CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

frillyleaf wrote: »

I’m still not sure of the logic of allowing unrestricted travel from epicentres. I’ve asked a few times and haven’t been given an answer apart from “ it was going to get here anyway”. I know that but I think restrictions would help in terms of slowing it down and contact tracing at the start.

I've read a bit up on the travel restrictions question. Primarily the aversion to doing it is due to the economic and supply chain impact - once one country starts putting in travel restrictions, it forces everyone else to copy them. You end up in this cascade where politicians are always forced to follow the most restrictive country for fear of being seen "not to do enough". Public Health isn't about simply stopping a virus, it's about balancing the actions taken versus the impact of those actions on the wider health and economy of the country.

The impact of borders being shut worldwide are just enormous. Particularly for a country like Ireland which is hugely dependent on trade, imports and exports. If we ended up in a world where the shutters have come down worldwide, we could just about feed ourselves a basic diet - but a lot of other (critical) things stop entering the country.

So I can imagine if you're a politician you'd prefer to shut travel to affected areas, but there's a very very severe risk that you can end up in a far worse place as a consequence.

The people asking the question about ICU at the media conference, need to hand in their journalists badges.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is it likely? The US has more ICU beds per person, more ventilators (and the ability to make more) and despite what people who dont live here think, those without insurance WILL be treated.

Each state is pretty much like it's own country and does not need trump to take action.

I dont like Trump either, but some on here are almost wishing that america goes to **** just to prove a point that he is a dick.

More ICU beds per person than who?
They will do worse because of their complete lack of co-ordination in response.

Yes each state has control but a crisis like this requires federal action and co-ordination. Leadership is needed, trump is attacking governors from various states when he doesn't like what they say. That's hardly a good thing.

ITman88 wrote: »

The US is a federal state and each state has its own governance.

I can’t figure out why Trump is mentioned so much here, he’s fairly irrelevant

You mentioned Trump first and the message above is in reply to my response to your message... why the surprise :rolleyes:

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah, my state is doing a pretty good job so far of flattening the curve and has had restrictions in place for weeks now. Some states have barely any cases. New York is an epicentre and is not representative of the entire country. Even there they are coping OK so far and have put in thousands of extra beds and resources.

New York is doing terribly

Low on PPE, ventilators and staff. It's going to be one of the worst calamities ever to befall the state

Osborne wrote: »

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

You are being dense to be honest. It’s been clarified multiple times

froog wrote: »

solid numbers. hope Big T gets back on the horse soon and we can put this thing to bed.

I hope Holohan makes a full recovery so he's one day able to face an inquiry

Shn99 wrote: »

Education minister still determined to see state exams for students go ahead as normal
https://www.newstalk.com/news/mchugh-state-exams-planned-993123?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585757798

He has to say that. If he said exams may not go ahead, students would just not do a tap and not bother continuing lessons.

Although tbh, I definitely do not see the JC going ahead, but the LC could go ahead in a much more staggered and spaced approach. With no JC students doing exams, their is a lot more spacing, room, but still left with the problem of the SEC staffing centres, social distancing, etc.

THANK YOU GEORGE!

i'd say the angelus is getting record viewing numbers recently.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Jesus Christ and their markets are still carrying on.

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.