CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

MD1990 · 01-04-2020 04:56PM

drop in both cases & deaths(R.i.P)

Hopefully the measures will start to take affect.

01-04-2020 04:57PM

hmmm wrote: »

I've read a bit up on the travel restrictions question. Primarily the aversion to doing it is due to the economic and supply chain impact - once one country starts putting in travel restrictions, it forces everyone else to copy them. You end up in this cascade where politicians are always forced to follow the most restrictive country for fear of being seen "not to do enough". Public Health isn't about simply stopping a virus, it's about balancing the actions taken versus the impact of those actions on the wider health and economy of the country.

The impact of borders being shut worldwide are just enormous. Particularly for a country like Ireland which is hugely dependent on trade, imports and exports. If we ended up in a world where the shutters have come down worldwide, we could just about feed ourselves a basic diet - but a lot of other (critical) things stop entering the country.

So I can imagine if you're a politician you'd prefer to shut travel to affected areas, but there's a very very severe risk that you can end up in a far worse place as a consequence.

And I would think that the number of people coming into Ireland is now so small now as to be not worth this measure being taken.

froog · 01-04-2020 04:57PM

solid numbers. hope Big T gets back on the horse soon and we can put this thing to bed.

gabeeg · 01-04-2020 04:57PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah, my state is doing a pretty good job so far of flattening the curve and has had restrictions in place for weeks now. Some states have barely any cases. New York is an epicentre and is not representative of the entire country. Even there they are coping OK so far and have put in thousands of extra beds and resources.

New York is doing terribly

Low on PPE, ventilators and staff. It's going to be one of the worst calamities ever to befall the state

Away With The Fairies · 01-04-2020 04:57PM

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/china-finds-new-coronavirus-strain-21793918

I’m sorry but how the f*ck is this virus natural.

Jesus Christ and their markets are still carrying on.

domrush · 01-04-2020 04:57PM

Osborne wrote: »

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

You are being dense to be honest. It’s been clarified multiple times

branie2 · 01-04-2020 04:58PM

RiP to the 14 people who have died

gabeeg · 01-04-2020 04:58PM

froog wrote: »

solid numbers. hope Big T gets back on the horse soon and we can put this thing to bed.

I hope Holohan makes a full recovery so he's one day able to face an inquiry

Osborne · 01-04-2020 04:58PM

domrush wrote: »

You are being dense to be honest. It’s been clarified multiple times

And the answer is?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 01-04-2020 04:59PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is it likely? The US has more ICU beds per person, more ventilators (and the ability to make more) and despite what people who dont live here think, those without insurance WILL be treated.

Each state is pretty much like it's own country and does not need trump to take action.

I dont like Trump either, but some on here are almost wishing that america goes to **** just to prove a point that he is a dick.

Many people taking the same attitude with the UK too.

They can't see the irony of thinking Trump/BoJo are horrible people, yet they are wishing for large death totals in these countries so they can be somehow proven correct in their assertions... quite perverse really! :rolleyes:

domrush · 01-04-2020 04:59PM

Osborne wrote: »

And the answer is?

It’s the number of people admitted since the start . It is not the current number of people in ICU

TheValeyard · 01-04-2020 04:59PM

Shn99 wrote: »

Education minister still determined to see state exams for students go ahead as normal
https://www.newstalk.com/news/mchugh-state-exams-planned-993123?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585757798

He has to say that. If he said exams may not go ahead, students would just not do a tap and not bother continuing lessons.

Although tbh, I definitely do not see the JC going ahead, but the LC could go ahead in a much more staggered and spaced approach. With no JC students doing exams, their is a lot more spacing, room, but still left with the problem of the SEC staffing centres, social distancing, etc.

Peruvian Flake · 01-04-2020 04:59PM

Vast majority of the 126 are still In ICU

CitizenFloor · 01-04-2020 04:59PM

THANK YOU GEORGE!

AlmightyCushion · 01-04-2020 05:00PM

Osborne wrote: »

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

froog · 01-04-2020 05:00PM

i'd say the angelus is getting record viewing numbers recently.

is_that_so · 01-04-2020 05:01PM

Osborne wrote: »

And the answer is?

Admitted but that many if not all are still there as people seem to spend a long time in ICU internationally.

Logan Roy · 01-04-2020 05:01PM

Peruvian Flake wrote: »

Vast majority of the 126 are still In ICU

Source?

fritzelly · 01-04-2020 05:01PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

No it hasn't, HSE and HSPC were saying originally it was the total for the day - so they have been changing the definition and one saying one thing, the other saying another

Away With The Fairies · 01-04-2020 05:02PM

Marsden35 wrote: »

We're passed a million already, given that China and Iran have lied about their figures. China is easily 10 times higher in cases and deaths. As is Iran. Some estimate Iran is at least 20 times worse than official figures.

I reckon China wanted this, send of their people to infect others around the world.

domrush · 01-04-2020 05:02PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Admitted but that many if not all are still there as people seem to spend a long time in ICU internationally.

That was not said, and as morbid as it sounds, deaths will reduce the number in ICU.

An HIQA report today said the median time was 7 days in ICU

fin12 · 01-04-2020 05:02PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Jesus Christ and their markets are still carrying on.

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

tom1ie · 01-04-2020 05:02PM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

snowgal · 01-04-2020 05:04PM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Source?

The Doctor literally just said it on the briefing 2 minutes ago!

Peruvian Flake · 01-04-2020 05:04PM

Logan Roy wrote: »

Source?

RTE news now, it was said in the briefing.

An Ciarraioch · 01-04-2020 05:04PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

As well as deaths, some cases will have recovered and been sent home.

Away With The Fairies · 01-04-2020 05:04PM

fin12 wrote: »

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

It's so hard to tune out of this since it's so close to us.

growleaves · 01-04-2020 05:04PM

He is a contrarian who's views are a direct contradiction to the majority scientific opinion on this pandemic.

Science doesn't work by taking a show of hands.

(Although where has it has been established that a majority of scientists share the opinion of Ferguson, Fauci etc.? That is not at all clear.)

Here is the opinion of a Professor of Molecular Pharmacology at the Université Pierre et Marie Curie in Paris.

There is no evidence to show that the 2019 coronavirus is more lethal than respiratory adenoviruses, influenza viruses, coronaviruses from previous years, or rhinoviruses responsible for the common cold.

BrianD3 · 01-04-2020 05:05PM

Blanco100 wrote: »

This is positive news then. No member of the public will be any the wiser as to how many are in ICU at any given time so.

126 cases in ICU with 80+ deaths, can we read between lines then that ICU numbers are not over the 100 mark?

At least some of those who died never made it into the ICU. Or the hospital. One of those who died recently was in a nursing home, she was refused admission to the hospital and was sent back to the nursing home, basically to die. Which she did.

The conspiracy theorist in me might say that inflating the ICU numbers using a metric which can never reduce could be used as a justification for actions such as turning people away from hospital.

poppers · 01-04-2020 05:05PM

tom1ie wrote: »

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

just been answered in the press conference.

its the total number admitted but as per normal icu stays are for a long time so it likley most of the 126 are still there

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