CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 05:38PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

212 new cases

Good.

Experts say the deaths will continue at a very high rate for the next 2 weeks - horrible, but the new cases total is the one to watch.

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 05:39PM

14 further deaths; total 85
212 new cases; total 3,447

BanditLuke · 01-04-2020 05:39PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Lower cases but what's the number worth with the reduction in testing?

Absolutely nothing.

The death figures as bad as they are aren't spinning out of control though which as harsh as it sounds is a positive.

DOCARCH · 01-04-2020 05:39PM

1huge1 wrote: »

212 new cases = a 6.6% increase, lowest so far I believe.

Not much point in looking at %'s, positively, when the testing system is in disarray/is so behind.

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 05:40PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Good.

Experts say the deaths will continue at a very high rate for the next 2 weeks - horrible, but the new cases total is the one to watch.

New cases is the one not to watch, it is meaningless with the testing regime that we have.

wadacrack · 01-04-2020 05:40PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Good.

Experts say the deaths will continue at a very high rate for the next 2 weeks - horrible, but the new cases total is the one to watch.

Its due to a lack of testing. ICU and deaths more reflective atm

ricero · 01-04-2020 05:40PM

Jasus 126 people in ICU. Unfortunately there will be many more deaths this week.

Gotta keep positive though.

BLIZZARD7 · 01-04-2020 05:40PM

ITman88 wrote: »

I was making a point about worse case models being incorrect.

No fake news, you must be a trump supporter.

? How did you come to that conclusion?
He has handled this situation extremely badly, The USA will most likely come out of this worse than every other country.

Strazdas · 01-04-2020 05:41PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Its due to a lack of testing. ICU and deaths more reflective atm

One would expect new cases to be dropping though, given the draconian restrictions - the testing is something of a side issue.

domrush · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

ricero wrote: »

Jasus 126 people in ICU. Unfortunately there will be many more deaths this week.

Gotta keep positive though.

When did they say there is 126 people currently in the icu?

SleetAndSnow · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

I personally am ignoring the new case numbers due to the amount of problems with testing at the minute. I am focusing more so on the ICU admissions and new deaths, which seems to be constant enough.

fullstop · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

Lower cases but what's the number worth with the reduction in testing?

Welll, as was mentioned yesterday, they’ve increased the proportion of positive tests from 6% to 15%, so while the testing is less it’s more targeted.

is_that_so · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Not much point in looking at %'s, positively, when the testing system is in disarray/is so behind.

So disappointed then?

cameramonkey · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

is_that_so wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-italy-russia-military-convoy-supplies-useless-pr-stunt-2020-3

unnamed sources said, pity the story is unverifiable.

podgeandrodge · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

New cases is the one not to watch, it is meaningless with the testing regime that we have.

Agree, it presumably meant something until a couple of days ago, but now not worth really paying attention to unfortunately.

ACitizenErased · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

1500 tests a day due to reagent issues worldwide.

wakka12 · 01-04-2020 05:42PM

ITman88 wrote: »

The current deaths from Italy sound insane, but it’s nothing unusual for March in Italy.
62000 deaths in March a number of years ago, when we see the number of deaths from this March we can than accurately see the rise in deaths.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-03-31/italy-s-mild-flu-season-may-solve-mystery-of-coronavirus-deaths

Do you have a link to a source that says there was ever 62,000 deaths in Italy in one month from flu. Because it doesnt sound true. 500,000 people worlwide die from flu in a whole year, and youre saying more than 10% of them died in one month in just Italy one year.
And it is completely unusual for MArch in Italy, otherwise the country would not be on lockdown

This article seems to assume Italy is the only place experiencing a high mortality rate. Spain, the UK, Benelux, NYC all appear to be on similar trajectory if they are not already there. I dont understand why so many people are trying really hard to still compare this to flu, the numbers coming out of Italy, and much of Europe for that matter, are shocking no matter what way you look at it

is_that_so · 01-04-2020 05:43PM

domrush wrote: »

When did they say there is 126 people currently in the icu?

