CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

threeball wrote: »

Trump wont say the numbers of predicted deaths on camera, presumably as he doesnt want it used in the future presidential elections.

smart man

LRNM wrote: »

They're wording it to make it sound like that. When infact, EMT's are PHECC registered practitioners with a skillset and medication index quite similar to a paramedics. They're appropriate to deal with the vast majority of calls the ambulance service receives.



They've been given extra training and familiarisation over the past week and have been trained to swab people just like the paramedics have.



The arrangement NAS have put in place is for 1 EMT to staff and ambulance with 1 Paramedic. Rather than having 2 paramedics on an ambulance.

This is more than appropriate.

Fair enough. So Juanito was right and they were being disingenuous when they said that these people weren't qualified?

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

they should have gone for a checkerboard pattern, only sleep in the unpainted squares

What the city that never sleep should have done, is open up the hotels with thousands of beds and let the homeless sleep there -

niallo27 wrote: »

That's life, its **** sometimes. Happens every day.

Exactly.
Just doesn’t make front page news usually, along with lots of other things that can sell an article these past few weeks

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

this is daily new cases from Wikipedia, seems to be holding steady enough, not accelerating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

When I look at that graph, I see complete randomness as a result of bad testing strategy from the get go. Why has it dropped on multiple occasions? I think it is unreliable to focus on case increases and more on casualties of the virus in countries like this.

Gods Gift wrote: »

Trump ain’t getting involved in this.

Hopefully he’s been quietly told to keep his big mouth shut.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump done more than any world leader, yet gets labelled as the guy who did not. But he was the first to shut China out, and then Europe, while we were listening to Leo talking of '' Parades will go ahead'' and flying off to Washington to a dinner that was cancelled. And we all know what Boris did, stuck his head in the sand and said '' o well, what will be will be'' letting the virus take a huge grip before doing a thing.

100 thousand dead, that's the prediction.
All of America is not even in shutdown.
He only stopped flights from Europe over 2 weeks ago.

tom_tarbucket wrote: »

When will the ‘surge’ hit Ireland?

Are we in it right now or hasn’t happened yet?

Mid April is the prediction. They are saying around the 11th or 12th.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Trump done more than any world leader, yet gets labelled as the guy who did not. But he was the first to shut China out, and then Europe, while we were listening to Leo talking of '' Parades will go ahead'' and flying off to Washington to a dinner that was cancelled. And we all know what Boris did, stuck his head in the sand and said '' o well, what will be will be'' letting the virus take a huge grip before doing a thing.

Thought he was gonna get his 15 cases down to 0 very soon. He also suggested he'd reopen the country at easter. Then he asked the governers to praise him or he wouldnt answer their call. Then to top it off he accused the hospitals in New york so sending PPE out the back door because they needed so much.

Ya he's done a great job

fr336 wrote: »

I don't understand how 100 year olds can recover yet 13 year olds with no underlying conditions die?

As its a novel virus peer reviewed studies have been few and far between.

There have been some studies on viral load which look promising, ie the more of the virus you are exposed to the more severe the outcome, but obviously more study needs to be done on this. Some experts talk of two strains, one severe, one mild. Having a strong immune system isn't always a good thing if it causes an immune over reaction. Finally a 100 year old might have no underlying conditions while a 13 year old might have an undiagnosed one.

Much about this virus is a mystery but like the spanish flu it will be studied for decades.

deisedevil wrote: »

There's f-all testing being done. The positive cases mean absolutely nothing. ICU cases are flying up! They actually mean something.

Am I wrong here? Why is anyone still looking at the positive cases in Ireland anymore when no one is even hiding the fact now that there are huge problems with the testing and so little tests are being carried out?

Ignore the positive tests because they are nowhere near, not even anything like, a reflection of the amount of cases we actually have. Just look at ICU and deaths, because they are what they are for all to see.

We don't have the full data, but the numbers that have sadly passed away seem to be mainly quite elderly, so if the virus gets into a nursing home, more than likely a large % of them will need ICU beds and sadly some of them will pass away. So I think looking purely at ICU beds isn't a fair reflection on where are either.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

I did. The word 'overtime' isn't mentioned. Perhaps you should read it again?

if you can't see that it's about overtime you have either no experience or knowledge of unions, or you are a card carrying SIPTU member yourself.