up again in a controlled manner. Then if the numbers look to be going bad, another lockdown. Can't see any other way around this.
    How about maintaining the lockdown until the number of new cases per day has fallen to single figures (according to extensive and reliable testing), even if that takes 2-3 months?


  • #5165
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,149 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Talisman wrote: »
    Is that in D7? I have a message from my son's school which names an individual who has died but I didn't recognise the name.

    Why are they texting people with the deceased's name?


  • #5166
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    How about maintaining the lockdown until the number of new cases per day has fallen to single figures (according to extensive and reliable testing), even if that takes 2-3 months?

    that's years away, how would you pay for it ?


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  • #5167
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Will you compensate everyone forced out of work with your plan?

    You mean like they are doing now with all the people that were laid off.


  • #5168
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    gmisk wrote: »
    So like someone else said 1/4 to 1/5th of the population....good luck with that.

    Under house arrest when you are free to go out and exercise, go to supermarket and chemist...

    Good luck with what? if they are in the vulnerable age group and don't adhere to the isolation request then it is their own fault if they get the virus.

    They will be told to isolate for their safety..


  • #5169
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,591 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    How about maintaining the lockdown until the number of new cases per day has fallen to single figures (according to extensive and reliable testing), even if that takes 2-3 months?

    It’s an interesting science question. We have no vaccine so want people to get it but not in huge numbers all at once. I wonder how long though an economy can be put on hold for that to be achieved.


  • #5170
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    gmisk wrote: »
    They might be getting around it by selling dog food?

    But all supermarkets sell dog food.


  • #5171
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,591 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    I have seen a lot of elderly people out walking locally here by themselves and with their dogs.


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  • #5172
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,093 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    niallo27 wrote: »
    You mean like they are doing now with all the people that were laid off.

    Thats only a fraction of their wage and its applied to all. If everyone EXCEPT those with asthma, cardiac issues etc. are allowed return to work but they are discriminated against they should recieve the full wage there were on before being forcibly removed.


  • #5173
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    But all supermarkets sell dog food.

    Only cheap ****e that you really shouldn't give your dog.


  • #5174
    scamalert
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    How about maintaining the lockdown until the number of new cases per day has fallen to single figures (according to extensive and reliable testing), even if that takes 2-3 months?years
    fixed that for you.


  • #5175
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Why not?

    Because it's the footfall factor that constitutes the element of risk.

    Some of the fair, generous, considerate, charitable, friendly banks are open too.


  • #5176
    [Deleted User]
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    otnomart wrote: »
    The number of tests in Germany had been a mistery for a long while,
    I finally found it buried in the German report from Robert Koch - page 6, section titled Labortestungen.
    Google Translate: "The feedback from the laboratories showed that 918,460 samples have been tested so far from the beginning of the collection up to and including calendar week 13/2020, of which 64,906 were tested positive for SARS-CoV-2."
    https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Situationsberichte/Gesamt.html

    Looks like a lot around this people are reading headlines and not the actual articles perhaps or just posting stuff for a way to get some dig politically.


  • #5177
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    A Covid-19 Observation and Quarantine Facility on Galang Island, Batam city, Indonesiais expected to be completed on April 5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMfl4s1iik8


    Source


  • #5178
    Reckless Abandonment
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    How about maintaining the lockdown until the number of new cases per day has fallen to single figures (according to extensive and reliable testing), even if that takes 2-3 months?

    That could take 3/4 months. The economy couldn't take that. And like it or not the economy is vital to us all.


  • #5179
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Government and the HSE doing a great job of handling this crisis it must be said. More importantly Irish people have responded brilliantly.


  • #5180
    munsterlegend
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    6 wrote: »
    Government and the HSE doing a great job of handling this crisis it must be said. Irish people have responded brilliantly.

    Thanks Simon(x2).


  • #5181
    MarkY91
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,071 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Only cheap ****e that you really shouldn't give your dog.

    I don't own a dog so don't know the difference but it sounds a bit unbelievable that loads of different brands of dog food from the supermarket isn't good enough for you dog and only some hipster, probably vegan dog grooming bought food is good enough.


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  • #5182
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭Talisman


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Why are they texting people with the deceased's name?
    Technically they didn't text, it's a message on the school app, not that it makes much difference.


  • #5183
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Thats only a fraction of their wage and its applied to all. If everyone EXCEPT those with asthma, cardiac issues etc. are allowed return to work but they are discriminated against they should recieve the full wage there were on before being forcibly removed.

    Well if you think that, are we not all being discriminated right now by being removed from our jobs and receive our full wage. I do think they should compensated in some way though.


  • #5184
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    Stheno wrote: »
    I dont get the negativity on here tbh

    Yesterday we had tested over 30000 people in total to date

    Today the UK had tested just over 150000

    So if they had tested at the same rate as us, with a population 12 times our size the figure would be 360000

    They've not even done half that.

    Their death rate today of 563 would equate to approx 40 deaths here today, not the 14 reported

    Our population are compliant for the most part with restrictions

    The deputy CMO today said signs were positive

    Wtf is up with all the bickering??

    Who cares how many die, the old we are not as bad as the Brits argument.


  • #5185
    [Deleted User]
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    munsterlegend wrote: »
    Thanks Simon(x2).

    :confused:


  • #5186
    pjohnson
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    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well if you think that, are we not all being discriminated right now by being removed from our jobs and receive our full wage. I do think they should compensated in some way though.

    Everyone is being treated the same so no discrimination. If you force people out of the workforce permanently as a policy then thats a problem.


  • #5187
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    I don't own a dog so don't know the difference but it sounds a bit unbelievable that loads of different brands of dog food from the supermarket isn't good enough for you dog and only some hipster, probably vegan dog grooming bought food is good enough.

    I spend about 70 euro a month on a 15kg bag, if you cant even bother spending that you really shouldn't have a dog. The supermarket stuff is awful. It really is awful stuff.


  • #5188
    PokeHerKing
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    Reckless Abandonment wrote: »
    That could take 3/4 months. The economy couldn't take that. And like it or not the economy is vital to us all.

    This is happening the world over, reopening before we and the world have this under control would be pointless and stupid.

    It took Hubei /China three months to get this under control under much more draconian measures. So we'll be doing well if this under control the world over in three months.


  • #5189
    jams100
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    Am I the only person who thinks this isn't really going anywhere until we have a vaccine? A lot of positive comments on here but at the end of the day its 208 new cases even with all the restrictions (I know the lockdown figures) will take a bit of time to be reflected but from what I saw people were social distancing in general quite well from well over 10 days ago now. Considering the global nature even if we get it under control we're likely to get imported cases or when we return to some sense of normality it will flare up again. When will the balancing point come from people dying from covid and maybe mental health issues/other issues due to hospitals essentially being shut down for diagnostics etc. Just to add I'm in support of the current restrictions before someone has a go and know why its needed just how long can it go on for? a Month? 2 months? indefinitely?


  • #5190
    otnomart
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    France has 6000 in ICU today.
    They have been able to move patients by high speed TGV train to Regions less under pressure (similar to Italy, which is using military planes with biohazard equipment)
    https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/coronavirus-509-morts-de-plus-en-24-heures-6017-personnes-hospitalisees-en-reanimation-1886536.html




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  • #5191
    lbj666
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    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Good luck with what? if they are in the vulnerable age group and don't adhere to the isolation request then it is their own fault if they get the virus.

    They will be told to isolate for their safety..

    Its not just their safety, people of that age maybe happy with the risk and may have come to terms with the possibility of meeting their maker, but the health service wont thank them if they show up in hospital all at once.


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