That came out this morning I believe.

bennyl10 · 01-04-2020 05:43PM

ricero wrote: »

Jasus 126 people in ICU. Unfortunately there will be many more deaths this week.

Gotta keep positive though.

That’s since the beginning.
There is not currently 126 people in ICU

GooglePlus · 01-04-2020 05:43PM

fullstop wrote: »

Welll, as was mentioned yesterday, they’ve increased the proportion of positive tests from 6% to 15%, so while the testing is less it’s more targeted.

It seems they're not getting to everyone who even fits the new criteria, so the numbers aren't a great reflection of how things are still.

domrush · 01-04-2020 05:44PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That came out this morning I believe.

There was 124 people admitted in total as of yesterday, there was not 124 people currently in the ICU. This has been confirmed by the HSE

is_that_so · 01-04-2020 05:44PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

unnamed sources said, pity the story is unverifiable.

Most Italian commentary is.

Cork Boy 53 · 01-04-2020 05:44PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Good.

Experts say the deaths will continue at a very high rate for the next 2 weeks - horrible, but the new cases total is the one to watch.

It really isn`t. The figure to watch is new daily deaths /ICU rates.

podgeandrodge · 01-04-2020 05:44PM

Strazdas wrote: »

One would expect new cases to be dropping though, given the draconian restrictions - the testing is something of a side issue.

fullstop wrote: »

Welll, as was mentioned yesterday, they’ve increased the proportion of positive tests from 6% to 15%, so while the testing is less it’s more targeted.

But isn't the problem that if the tests have dropped dramatically, the new cases must also drop, in which case it is no longer possible to secure a positive view from the drop in percentages of new cases as we can't decipher whether it is the more focussed test, or lack of tests?

SusanC10 · 01-04-2020 05:45PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

That’s since the beginning.
There is not currently 126 people in ICU

Was just going to ask this.
If the 126 are currently in ICU or is it the number admitted since this began.

ITman88 · 01-04-2020 05:45PM

wakka12 wrote: »

This article seems to assume Italy is the only place experiencing a high mortality rate. Spain, the UK, Benelux, NYC all appear to be on similar trajectory if they are not already there. I dont understand why so many people are trying really hard to still compare this to flu, the numbers coming out of Italy, and much of Europe for that matter, are shocking no matter what way you look at it

You’re right the numbers are shocking.

And they were shocking for a number of years now.

It’s comparing death rates to the flu, not the virus itself.

The virus is much more potent than the common flu

domrush · 01-04-2020 05:45PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Was just going to ask this.
If the 126 are currently in ICU or is it the number admitted since this began.

It’s since the beginning. This was confirmed by the HSE

Blanco100 · 01-04-2020 05:45PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

That’s since the beginning.
There is not currently 126 people in ICU

are you sure? I think it means there are currently 126 people in ICU.

as per worldometer its 103 people critical.

ceadaoin. · 01-04-2020 05:46PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

? How did you come to that conclusion?
He has handled this situation extremely badly, The USA will most likely come out of this worse than every other country.

Why is it likely? The US has more ICU beds per person, more ventilators (and the ability to make more) and despite what people who dont live here think, those without insurance WILL be treated.

Each state is pretty much like it's own country and does not need trump to take action.

I dont like Trump either, but some on here are almost wishing that america goes to **** just to prove a point that he is a dick.

Beasty · 01-04-2020 05:46PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Good.

Experts say the deaths will continue at a very high rate for the next 2 weeks - horrible, but the new cases total is the one to watch.

Unfortunately it's meaningless without details of how many negative results there were (ie we need to know how many tests in total reflect these figures). If they are processing less because of limited testing kits it's not necessarily "good"

When you overlay projections that we are still a couple of weeks (possibly more) away from hitting the peak we can, unfortunately, expect further increases in those testing positive. That's also ignoring all of those who have it but do not qualify for testing

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