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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    are you sure? I think it means there are currently 126 people in ICU.

    they came back and confirmed since the beginning. Don't see the point of a cumulative figure tbh.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,322 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Yes in hospitals but only where there is that likely risk, that's all they do say. Otherwise there's no evidence they don't really confer any great protection.
    There is evidence for protection. Check this study done regarding SARS. "The use of masks was strongly protective" and "Our finding that mask use lowered the risk for disease supports the community’s use of this strategy." An they're not the only studies into the efficacy of masks within the community. There's a load with regard to influenza and how that even within households with one person infected the risks go down for the rest with mask use.
    I don't see their position changing on that at all but by all means get yourself a mask.
    I have a few and a pp3 rated respirator, but it's not come to the latter just yet. Though if I had to take public transport or a taxi, I would 100% wear it. The thing is we all need to be wearing something. If we all are then the risk of droplet transmission will drop right off. Never mind that infected people wearing one won't spread nearly as many droplets onto surfaces, which are a major vector for transmission. It's really a no brainer.
    Where you are on the WHO, I find the CDC to be shambolically embarrassing.
    Agreed 100% and for much the same reasons. Underfunded and slow to act and too sensitive to political influence.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭domrush


    Folks there are not 124 people in the ICU. It is a cumulative figure. It has been done to death in this thread already. See attached for confirmation by HSE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Why is it likely? The US has more ICU beds per person, more ventilators (and the ability to make more) and despite what people who dont live here think, those without insurance WILL be treated.

    Each state is pretty much like it's own country and does not need trump to take action.

    The US is a federal state and each state has its own governance.

    I can’t figure out why Trump is mentioned so much here, he’s fairly irrelevant


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    USA about to hit 200 thousand cases.

    World over 900 thousand cases.

    Almost a million. It's spreading so fast. If that's the confirmed cases, there's way more out there carrying the virus without knowing.

    We can probably be at a million by tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Stheno wrote: »
    Dr. Ronan may be late

    Wont want to make Dr Tony look bad :D

    Where do people watch the HSE briefings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Why007


    Tara mines refuses to close, opening back tomorrow (remove the space after the .com) irishtimes. com/business/energy-and-resources/tara-mines-to-resume-operations-despite-covid-19-risk-1.4217994


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,938 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    USA has now surpassed 200K cases (200,269 and with 4,394 deaths).

    I remember the good old days (....about 2 weeks ago, or so....) when there was less than 100K cases worldwide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    are you sure? I think it means there are currently 126 people in ICU.

    as per worldometer its 103 people critical.

    https://twitter.com/hpscireland/status/1245338278901014529


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    they came back and confirmed since the beginning. Don't see the point of a cumulative figure tbh.

    Its a cumulative figure yes, but as soon as they leave ICU they are removed from this figure no?

    I know its not 126 in a day, but my understanding is its how many are currently there.

    Worldometer gives a figure of 103 critical cases in Ireland as per latest update.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Where do people watch the HSE briefings?

    rte player


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Where do people watch the HSE briefings?

    RTE Player/RTE News Now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    are you sure? I think it means there are currently 126 people in ICU.

    as per worldometer its 103 people critical.


    https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/22be5d-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-1-april/



    HSE clearly states in its data "total number admitted to ICU'
    That can only mean its cumulative.



    From today.

    Hospital statistics

      Total number of cases 2990 Total number hospitalised 834 Total number admitted to ICU 126 Total number of deaths 84 Total number of healthcare workers 752 Number clusters notified 134 Median age 48


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    Where do people watch the HSE briefings?

    Rte News


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭domrush


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Its a cumulative figure yes, but as soon as they leave ICU they are removed from this figure no?

    I know its not 126 in a day, but my understanding is its how many are currently there.

    Worldometer gives a figure of 103 critical cases in Ireland as per latest update.

    No they are not removed from the figure. The worldometer is not a primary source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    domrush wrote: »
    Folks there are not 124 people in the ICU. It is a cumulative figure. It has been done to death in this thread already. See attached for confirmation by HSE
    So why not give the actual live number in ICU ....so it’s 124 minus the number of people who have died ? Surely then if the ICU numbers are from start they can handle what’s currently in ICU units...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,132 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    14 deaths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    10days to 2 weeks to get testing ramped up...... that's a long time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    harr wrote: »
    So why not give the actual live number in ICU ....so it’s 124 minus the number of people who have died ? Surely then if the ICU numbers are from start they can handle what’s currently in ICU units...

    Not necessarily, many of the deaths occurred in nursing homes.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,838 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    A few pages/threads back someone posted a link to a really natty site that allowed you to select the countries you wanted to see on a graph and compare contrast. The graph would move along from day zero with each country. Does anyone remember that site and have a look?

    I'm interested in following Ireland and Denmark's increases and this was a useful tool.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,938 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    harr wrote: »
    So why not give the actual live number in ICU ....so it’s 124 minus the number of people who have died ? Surely then if the ICU numbers are from start they can handle what’s currently in ICU units...

    Makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    harr wrote: »
    So why not give the actual live number in ICU ....so it’s 124 minus the number of people who have died ? Surely then if the ICU numbers are from start they can handle what’s currently in ICU units...

    If the figures are cumulative then it would be less than that again because some would have recovered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,667 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    ITman88 wrote: »
    The US is a federal state and each state has its own governance.

    I can’t figure out why Trump is mentioned so much here, he’s fairly irrelevant

    Yeah, my state is doing a pretty good job so far of flattening the curve and has had restrictions in place for weeks now. Some states have barely any cases. New York is an epicentre and is not representative of the entire country. Even there they are coping OK so far and have put in thousands of extra beds and resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    deaths are 36 hours in arrears


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    domrush wrote: »
    No they are not removed from the figure. The worldometer is not a primary source

    This is positive news then. No member of the public will be any the wiser as to how many are in ICU at any given time so.

    126 cases in ICU with 80+ deaths, can we read between lines then that ICU numbers are not over the 100 mark?


  • Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Almost a million. It's spreading so fast. If that's the confirmed cases, there's way more out there carrying the virus without knowing.

    We can probably be at a million by tomorrow.

    We're passed a million already, given that China and Iran have lied about their figures. China is easily 10 times higher in cases and deaths. As is Iran. Some estimate Iran is at least 20 times worse than official figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ronan is a decent enough sub!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Asked about ICU and doesn't answer it lol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Education minister still determined to see state exams for students go ahead as normal
    https://www.newstalk.com/news/mchugh-state-exams-planned-993123?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585757798


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